I went there and read a few exerpts from the 2011 NIV posted there, and it was not gender neutral. It still refers to God as He, etc. I have to wonder if the newest version, the gender neutral one, has not been loaded onto that site as yet. It doesn't come out in print until maybe sometime in April, I think. Whenever they bring it out, it will remain an abomination just like it was when they tr...more

I went there and read a few exerpts from the 2011 NIV posted there, and it was not gender neutral. It still refers to God as He, etc. I have to wonder if the newest version, the gender neutral one, has not been loaded onto that site as yet. It doesn't come out in print until maybe sometime in April, I think. Whenever they bring it out, it will remain an abomination just like it was when they tried it several years ago.less

It may not have been a war crime, as in torture, starvation, etc, but it was blatantly stupid, and uncalled for. it is none of America's business if the Libians want to oust this barbarian, and it is none of our business if he tries to keep his kingdom under his thumb. American politicians seem to think it is their duty to run aronld the world, taking charge in every situation, telling countries...more

It may not have been a war crime, as in torture, starvation, etc, but it was blatantly stupid, and uncalled for. it is none of America's business if the Libians want to oust this barbarian, and it is none of our business if he tries to keep his kingdom under his thumb. American politicians seem to think it is their duty to run aronld the world, taking charge in every situation, telling countries what they can and cannot do, as they have made out of order demands on israel to give up land to the Palistoid squatters who have no claim to the land God gave to Abraham and his descendents through Issac, NOT Ishmael in an eternal covenant. This mess in the middle east will not get better until the Lord comes to straighten it all out. Obama is a baffoon to think he can run ove rthere, drop a few bombs, and all will be hunky dorey fine again. Kinda like when Clinton bombetried to bomb a factory over there, and all he managed to do was knock down a tent and hit a camel in the behind.less

lofgrenmark115 Wong again., on multiple fronts..........the seventh 1000 year period is the new millenium in which Jesus will reign over the earth from Jerusalem.. Secondly, the tribulation has not even started, much less will it end on May 21 of this year, which many people have attempted to help you understand. Guess you'll just have to learn the hard way...............

theeviljuan 2 Peter 3: 3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. Sound like something you said???

lof, lof, lof, How much more confused can you get, bro??? It is true that satan has a certain amount og control over many churches today, those that embrace homosexuality, abortion, promiscuity, those who teach prosperity, and have made a false god in a bogus image of Jesus Christ, however, the antichrist is not in charge just yet. There are certian criteria that must first be met, that has not b...more

lof, lof, lof, How much more confused can you get, bro??? It is true that satan has a certain amount og control over many churches today, those that embrace homosexuality, abortion, promiscuity, those who teach prosperity, and have made a false god in a bogus image of Jesus Christ, however, the antichrist is not in charge just yet. There are certian criteria that must first be met, that has not been met thus far. First, Israel has to have at least part of the Temple Mount and have their altar set up and sacrifices underway. This has not happened as yet.less

While Glen Beck makes come good points, usually, and he is politically correct, his "Christian" faith is clearly lacking.....too much of the book of Mornon and not enough of the Hily Bible?? On thins page, however, what i find appaling is che number of people who disagreed with drdiaz24's coment below. Every word he wrote is absolutely correct and Biblically sound. God IS a God of love, grac...more

While Glen Beck makes come good points, usually, and he is politically correct, his "Christian" faith is clearly lacking.....too much of the book of Mornon and not enough of the Hily Bible??

On thins page, however, what i find appaling is che number of people who disagreed with drdiaz24's coment below. Every word he wrote is absolutely correct and Biblically sound. God IS a God of love, grace, forgiveness, but He is also a God of justice, retribution, and vengence. "Vengence in Mine, I will repay, sayeth the Lord"
What we are seeing in the increase of such natural disasters is the beginning of sorrows as taught by Jesus in Matthew 24 as well as in Isaiah, Joel, Daniel, Jeremiah, Revelation, etc. Like it or not, we are in the end days, and soon, the great tribulation will begin. If anyone thinks the disasters happening today are bad, you ain't seen nuthin yet!

And contrary to most church teaching, we will be here for the tribulation, excluding the Bowl judgements which are the only judgements that are the wrath of God.less

writerJerome "I think it is a positive step in the right direction that the new NIV is gender-neutral." You really don't have a clue, do you?

My understanding of the Unitarian Universalist "faith" is that they accept all faiths, or athiesim for that matter. There may be a true Christian or two int he bunch, but 99.9% of them don't KNOW God, and will not be saved unless they come to know Him. Just because they call their buildings "churches" and go sit in pews, does not make them Christians. It makes them a confused group of people wande...more

My understanding of the Unitarian Universalist "faith" is that they accept all faiths, or athiesim for that matter. There may be a true Christian or two int he bunch, but 99.9% of them don't KNOW God, and will not be saved unless they come to know Him. Just because they call their buildings "churches" and go sit in pews, does not make them Christians. It makes them a confused group of people wandering down the wide path that leads to hell, because without Jesus, hell is the only alternative.less

When When Jesus comes, it will be to a world that thinks it is doomed. We will have been in total darkness for a period of months by that time (the judgement of darnkess, for time and space I'll leave it at that) His coming will split the eastern sky with a blinding brightness, and every eye will see this event. There may well be a serious lack of electonic communications at that time, so all th...more

When When Jesus comes, it will be to a world that thinks it is doomed. We will have been in total darkness for a period of months by that time (the judgement of darnkess, for time and space I'll leave it at that) His coming will split the eastern sky with a blinding brightness, and every eye will see this event. There may well be a serious lack of electonic communications at that time, so all the TV sets and radios in the world may be of little use. The Elect will watch with wounderous joy, shouting and worshipping teh King of Kings, but those who don't believe, who have followed the antichrist, will be crawling into holes in the ground, begging for rocks to fall on them to hide them from the wrath of a Holy God.less

Jesus said in matthew 24 that these types of disasters will increase at the end of the age, and they are. We are in the beginnings of sorrows, and it will only get worse before the antichrist takes control.

They tried this blasphemy several years ago, and quickly had to remove it from the shelves because Christians were irate.. Sadly, so many "Christians" have watered down God's Holy word, embraced evils such as homosexuality, abortion, and even Islam, that I look for the newly updated "bible" to be accepted by the heathen "Christians". They are worshiping a god of their own creation, and he is NOT ...more

They tried this blasphemy several years ago, and quickly had to remove it from the shelves because Christians were irate.. Sadly, so many "Christians" have watered down God's Holy word, embraced evils such as homosexuality, abortion, and even Islam, that I look for the newly updated "bible" to be accepted by the heathen "Christians". They are worshiping a god of their own creation, and he is NOT the God of Abraham, issac and Jacob!less

These are the beginning of sorrows described by Jesus in Matthew 24. The fulfilling of end times prophecy.

Well said, Jvernott. I read the whold Left Behind series, because I got involved withthe characters, but also got a bit miffed with each book because of the misleading lies of a 7 year tribulation, and also the pre trib theory line the writters erroneously fomented on millions of trusting people. If these supposedly learned Bible scholars had actually studied the Bible, perhaps they might have had...more

Well said, Jvernott. I read the whold Left Behind series, because I got involved withthe characters, but also got a bit miffed with each book because of the misleading lies of a 7 year tribulation, and also the pre trib theory line the writters erroneously fomented on millions of trusting people. If these supposedly learned Bible scholars had actually studied the Bible, perhaps they might have had a better understanding of the coming events and could have been a true light to millions instead of leading them down the primrose path.

To DavidRousch, I have this to say;
First, I agree that the Left Behind series is a misleading work of false fiction, aimed at scaring people into accepting Jesus so that they could escape the things that are about to come upon the world.. HOWEVER, the 7 year period is from the book of Daniel, not some jesuite priest. It is refered to as the 70th week of Daniel, or the time of Jacob's trouble. the actual great tribulation is the second half of that 7 year period, Daniel gave as "a time, times, and half a time, or 3 1/2 years--42 months. I dont' know where you got that stuff about a jesuite priest coming up with the 7 years, unless it was he who called it the 7 year tribulation, but the time period of 7 years is Biblical, not made up. And as Jvernott said follows the 70th week of years.
It is true that 1 Thes 4:16 speaks of the catching away of the living along with the dead in Christ, but in no place does it give the timing as being before, during or after the tribulation of those days. You must dig deeper to find this information. 2 Thes 2 is clear that we are here when the antichrist takes his seat in the Temple (or on the Mount, anyway), has a stature of himself errected, and claims the he is God at this half way point of the 7 year time of Jacob's trouble. Revelation 20 is clear that the tribulation saints who make it through as those who are marytrd for the Name of Christ are a part of the first resurrection to life, and even Jesus was clear in Matthew 24 that he would come immediately after the trubulation of those days to gather his people to Himself. Ii believe that the rapture and resurrection will take place at the time the two wittnesses are raised from the dead, an djust before God pours our His wrath on those who remain after the saints are removed fromthe earth.less

I see things a bit differently Clover! There is plenty of reason for the church to remain through the tribulation. Jesus is coming back for a pure Bride, not the mess that is the "church" today. Today's church is apostate, full of sin, and embracing such sin as homosexuality, promiscuity, abortion, and on and on. John tells us to come out of these apostate churches in Revelation. In order for u...more

I see things a bit differently Clover! There is plenty of reason for the church to remain through the tribulation. Jesus is coming back for a pure Bride, not the mess that is the "church" today. Today's church is apostate, full of sin, and embracing such sin as homosexuality, promiscuity, abortion, and on and on. John tells us to come out of these apostate churches in Revelation. In order for us to come out of these churches in the tribulation, we must be present!
I Peter 4:16-18 tell us that the church is judged first:
16 Yet if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God in this matter.
17 For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?
18 Now “ If the righteous one is scarcely saved,
Where will the ungodly and the sinner appear?”
Further, scripture states clearly that" in this world you wil have tribulation." Christians in China, Africa and muslim nations are already suffering tribulation. The pre tirbulation rapture is predominately an American or possibly a western thing. It was not taught until the 1800's. Since the resurrection occurs with the rapture, and since the tribulation saints who will die during that time have a part in the resurrestion, it cannot possibly happen before the trib!
Please show the book, chapter and verse in the Bible that clearly and without doubt states that the church is raptured before the tribulation, if you can. I cannot find such a verse in the whole Bible, but there are many that support the post trib rapture.

People like to say, "we're the CHURCH" to support their pre trib teaching, but this proves nothing. We, as children of God are grafted into the Jewish olive tree, thus we are spiritual Jews, the same as those born as Jews, with no differences in how we are treated.

Revelation 20 is crystal clear that the tribulation saints who died for his Names sake as well as those who survive will be a part of the first resurrection. The only other resurrection is to death at the end of the 1000 years reign.

People like to say the church isn't present in the book of Revelation, but I submit to you that it is indeed present. It is refered to as the Saints.

There is a reason that in the letters to the 7 churches, Jesus says "to him who overcomes, I will give a crown..........." we are to overcome the tribulation! To overcome satan's attack, his last hoorah, so to speak!

With a careful study of end times Scriptures from both the Old and New testaments, and being careful to study these things for yourself, casting away previous teachings of men, I believe you will come to a better understanding of these events which are about to come upon all of us.less

I see things a bit differently Clover! There is plenty of reason for the church to remain through the tribulation. Jesus is coming back for a pure Bride, not the mess that is the "church" today. Today's church is apostate, full of sin, and embracing such sin as homosexuality, promiscuity, abortion, and on and on. John tells us to come out of these apostate churches in Revelation. In order for u...more

I see things a bit differently Clover! There is plenty of reason for the church to remain through the tribulation. Jesus is coming back for a pure Bride, not the mess that is the "church" today. Today's church is apostate, full of sin, and embracing such sin as homosexuality, promiscuity, abortion, and on and on. John tells us to come out of these apostate churches in Revelation. In order for us to come out of these churches in the tribulation, we must be present!
I Peter 4:16-18 tell us that the church is judged first:
16 Yet if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God in this matter.
17 For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?
18 Now “ If the righteous one is scarcely saved,
Where will the ungodly and the sinner appear?”
Further, scripture states clearly that" in this world you wil have tribulation." Christians in China, Africa and muslim nations are already suffering tribulation. The pre tirbulation rapture is predominately an American or possibly a western thing. It was not taught until the 1800's. Since the resurrection occurs with the rapture, and since the tribulation saints who will die during that time have a part in the resurrestion, it cannot possibly happen before the trib!
Please show the book, chapter and verse in the Bible that clearly and without doubt states that the church is raptured before the tribulation, if you can. I cannot find such a verse in the whole Bible, but there are many that support the post trib rapture.

People like to say, "we're the CHURCH" to support their pre trib teaching, but this proves nothing. We, as children of God are grafted into the Jewish olive tree, thus we are spiritual Jews, the same as those born as Jews, with no differences in how we are treated.

Revelation 20 is crystal clear that the tribulation saints who died for his Names sake as well as those who survive will be a part of the first resurrection. The only other resurrection is to death at the end of the 1000 years reign.

People like to say the church isn't present in the book of Revelation, but I submit to you that it is indeed present. The apostate church is refered to as the "prostitute of Babylon", but the true Church is refered to as the Saints.

There is a reason that in the letters to the 7 churches, Jesus says "to him who overcomes, I will give a crown..........." we are to overcome the tribulation! To overcome satan's attack, his last hoorah, so to speak!

With a careful study of end times Scriptures from both the Old and New testaments, and being careful to study these things for yourself, casting away previous teachings of men, I believe you will come to a better understanding of these events which are about to come upon all of us.less

to billy861 and any other catholics reading this: Thre is a vast difference between a devout CHRISTIAN and a devout catholic. Devout Christians are devout to Jesus Christ whereas devout catholics are devout to the catholic church and the pope. When an institution places Mary above or equal to Jesus Christ for salvation, when a religious institution blatantly places images in and around their pl...more

to billy861 and any other catholics reading this:
Thre is a vast difference between a devout CHRISTIAN and a devout catholic. Devout Christians are devout to Jesus Christ whereas devout catholics are devout to the catholic church and the pope. When an institution places Mary above or equal to Jesus Christ for salvation, when a religious institution blatantly places images in and around their places of worship, flying in the falce of a Holy GOD who said thou shalt have no graven images, when a religious institution combines paganisim with their brand of Christianity, they are NOT true Christians, but an unacceptable to God mixture of paganisim and Christianity.less

IProphet, Believer, Don't you get tired of arguing with imbiciles? They don't really want to know the truth, they are only here to instigate and stir the pot. If there is any hope for them, God wil have to make a change intheir hearts and minds. Untill that happens, it's like having a battle of witts with those who are completely unarmed.

Is that all ya got, Adam??

With today's technology, the mark will most likely be a computer implant chip, like they are already putting in pets and race horses. You are right though issac Newton, that those who won't take a stand for Him, and those who are in some of these "churches" who accept homosexuality, abortion, and every other ungodly abomination coming along, even Islam, have alread marked themselves as followe...more

With today's technology, the mark will most likely be a computer implant chip, like they are already putting in pets and race horses.

You are right though issac Newton, that those who won't take a stand for Him, and those who are in some of these "churches" who accept homosexuality, abortion, and every other ungodly abomination coming along, even Islam, have alread marked themselves as followers of a false Jesus.less

Who ever disagreed with lpepper is obviously NOt a Christian. How could anyone disagree with the Words of Jesus? Can't stand the heat? get out of the kitchen. Can't stand the heat? It's hotter where you are going if you don't accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior.