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Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. (JN 8:32)
no worries..i am just studying about this situation even now..the solution appears to be in Romans 14:1...this says we can agree to disagree as long as we proclaim Christ and Him crucified ..but if one does not have faith or does not believe in The Word..then do not receive them...or do not interact with them..an example would be the muslims..they do not believe in our God only theirs..one of us going to get a big surprise very soon..our orders from The Word of God says do not receive them, so we do not argue with or interact anything other than basic salvation with love..
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Romans 14:1
clearly states that those believers who are weak in faith are to be received and nourished..but those who dispute the doctrine of Jesus or those who seek only to disrupt are not to be received...
ie: muslems, homosexuals, any non-believer or those who would change The
Word to fit their sin.
believer » Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:49 pm : 0 : 0 Flag
bucket, the Holy Spirit can be present in all places at the same time, but Jesus Christ cannot. So therefore He had to return to the Father so the Father could send the Holy Spirit to indwell every believer and convict the unsaved of their need to be saved.
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uh...God didnt "have to" anything..He is well and able to send His spirit and Jesus in the flesh anywhere anytime...we are talking two different directions..
you are latched on to the "western text" or "american christianity"
and thats fine..i'll see you on the other side
that is the basic concept..and once we deny the flesh and step up to the spiritual level, we can be led by The Spirit of God Almighty...yay
however..
the point was not so obvious, but more of a barometer on the nature of man.
if Jesus would have stayed on earth, His Flesh would have been worshiped ..no doubt..
so He left to make room for our new faith..and The Holy Ghost Himself was introduced by Jesus the Christ..
The Holy Ghost bringing with Him all the promises of God..
once we crucify the flesh
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wow, a thumbs down for saying that Jesus had to leave earth so He wouldnt be worshiped in the flesh.??...lol
im not making this stuff up, people
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if Jesus would have stayed on earth after His resurrection He would have been worshiped in the flesh..
DelightntheLord » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:01 pm : 0 : 1 Flag
>>"i dont know of any teaching concerning a second ark">>
You do confuse me Bucket. You are aware of the Ark of Covenant that Moses made and the Jews carted into the Promised Land (Exodus)? It occupied the first Temple but not the second and it may be unnessary to have to rebuild a 3rd Temple.
The Ark mentioned in Heaven in Rev 11:19 is not clearly revealed in Scripture, so to speculate would be to do so outside of scripture. No mention of how the Ark made by man relocated itself by supernatural act into Heaven nor what purpose it would serve God there. I simply take God at His WORD when He reveals an Ark in Heaven that it is a second one, of his Own creation.
Hopefully soon we shall find out!
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it very clearly says "the ark of The Lord"
no mystery..there
the ark had to be taken up for the same reason that Jesus had to be taken up...
do you know that one.?
im not one to second guess Our Lord..
He says "The Ark of The Lord" is in heaven im pretty sure thats where it is..He is well and able to put it where He wants it..
i dont know of any teaching concerning a second ark
DelightntheLord » Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:25 pm : 3 : 0 Flag
>>"what do you think? :O)">>
I was speaking of the Ark of the Covenant from the Old Testament. I'm unsure of the details of it being lost or hidden but it is still here. From my understanding the Jews need the Ark of the Covenant (or seat of David) in order to complete the New Temple which the Antichrist allows the Jews to rebuild in an upcoming peace treaty between Israel and the nations via the adminstrations of the Antichrist. During the first 3.5 years of Tribulation the Jews will sacrifice to God again but in the latter reign the Antichrist goes into the Temple declaring himself to be God, bringing on the Great Tribulation. I'm doing a study with another sister on Israel and am learning a lot!
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"Rev 11:19 — And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail."
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the ark is clearly in heaven with God Almighty, then i guess He is going to send it down during the time apointed...???
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bucket has not thumbed anyone, except my babee and that was definitely thumbs up
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PS, tell bucket we don't thump down comments here... :D it's not nice, a little hosile.
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.....and tell bucket this because....???
because,
"the dead in Christ will rise first"
the resurrection of the dead will come before we are called up into the air.
using this as a time frame we can narrow it down to the time in a sequence of events.
God, the unspoken sacred name of God sends His angels to do His killing
the harvest is conducted by the head of the field,
He supervises the cutting and gathering of each head,
the cutters will sort, at this time, the wheat from the tares, the tares going to a burn pile, the wheat gathered into standing shocks.
if this is a picture of a parable taught by our Master Instructor, then its angels of doing the sorting
accepthim,
i dont agree with your time line for the dead to rise in the end time
you can bet that we are way close to a rain of fiery meteorites.
Jehovahnissi » Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:34 pm : 1 : 0 Flag
Blessings sister Delight and bro. IAH,
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there is a glorious day coming soon
and ill still be smiling
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God is good
and
quick to hurry to protect His word..
heretic
isnt that a biblical expression
heretic....i dont know...it just seems to fit, right now
justice...yes ,wouldnt that be fun
The Lord says; "Soon"....
yay and amen
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