Transaltion of Mohler's "betrayal of marriage: . . . "Eeew! Icky homosexuals who give me the creepies and who do icky things in bed will now have their relationships recognized in society on the same level as us 'normal' people! Eeew! Eeew! Eeew!" . . .That's pretty much what his statement amounts to.

I realize that many of you conservatives are feeling a bit powerless right now. But there IS something you can do. For those of you who are against same-sex marriage, it's pretty simple - - - DON'T MARRY SOMEONE OF THE SAME SEX. It's not like the president made same-sex mandatory (though some of you are acting as if he did.)

Online: Read my post carefully before you get your claws out. I'm NOT advocating Christian Science over medical treatment. I've been going to the Christian Science church since I was 13 and I've NEVER known any of them who wouldn't take their kid to a doctor.

Sick child - - I had straight for medical professionals. Sick "me" - - pretty much the same thing. I don't pray "for" anything from God. To me, God is not a vending machine. Christian Science, for me, is the recognition that what is truly "real" is spiritual and non-physical. That realization is pretty powerful. It's pretty much your basic Gnosticism. Believer: Life is a journey and I do...more

Sick child - - I had straight for medical professionals. Sick "me" - - pretty much the same thing.

I don't pray "for" anything from God. To me, God is not a vending machine. Christian Science, for me, is the recognition that what is truly "real" is spiritual and non-physical. That realization is pretty powerful. It's pretty much your basic Gnosticism.

Believer: Life is a journey and I don't want to pass up on the goodness of any religion on the way.less

As a follower of Christian Science, I can attest to its healing power. However, it is to be utilized as A means, not the ONLY means of healing. Cases where children die because of their parents' refusal of medical intervention just goes to prove that trouble abounds whenever fundamentalism in any form is practiced.

A generation from now when gay marriage is legal in the U.S., the record of these groups who advocated discrimination will make them look worse than ever. Remember the folks who were screaming at the first black students attending Little Rock High? Remember how ridiculous and vile they appear? That's what these groups will look like.

It's pretty sickening that these people like MacArthur have a problem with citizens rising up for democracy, but are silent about the U.S. invading Iraq and killing thousands of innocent people to do the same thing.

Yeah, look at your control group: "To get these numbers, CDC teams visited bars, dance clubs, and other venues frequented by gay and bisexual men in the 21 cities with the highest number of AIDS cases." . . . That is hardly representative for the entire gay AND LESBIAN population. Would you want a similar study done on heterosexuals and have it be representative of all heterosexuals? Including you...more

Yeah, look at your control group: "To get these numbers, CDC teams visited bars, dance clubs, and other venues frequented by gay and bisexual men in the 21 cities with the highest number of AIDS cases." . . . That is hardly representative for the entire gay AND LESBIAN population. Would you want a similar study done on heterosexuals and have it be representative of all heterosexuals? Including yourself? Just the fact that you're having to tout skewed results in order to make a claim indicates your sad and pathetic desperation.less

Jesus taught that anyone who is divorced cannot get remarried (unless it was because of infidelity). Why don't we ever hear about conservative Christians starting a group for those who are divorced and are struggling to remain single and celibate for the rest of their lives? . . . Well?

Fine, Clover. You want marriage to be according to God's word? Then, no one who is divorced can get remarried (unless it was because of infedelity.) If they do, it's adultery. Why aren't you advocating marriage laws accordingly?

Everhopeful: Adultery is sinful, but it does not define who heterosexual people are, does it? The same-sex acts that Paul refers to in Corinthians and Romans, likewise, do not define who gay people are either.

The reason the Bible doesn't call homosexuality a sin is because the Bible refers to specific same-sex ACTS. One can BE a homosexual and never have had sex. Being gay is state of being -- one to which the Bible never refers. Simple as that.

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But body slamming and engaging in a violent sport is a "Christian" thing to do otherwise?? hide

Frankly, I find it pretty satisfying to know that people like Bishop Harry Jackson will have same-sex married couples in his family tree for generations to come. (Everyone will.)

Just ONCE I'd like to see a heterosexual married couple sue a state, claiming that their marriage had actually been undermined by gays being allowed to marry. They would be laughed out of court, of course, but it would set a really cool precedent.

I just don't understand how someone can sue for "pain and suffering." LIFE is full of pain and suffering; one doesn't get compensated for it. (And when pain and suffering are not occurring, you may as well be pleased.)

The statement in the article included "adoptive parents to all children in the family". Also, DOMA doesn't apply across the board because there are other countries in this world besides the U.S. . . Denying children nurture?? What about all the children languishing in foster care who are the result of heterosexual parents unable or unwilling to raise them? Gay people unselfishly raise them WITHOU...more

The statement in the article included "adoptive parents to all children in the family". Also, DOMA doesn't apply across the board because there are other countries in this world besides the U.S. . . Denying children nurture?? What about all the children languishing in foster care who are the result of heterosexual parents unable or unwilling to raise them? Gay people unselfishly raise them WITHOUT many of the benefits afforded to opposite-sex married couples. Would you really rather that these children languish in foster care and never have a "forever family"?? Take a look at the thousands of kids on this site and tell that to each one of them . . . . http://www.adoptuskids.org/Child/ChildSearch.aspxless

I have to agree that there's probably some validity to the findings in this article. It states that it's best to raise children in a "nuclear family" and goes on to describe a nuclear family as "one or more children living with two parents who are married to one another and are each biological or adoptive parents to all children in the family.” . . . . Well, that would include a lot of families ...more

I have to agree that there's probably some validity to the findings in this article. It states that it's best to raise children in a "nuclear family" and goes on to describe a nuclear family as "one or more children living with two parents who are married to one another and are each biological or adoptive parents to all children in the family.” . . . . Well, that would include a lot of families with same-sex parents these days. After all, several states and several countries allow same-sex marriage. Many more will follow.less

Rlelln: The thing is, if Jesus anonymously appeared today in the U.S. and did the things he did 2000 years ago, the fundamentalist Christians would surely hate and denounce him (as well as Fox News and their ilk.)

The article states: "The bishop welcomed steps outlined by Cameron to root out terrorism on home soil, such as banning preachers of hate from Britain and refusing to fund organizations that promote extremist ideology." . . . True. One should be very wary of ANY sort of extremism or fundamentalism. This includes Christianity as well.