Billy Graham Association Makes 'End Times' a Focus in 2009

churchmouse »

Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:25 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Online4him wrote:

The stated focus of this prophecy is the Messiah, not the antichrist. After the Messiah is (cut off) (referring to Christs death), the text says, (And the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary). In the past, this has been consistently applied to the destruction of Jerusalem and the second temple by Roman armies led by Prince Titus in A.D. 70.

Online4him, If the Messiah is the 'prince that shall come' as you say, that would make you believe also that the "people" (the Romans) belonged to Christ. ??????

Dr. Nofog gave you the best interpretation if you'll pause to consider it carefully:

We know that the "he" of Dan. 9:27 is the Beast, not Messiah, because the nearest *****ANTECEDENT**** is the [Roman] "prince that shall come" vs.26 & it was the [Roman] "people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary [in 70AD]...

(empahsis mine)

Billy Graham Association Makes 'End Times' a Focus in 2009

churchmouse »

Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:12 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

One logical way of looking at the "gap" :

If the last "week" of Daniel 9:26-27 *immediantly follows* the 69th, then the city and the sanctuary *would have been destroyed* WITHIN 7 years after the crucifixion *instead of* almost 40 years LATER in 70ad.

Billy Graham Association Makes 'End Times' a Focus in 2009

churchmouse »

Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:48 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

In response to raptureready who wrote "GOD has always left instructions for his children , the church. there are no instructions after the 3rd book of revelation. would you do that to your children???

First, there is no guarantee that being a Christian will provide immunity to persecution. In fact, we are told to expect it. I Peter 4:12-13 comes to mind here.

"Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you; But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partaker of Christ's sufferings; that , when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy."

We are no different than the Christians that are persecuted today for their faith; like our Brothers and Sisters in North Korea, China, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia and many other countries. Revelation DOES give instruction to His Church in the last of days and is found IN the messages to the 7 churches. They are told to "overcome" and most are told to repent because we have fallen away from the faith.

Billy Graham Association Makes 'End Times' a Focus in 2009

churchmouse »

Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:25 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

In response to Online4Him who wrote:
I dont know . . . many sound biblical commentaries do not toss the last week of the 70th week of Daniel 9 into the future . . . by what biblical basis should we do that?

In the prophecy of the 70 weeks in Daniel 9:24-27, at the end of 69 weeks,time stopped when Jesus entered Jerusalem on Palm Sunday and was crucified. There remaining week wasn't fulfilled "to bring in everlasting righteousness". When the Jews rejected Jesus as their Messiah, a time lapse was necessary for the calling of the Gentiles (Us! Praise the Lord!) At some time in the future, the last "week" would begin again with a "covenant with many" confirmed by the Antichrist himself culminating with "that determined shall be poured upon the desolate" and the Return of Christ.

And like I stated earlier, there's a covenant that matches Daniel 9:27. The ENP was first created in 2004 and it was 'strengthened' for a 7 year period beginning January 1, 2007-December 31,2013 thru an increase of funding and available programs for particiapating countries. For more info on the 'strengthening' do a search on the ENPI and check out the ENP website.

Billy Graham Association Makes 'End Times' a Focus in 2009

churchmouse »

Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:43 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 4

Yes, there ARE signs that the Return of Christ is near. There are clues in the Bible that give insight into the last of days. For instance, the antichrist is supposed to make "a covenant with many" for 7 years, This covenant will mark the beginning of the last 7 years before the Return of Christ. There IS such a covenant in existance today. It's called the European Neighborhood Policy and it was "confirmed" (or "strengthened" ) as Daniel 9:27 states. It fits perfectly: it is with "many", it was "confirmed" for 7 years. It is also associated with a man whose job was created by the 1998 EU Vienna Council decision 666. This man is ALSO the "little horn" of the WEU, a 10 nation military alliance. So you see, the ENP not only fulfills the requirements of Daniel 9:27 thus far, it also was made by the possible Antichrist to come. The ENP came into effect January 1, 2007. The church is not paying attention to it though because it suggests there is no pre-trib rapture and really, nobody likes talking about the elephant in the room.

The signs continue to support that the ENP is the covenant with many. The only way we can know for sure is wait to see if the rest of the prophecy comes true. The prophecy continues to state that the Antichrist will stop the sacrifices "midweek". That means that if the ENP is "it" then we should see the Antichrist stopping the Jewish sacrifices sometime in 2010, most likely around March before Passover.

And get this: the current conflict at Gaza will most likely end with an international "peacekeeping" force potentially fulfilling the prophecy of Luke 21:20.

Think about it: we could be as little as 11 months away from the Great Tribulation. that elephant is getting bigger everyday!