What is so ironic is that a lot of fundamentalist Christians have made the subject of homosexuality a huge focal point in their spirituality. I wonder what their spiritual lives would be like if they completely ignored the subject? Would they be able to do so? Would they even have a spiritual life left?

Bottom Line: Anything that takes the least bit of power away from wealthy, white Protestant men is what they will attack. Big Business no longer being able to run unfettered? = Environmentalism! Taxing the wealthy? = Socialism! Equal rights? = Activist Judges! Face it, rich white Protestant men: This nation is no longer YOU!

"Tebow said he views his time on the field as a platform to minister to boys and girls who look up to football players." The fact that boys and girls look up to football players is what's really sick in this country. It's an incredibly violent sport, uses a HUGE amount of public school tax dollars - - and for what? So that a small group of elitist male athletes can be idolized for all the wrong r...more

"Tebow said he views his time on the field as a platform to minister to boys and girls who look up to football players." The fact that boys and girls look up to football players is what's really sick in this country. It's an incredibly violent sport, uses a HUGE amount of public school tax dollars - - and for what? So that a small group of elitist male athletes can be idolized for all the wrong reasons. If Tebow really wanted to extol Christian values, he'd set a REAL example and quit the sport.less

Mike, every time you drive on a road, that's socialism at work. And do you think we don't live in a socialist economy here? 700 billion a year is collected from taxpayers to fund the military. Don't like socialism? Fine. Let's see how the military does with funding itself.

"Lorence said if judgments in any of these cases decide against DOMA, it will be appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court. If that ever happens, the justices will rule on the side of public policy, the ADF counsel predicted. He noted that for Supreme Court justices to overturn DOMA would be an act of "judicial activism."" Since when have the justices ever let public policy decide a case? They wouldn'...more

"Lorence said if judgments in any of these cases decide against DOMA, it will be appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court. If that ever happens, the justices will rule on the side of public policy, the ADF counsel predicted. He noted that for Supreme Court justices to overturn DOMA would be an act of "judicial activism.""

Since when have the justices ever let public policy decide a case? They wouldn't be "justices" if they did. And when have they NOT been "judicial activists"? (Brown vs. the Board of Education. etc. etc. etc.)

Anyway, by the time this gets to the Supreme Court, "public policy" will be in favor of gay marriage. Then what will Lorence say?less

I cannot imagine what it must be like to live in Colson's head 24 / 7. Obsessive-compulsive disorder perhaps?

Why don't you be brave enough to post links to these studies? These stats were probably taken from a very small, select sampling like gay males in prison or male prostitutes. By the way, in 1980, HIV was completely unknown, so your claims are highly suspect. So, come on -- "man up" and provide links. Otherwise, your misleading "statistics" are actually salacious lies.

So you're saying that heterosexual soldiers haven't the capacity to exercise self control and will go on uncontrolled rampages against gay soldiers, is that it? Is that what you think of our military men?

I keep hearing that allowing gays to serve openly will disrupt unit cohesion, military readiness, etc. But there are over FORTY countries that allow gays to openly serve. Don't you think the Christian fundamentalists could come up with ONE example from these forty countries where this has happened? Well? What's the deal?

Believer: Precisely - - and if you had been showering with women since the age of 12, you would have learned, wery well by then, to keep things under control. By the time you were 19, it would have been no big deal. It would have been in your best interest to make it "no big deal" if you know what I mean. As gay men, we've made it 'no big deal." Trust me.

What's ironic is that heterosexual soldiers have been "asking" and "telling" about their disgusting sexual exploits all they want. The military has been rampant with this sort of behavior for generations. (Entire blocks of houses of prostitution set up in Hawaii to service them in WWII) Where's the outcry from conservative Christians over this? And now, the radical Christians want to keep gays o...more

What's ironic is that heterosexual soldiers have been "asking" and "telling" about their disgusting sexual exploits all they want. The military has been rampant with this sort of behavior for generations. (Entire blocks of houses of prostitution set up in Hawaii to service them in WWII) Where's the outcry from conservative Christians over this?
And now, the radical Christians want to keep gays out of the military because of who they ARE, not what they DO.
The double-standard is ridiculous and abominable.less

Tom and Forever: Okay, let's follow your logic: If you selectively ignored attractive women, then that would make you "not heterosexual?" See how ridiculous your argument is? And yes, behavior is a choice. Being gay is not a choice. There is no behavior involved in who you "are".

Chuck: We gay men have been showering together with straight men all our lives. And you know what? We've become very accustomed to IGNORING YOU. If the thought of another man lusting after your body causes a straight soldier to flee then (1) He's obviously not got what it takes to be in combat (2) Maybe it'll give him a little more respect in the way he lusts after female soldiers.

Believer: Nagasaki, Hiroshima, eighty other Japanese cities that were carpet-bombed, villages in Cambodia, Berlin, Baghdad . . . best possible course of action that can be found. Would you still say that "War is Hell" if your family and loved ones were in those cities? Those cities were filled with loved ones -- hundreds of thousands of them.

How about "Thou Shalt Not Kill."? It would seem that military chaplains who uphold that Christian teaching to the troops who bomb and murder thousands of innocent civilians would have an incredibly difficult time with that. And yet, the conservative Christians are only worried about who a soldier loves rather than the fact that they kill innocent people. Doesn't this seem horrible to anyone else?

It'll be interesting to see how this affects "military readiness" or "unit cohesion". . . . I can just hear the report: "We were about to attack, but one of the platoon members was busy sewing a rainbow flag on his back pack. WE WEREN'T READY."

The bill just passed the senate 65 - 31. Now we can look at your naked bodies in the showers all we want and there's nothing you can do about it! Ha Ha Ha! . . Oh, please, now you're going to be "distracted" and all-of-a sudden run into a grenade. Now, there will be no "unit cohesion" and you'll scatter about, screaming that you're scared of homosexuals and run headlong into enemy fire because of ...more

The bill just passed the senate 65 - 31. Now we can look at your naked bodies in the showers all we want and there's nothing you can do about it! Ha Ha Ha! . . Oh, please, now you're going to be "distracted" and all-of-a sudden run into a grenade. Now, there will be no "unit cohesion" and you'll scatter about, screaming that you're scared of homosexuals and run headlong into enemy fire because of it. Goodness -- you sound more "gay" than any queens I ever saw. . .less

What is truly horrible is that thou U.S. continues to spend an obscene amount on an offensive, rather than protective, military. Half of all our taxes go toward a socialist military budget that comprises more than ALL the world's military budgets combined. Isn't this INSANE? We abhor such military spending in North Korea. Why do we tolerate so much worse spending here in the U.S? When you think ab...more

What is truly horrible is that thou U.S. continues to spend an obscene amount on an offensive, rather than protective, military. Half of all our taxes go toward a socialist military budget that comprises more than ALL the world's military budgets combined. Isn't this INSANE? We abhor such military spending in North Korea. Why do we tolerate so much worse spending here in the U.S? When you think about it, hasn't American patriotism become an insidious, horrible cult? Even though I'm gay and am all for gay rights, the subject of getting equal rights for gays in the military is TINY in comparison to what should be really taking place -- and that is REDUCING the U.S. military by any means possible. Cutting out all gays would be a start. Cutting out all heterosexual men would be the next step. A 90 percent reduction in U.S. armed forces.
The world would be a better place if THAT took place.less

Yes! DO let the U.S. spend $700 billion tax dollars per year - - half our economy and more than all the other world militaries combined -- on a totally socialist-funded organization that espouses blatant discrimination! Oh, yes, DO let us continue on with that! U.S.A! U.S.A!

Okay. When the Gospel of Luke was written, Mary would have been about 80 years old. Does anyone really believe that an 80-year-old Mary came up to Luke and said, "When the angel of the Lord came to me 65 years ago, I replied . . . "My soul magnifies the Lord,and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior;Because He has regarded the lowliness of His handmaid;for behold, henceforth all generations shall ...more

Okay. When the Gospel of Luke was written, Mary would have been about 80 years old. Does anyone really believe that an 80-year-old Mary came up to Luke and said, "When the angel of the Lord came to me 65 years ago, I replied . . .
"My soul magnifies the Lord,and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior;Because He has regarded the lowliness of His handmaid;for behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed;Because He who is mighty has done great things for me,and Holy is His Name . . ."
. . . ." Now, Luke, you write that DOWN and put it in the first chapter of your gospel."
Does anyone really believe this???less