rolln4him: you didn't answer my question. Which interpretation of religion do you want to impose upon all others in America? Bhuddist, Hinduism, Judaism, Taoism, Confucsionism, Lutheran, Protestant, Catholic, Greek Orthodox, Methodist, Episcipalean, Baptist, Evangelical, and this list goes on and on and on... So, you honestly believe it is in the best interest of the United States of...more

rolln4him:

you didn't answer my question. Which interpretation of religion do you want to impose upon all others in America?

Bhuddist, Hinduism, Judaism, Taoism, Confucsionism, Lutheran, Protestant, Catholic, Greek Orthodox, Methodist, Episcipalean, Baptist, Evangelical, and this list goes on and on and on...

So, you honestly believe it is in the best interest of the United States of America to confirm its laws to the law of one of these religions?

Well, why don't you choose which religion you wish to overrule everyone else's rights? Which one is it?less

Hi GreatNW; I think we agree! We both have a disdain for lawyers. We also believe that its in the best interest of society to allow same-sex consenting adults to form the same type of relationships as straight ones. If I am interpreting you right, the concern you have is the changing of traditions. But I fail to see how if two same-sex persons get married, how does that is any way diminis...more

Hi GreatNW;

I think we agree! We both have a disdain for lawyers. We also believe that its in the best interest of society to allow same-sex consenting adults to form the same type of relationships as straight ones.

If I am interpreting you right, the concern you have is the changing of traditions. But I fail to see how if two same-sex persons get married, how does that is any way diminish your traditions? You can continue to have the same wedding that you always dreamed of.

Who here can tell me that their own marriage will be threatened and likely result in divorce as a result of implementation of California implementing same-sex marriage?

Show me causality of harm that same-sex marriage will cause your own marriage?less

Hi Rollin4Him: I thought 80% of Catholic priests were pedophiles? hehehe Obviously my statistic is just as foolish as yours. Hi mathetis: I agree with you that smoking causes harm to individuals resulting in lung disease and cancer. But how does your analogy correlate to gays? Especially consider the position which all christians should embrace: the acceptance of monogamous, loving same-...more

Hi Rollin4Him: I thought 80% of Catholic priests were pedophiles? hehehe Obviously my statistic is just as foolish as yours.

Hi mathetis: I agree with you that smoking causes harm to individuals resulting in lung disease and cancer. But how does your analogy correlate to gays? Especially consider the position which all christians should embrace: the acceptance of monogamous, loving same-sex relationships is just as healthy as straight relationships.

Do you refer to STDs, mathetis? If so, broaden your net! STDs can be prevented by monogamous relationships. That is exactly why I advocate christians to embrace m9onogamy. Two same-sex persons who are chaste amongst themselves do not contribute to spread of STDs. That is one reason why same-sex marriage benefits society.

Rollin4him:
Here is the tricky path you go down when you legislate your own favor of religion. Let's ask a simply question. How many different flavors of religion are there? Bhuddist, Hinduism, Judaism, Taoism, Confucsionism, and the list goes on almost indefinitely. Especially when you look at the flavors of religions for those who believe in Christ. Oh my! Lutheran, Protestant, Catholic, Greek Orthodox, Methodist, Episcipalean, Baptist, Evangelical, and this list goes on and on and on...

So, you honestly believe it is in the best interest of the United States of America to confirm its laws to the law of one of these religions?

Well, why don't you choose which religion you wish to overrule everyone else's rights? Which one is it?less

Homophobia (from Greek homós: one and the same; phóbos: fear, phobia) is a term used to describe irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuals. It can also mean "irrational fear or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals".

Obviously there is no reason to stand up against gays. To stand up against gays is a form a discrimination. Gays represent a minority in the country. The greatest estimates are that 10% of the population is gay. That number is highly suspect, and recent census data which may be underreported suggests that approximately 3% of the population is gay. So, what is all the fuss about? If one acc...more

Obviously there is no reason to stand up against gays. To stand up against gays is a form a discrimination. Gays represent a minority in the country. The greatest estimates are that 10% of the population is gay. That number is highly suspect, and recent census data which may be underreported suggests that approximately 3% of the population is gay.

So, what is all the fuss about? If one accepts the premise that America is a free country, why should one be against a group of individuals pursuing their happiness as a gay committed loving couple?

Since 2003 when the U.S. Supreme Court overruled anti-sodomy laws in Lawrence vs Texas, laws that forbade same-sex relationships became unconstitutional. As a result, homosexuality cannot be made illegal.

The rationale person then must question, what should America do with homosexuality now that t no longer can be made illegal.

Put another way, homosexuality in America is here to stay. Like it or not. So, what should we do with homosexuals? I encourage all Christians to encourage gay marriage. Why? Because gay marriage is in the best interest of society.

Ask yourself, if gays are to be tolerated in America, should we encourage gays to embrace monogamy with a loving, caring same-sex life partner? Or should we banish gays into the shadows of society, not accepting them for who they are?

It is in the best interest of society to encourage gays to embrace monogamy and choose a same-sex life partner.less

Women's suffrage has been granted at various times in various countries throughout the world. In many countries women's suffrage was granted before universal suffrage, so women (and men) from certain races and social classes were still unable to vote. In medieval France and several other European countries, voting for city and town assemblies and meetings was open to the heads of hous...more

Women's suffrage has been granted at various times in various countries throughout the world. In many countries women's suffrage was granted before universal suffrage, so women (and men) from certain races and social classes were still unable to vote.

In medieval France and several other European countries, voting for city and town assemblies and meetings was open to the heads of households, regardless of sex. Women's suffrage was granted by the Corsican Republic of 1755 whose Constitution stipulated a national representative assembly elected by all inhabitants over the age of 25, both women (if unmarried or widowed) and men.

HerZer14 - your viewpoints put women's right abck thousands of years, If your views were law, women wouldn't have the right to vote, wouldn't be able to travel alone without a male relative escorting them, and wouldn't be able to drive.

mmmmm... Are you sure you aren't Muslim? Your faith sounds scarily similar to Sharia Law!less

Homophobia (from Greek homós: one and the same; phóbos: fear, phobia) is a term used to describe irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuals. It can also mean "irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals".

Homophobia (from Greek homós: one and the same; phóbos: fear, phobia) is a term used to describe irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuals. It can also mean "irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals". Homophobic is the adjective form of this term used to describe the qualities of these characteristi...more

Homophobia (from Greek homós: one and the same; phóbos: fear, phobia) is a term used to describe irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuals. It can also mean "irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals". Homophobic is the adjective form of this term used to describe the qualities of these characteristics while homophobe is the noun form given as a title to individuals with homophobic characteristics.

The usage of the word homophobia in its modern form is controversial as it may be used pejoratively against those with differing debatable value positions.less

Hi GreatNW... you are funny... :-) Why is it necessary to stand up against gays?

Dr. Richard Land's condemnations kinda remind me of Ted Haggard bashing the gays... Why is it the most homophobic zealots are the ones who 5 years later end up outed by gay prostitutes and bad drug deals? Should Dr. Land say the 5th horseman is homophobic preachers who secretly are gay themselves??? Kinda fits....

God has truly blessed Gene Robinson and Mark Andrew! What is LOVE? Love is evidence of a public ceremony of two individuals committing to love, honor, and charish the other. God is present with Gene and Mark. May their LOVE for each other continue to grow strong and receive the blessings from those who support the sanctity of commitment. Who here can stand against two individuals committi...more

God has truly blessed Gene Robinson and Mark Andrew! What is LOVE? Love is evidence of a public ceremony of two individuals committing to love, honor, and charish the other.

God is present with Gene and Mark. May their LOVE for each other continue to grow strong and receive the blessings from those who support the sanctity of commitment.

Who here can stand against two individuals committing to each other? For love is the greatest gift God has given us. I am estatic that America is waking up and endorsing same-sex unions.

Thank you America! This is truly a great country! Thank you Evangelicals! For your commitment to love and equality for all to commit to each other shows your true character.less

I wonder if S. Michael Craven is associated with the Ex-Gay movement? Usually those who scream loudest against homosexuality have themselves the greatest internal temptation. This explains why Anti-Gays are so obsessed with gay sex. Its always on their minds! Now, let's examine the premise of this Anti-Gay paper. Same-sex marriages will influence straight marriages to fall part. I thi...more

I wonder if S. Michael Craven is associated with the Ex-Gay movement? Usually those who scream loudest against homosexuality have themselves the greatest internal temptation. This explains why Anti-Gays are so obsessed with gay sex. Its always on their minds!

Now, let's examine the premise of this Anti-Gay paper. Same-sex marriages will influence straight marriages to fall part. I think that is it.

How does love between two same-sex individuals lessen the love and commitment of anyone else? Will S. Michael Craven be temped to partake in homosexual yearnings because he sees same-sex unions sanctioned by the state?

The premise is faulty also because gay marriage would only create stability for monagomy. Christians including S. Michael Craven should actively embrance same-sex unions which strengthen the love and committment of two people who committ to each other through love and caring for the other.

Love is a beautiful thing! Same-sex marriage now opens up the institution of marriage to gays and lesbians throughout California starting this Monday.

God bless America. And God bless love. No matter whether its hetero or homo! Love is love, and love is here to stay.less

Help me understand what the fuss is all about. How is it that two gay men who obviously love each other and want to share the rest of their lives together forming a family and raising children, how does that harm society? What are we defending? If marriage is sacred, then lets offer it to everyone who charishes monagomy and wish to love each other. America, wake up! Since the U.S. Supreme Court ru...more

Help me understand what the fuss is all about. How is it that two gay men who obviously love each other and want to share the rest of their lives together forming a family and raising children, how does that harm society? What are we defending? If marriage is sacred, then lets offer it to everyone who charishes monagomy and wish to love each other. America, wake up! Since the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2003's historic Lawrence vs Texas case to make anti-gay sodomy laws unconstitutional, gays like it or not have earned the right to have a seat at the table. Homosexuality is no longer illegal in the U.S.A. It is a fact that must be dealt with, like it or not. Now, the rational human being who favors stability over chaos, will ask: what is the best way to integrate homosexuals into society? Afterall, we can't ban them. We can't make their behavior illegal. Don't you see its a losing battle to fight monogamy for homosexuals. Gay marriage is the right thing for America because it is what is best for society. Society doesn't benefit by banishing homosexuals to the shadows. Society benefits by welcoming gays and lesbians into the mainstream fabric of our culture. American has always been a melting pot. Whether it was the Irish, the Germans, the Polish, or Indians, Pakistanis, Nigerians, or now the Gays. We welcome. We integrate. And you know what, or society becomes stronger, and better for it. I urge all Christians to reconsider their views on Gay Marriage. Welcome stability of two people who love each other and want to commit the rest of their lives together. Welcome the fact that gay couples can raise children just as well as anyone else. And that a family built on love will serve society well. Finally, admit that Gays can in fact love each other. To state that homosexuality is all about sex, focuses incorrectly that these couples are unable to love, charish, and honor each other. Grow up America. These are adults who love each other. Its time that we put our money where our faith is, and support the right for their love to be counted as equal to anyone elses.less

Which countries allow gays to openly serve in the military? Australia, Canada, United Kingdom, Israel, Switzerland among many. In fact, of the 25 countries that participate militarily in NATO, 20 countries allow homosexuals to serve openly in the military. Of the 5 U.N. Permanent Security Members, two countries (France and UK) allow homosexuals to openly serve. Interestingly enough, countries ...more

Which countries allow gays to openly serve in the military? Australia, Canada, United Kingdom, Israel, Switzerland among many. In fact, of the 25 countries that participate militarily in NATO, 20 countries allow homosexuals to serve openly in the military.

Of the 5 U.N. Permanent Security Members, two countries (France and UK) allow homosexuals to openly serve. Interestingly enough, countries which explicitly prohibit gays from openly serving in the military include Cuba, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Yemen and Venezuala.

The US and Russia have Don't Ask Don;t Tell, but this policy will likely be eliminated in the U.S.
In fact a Pew Research Public Opinion poll in 2006 showed that 60% of Americans favored allowing gays to openly serve in the military, 31% opposed.

The Military Readiness Act introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives would enhance the readiness of the U.S. Military by replacing the Don't Ask Policy with a policy of nondiscrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.less

Which countries allow gays to openly serve in the military? Australia, Canada, United Kingdom, Israel, Switzerland among many. In fact, of the 25 countries that participate militarily in NATO, 20 countries allow homosexuals to serve openly in the military. Of the 5 U.N. Permanent Security Members, two countries (France and UK) allow homosexuals to openly serve. Interestingly enough, countries ...more

Which countries allow gays to openly serve in the military? Australia, Canada, United Kingdom, Israel, Switzerland among many. In fact, of the 25 countries that participate militarily in NATO, 20 countries allow homosexuals to serve openly in the military.

Of the 5 U.N. Permanent Security Members, two countries (France and UK) allow homosexuals to openly serve. Interestingly enough, countries which explicitly prohibit gays from openly serving in the military include Cuba, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Yemen and Venezuala.

The US and Russia have Don't Ask Don;t Tell, but this policy will likely be eliminated in the U.S.
In fact a Pew Research Public Opinion poll in 2006 showed that 60% of Americans favored allowing gays to openly serve in the military, 31% opposed.

The Military Readiness Act introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives would enhance the readiness of the U.S. Military by replacing the Don't Ask Policy with a policy of nondiscrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.less

Which countries allow gays to openly serve in the military? Australia, Canada, United Kingdom, Israel, Switzerland among many. In fact, of the 25 countries that participate militarily in NATO, 20 countries allow homosexuals to serve openly in the military. Of the 5 U.N. Permanent Security Members, two countries (France and UK) allow homosexuals to openly serve. Interestingly enough, countr...more

Which countries allow gays to openly serve in the military? Australia, Canada, United Kingdom, Israel, Switzerland among many. In fact, of the 25 countries that participate militarily in NATO, 20 countries allow homosexuals to serve openly in the military.

Of the 5 U.N. Permanent Security Members, two countries (France and UK) allow homosexuals to openly serve. Interestingly enough, countries which explicitly prohibit gays from openly serving in the military include Cuba, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Yemen and Venezuala.

The US and Russia have Don't Ask Don;t Tell, but this policy will likely be eliminated in the U.S.
In fact a Pew Research Public Opinion poll in 2006 showed that 60% of Americans favored allowing gays to openly serve in the military, 31% opposed.

The Military Readiness Act introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives would enhance the readiness of the U.S. Military by replacing the Don't Ask Policy with a policy of nondiscrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.less

The following is a list of all the countries, states and jurisdictions that recognize same sex marriages, civil unions and partnerships. The list discredits Seedplanter's claim that no civilization or culture in the history of humankind has ever given equal status to homosexual unions. Legal recognition of Same-sex marriage - Belgium -Canada -Netherlands -South Africa -...more

The following is a list of all the countries, states and jurisdictions that recognize same sex marriages, civil unions and partnerships. The list discredits Seedplanter's claim that no civilization or culture in the history of humankind has ever given equal status to homosexual unions.

Legal recognition of Same-sex marriage
- Belgium -Canada -Netherlands -South Africa -Spain

Recognized in some regions
- United States (MA, CA eff. 2008-6-16 at 5:01 p.m.)

Foreign marriages recognized
-Aruba -Israel -Netherlands Antilles -United States (NM, NY, RI)

Civil unions and registered partnerships
- Andorra -Czech Republic -Denmark -Finland -France -Germany -Hungary (eff. 2009-1-1) -Iceland -Luxembourg -New Zealand -Norway -Slovenia -Sweden -Switzerland -United Kingdom -Uruguay

Recognized in some regions
- Argentina (C, R, VCP) -Australia (TAS, SA, ACT, VIC eff. 2008-12-1) -Brazil (RS) -Canada (QC) -Mexico (Coah., DF) -United States (CA, CT, DC, HI, ME, NH, NJ, OR, VT, WA)

Wow! Look how many countries, states and jurisdiction support treating gays and lesbians who love each other with legal recognition of their love!

OK nay-sayers, when are you going to get off your hate-train, and get on board with the love that two same-sex persons can express for each other? Open your hearts! Welcome love into your souls!less

Religion has an opportunity to turn the page here. Lets focus our energy on welcoming all of God's children, as they are, into our family. Half of America no longer views homosexuality as a sin. So, let's move on. Why do we need to insist on having an enemy to demonize? If Evangelicals need a boogeyman to unite its base, lets pick something aside from gays. How about evangelicals p...more

Religion has an opportunity to turn the page here. Lets focus our energy on welcoming all of God's children, as they are, into our family. Half of America no longer views homosexuality as a sin. So, let's move on. Why do we need to insist on having an enemy to demonize? If Evangelicals need a boogeyman to unite its base, lets pick something aside from gays. How about evangelicals put their demonization against global warming? Afterall, if they quit complaining about gays, think of the reduction of all that hot air!less

Let's look at the underlying premise of this article. Fear, fear, and more fear. Honestly, I am surprised that the author didn't try to scare Christian with more horror stories of what's next. Trying to equate gay marriage with polygamy misses the boat. Help me understand what the fuss is all about. How is it that two gay men who obviously love each other and want to share the r...more

Let's look at the underlying premise of this article. Fear, fear, and more fear. Honestly, I am surprised that the author didn't try to scare Christian with more horror stories of what's next. Trying to equate gay marriage with polygamy misses the boat. Help me understand what the fuss is all about. How is it that two gay men who obviously love each other and want to share the rest of their lives together forming a family and raising children, how does that harm society? What are we defending? If marriage is sacred, then lets offer it to everyone who charishes monagomy and wish to love each other. America, wake up! Since the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2003's historic Lawrence vs Texas case to make anti-gay sodomy laws unconstitutional, gays like it or not have earned the right to have a seat at the table. Homosexuality is no longer illegal in the U.S.A. It is a fact that must be dealt with, like it or not. Now, the rational human being who favors stability over chaos, will ask: what is the best way to integrate homosexuals into society? Afterall, we can't ban them. We can't make their behavior illegal. Don't you see its a losing battle to fight monogamy for homosexuals. Gay marriage is the right thing for America because it is what is best for society. Society doesn't benefit by banishing homosexuals to the shadows. Society benefits by welcoming gays and lesbians into the mainstream fabric of our culture. American has always been a melting pot. Whether it was the Irish, the Germans, the Polish, or Indians, Pakistanis, Nigerians, or now the Gays. We welcome. We integrate. And you know what, or society becomes stronger, and better for it. I urge all Christians to reconsider their views on Gay Marriage. Welcome stability of two people who love each other and want to commit the rest of their lives together. Welcome the fact that gay couples can raise children just as well as anyone else. And that a family built on love will serve society well. Finally, admit that Gays can in fact love each other. To state that homosexuality is all about sex, focuses incorrectly that these couples are unable to love, charish, and honor each other. Grow up America. These are adults who love each other. Its time that we put our money where our faith is, and support the right for their love to be counted as equal to anyone elses.less

Help me understand what the fuss is all about. How is it that two gay men who obviously love each other and want to share the rest of their lives together forming a family and raising children, how does that harm society? What are we defending? If marriage is sacred, then lets offer it to everyone who charishes monagomy and wish to love each other. America, wake up! Since the U.S. Supreme Cou...more

Help me understand what the fuss is all about. How is it that two gay men who obviously love each other and want to share the rest of their lives together forming a family and raising children, how does that harm society? What are we defending? If marriage is sacred, then lets offer it to everyone who charishes monagomy and wish to love each other. America, wake up! Since the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2003's historic Lawrence vs Texas case to make anti-gay sodomy laws unconstitutional, gays like it or not have earned the right to have a seat at the table. Homosexuality is no longer illegal in the U.S.A. It is a fact that must be dealt with, like it or not. Now, the rational human being who favors stability over chaos, will ask: what is the best way to integrate homosexuals into society? Afterall, we can't ban them. We can't make their behavior illegal. Don't you see its a losing battle to fight monogamy for homosexuals. Gay marriage is the right thing for America because it is what is best for society. Society doesn't benefit by banishing homosexuals to the shadows. Society benefits by welcoming gays and lesbians into the mainstream fabric of our culture. American has always been a melting pot. Whether it was the Irish, the Germans, the Polish, or Indians, Pakistanis, Nigerians, or now the Gays. We welcome. We integrate. And you know what, or society becomes stronger, and better for it. I urge all Christians to reconsider their views on Gay Marriage. Welcome stability of two people who love each other and want to commit the rest of their lives together. Welcome the fact that gay couples can raise children just as well as anyone else. And that a family built on love will serve society well. Finally, admit that Gays can in fact love each other. To state that homosexuality is all about sex, focuses incorrectly that these couples are unable to love, charish, and honor each other. Grow up America. These are adults who love each other. Its time that we put our money where our faith is, and support the right for their love to be counted as equal to anyone elses.less