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  • NY Teacher Invites 7th Graders to Same-Sex Ceremony

    discipledokie »
    Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:38 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    Mike
    You misunderstand me. You are pro gay so I expect you to do all you can to defend being gay. I have already explained that an individuals sexual preference and relationship with God is private and personal and I will not place myself as judge and jury over you. I flat don't care if you are gay or not. My problem is with the gay agenda and making sexual preference a public specticle, which I believe infuences our children in a negative way. If this teacher was having a heterosexual marraige, he might have invited the students in his class but I doubt he would have invited the entire 7th grade. I don't believe he invited them as friends, he invited them so that they could see a gay wedding. If you want to be gay then be gay, if you want to have marraige rights, get them, that is your right that me and many of my fellow veterans have fought and died for but don,t try to change the definition of marraige and don't expect the rest of us to tell our children this is normal or acceptable behavier, that is our right.

  • NY Teacher Invites 7th Graders to Same-Sex Ceremony

    discipledokie »
    Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:07 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    mike we've had this conversation before. I don't care if you're gay or not. Obveously the teachers sexual preference and activity has been outed and a toppic of conversation with the kids. This has been my concern all along. Six kids 12 and 13yrs old have told this teacher they are gay and at that age they sould not even consider sex of any kind. The issue of its ok to be gay or its not ok to be gay has influenced the childrens road to maturity. I dont care if you're gay or not, and by the way children understand a heterosexual marraige because most have a mother and a father who are married so the issue of sex does not come into play but a gay marraige is different and causes them to question why and it comes down to sexual preference. Im sorry if this is offensive. I have told you already your relationship with god is between you and God and no one else, and only he can judge your heart and knows your reasons for the things you do and personally I dont care if you're gay or not. I just dont think that sexual preference should be public conversation. Even though it is not your intensions, it is a natural result of your seeking to be the same as a heterosexual couple. Face it, you are not the same as a heterosexual couple. If you want rights then take your rights differently as your relationship is different. You can have equality but you will never be the same. You have to admit that the movement is affecting our children or why would a 12yr old tell someone he is gay? How would they know? How would you like it if someone or some movement was effecting your 12 yr olds growth to maturity and sexual activity. This is not a gay thing or a straight thing it is a child maturity and growth influential thing.

  • NY Teacher Invites 7th Graders to Same-Sex Ceremony

    discipledokie »
    Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:51 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    What is wrong here? Is no one outraged that a teacher is introduceing sexual preference situations and ideals to kids that should not be having sex at all. What does a 12yr old know about sex. The teacher that took the kids to this ceremony should be fired and then charged with indecent proposels to a minor.

  • Clinton to Receive Planned Parenthood's Highest Award

    discipledokie »
    Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:02 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I surely understand what you're saying. but if one sincerely claims Christ as lord then he is Christian, not perfect but a follower of Christ and I am not one to judge his entensions. I guess that would depend on your definition of Christian. Regaurdless, my point is we can't leave it at all or nothing. We must make some kind of progress and the only way to do that is making use of the democratic process and getting done what we can. There are lots of differences of oppinion on when life begins , even in the Christian community, from conception, to 3 days when then egg attaches to the uterine wall, to when the fetus gets a heart beat, to when it gets brain waves, to when it is born. These are all oppinions on the beginning of life but none are legally claimed by anyone and that makes them all just oppinions. It is way past time to give the unborn some kind of legal rights and that means the government by way of the surgen generals office I would guess, needs to establish a point of life, then that life is protected by law.

  • Clinton to Receive Planned Parenthood's Highest Award

    discipledokie »
    Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:56 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I understand that you are surprised that I have said our president is Christian, because of some of the decisions he has made. He has openly claimed so and regularly attends a Christian church with his family. Unless he is intentionally being decietful in his religion, that makes him as much Christian as any of us. You must understand that decisions he might make as the leader of this country are made in the interest of equality for all without religious preference and may not even be in his own belief of how things should be. But even if he doesn't consider life untill born, he is not the only religious person to think so. I personally think that partial birth abortions are murder. You will never convince me that my daughter was any less a person the day before she was born than the day after she was born. But in a country of guarenteed equil rights for all I can not inflict my belief on someone else. Our leaders are in a very difficult position that sometimes causes them to even go against their own beliefs in the name of equil rights and justice for all. As Christians sometimes this is hard to accept but it is still the best thing going. We also have the rights to live our lives the way we want to and there is not another place in the world that gaurentees these rights. This is why we need to pin down the government to state a point of life then that life is protected by law and untill that happens there is no way to stop a non believer from terminating a pregnancy of any length.

  • Clinton to Receive Planned Parenthood's Highest Award

    discipledokie »
    Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:52 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    If I have offended anyone I am sorry, but we live in America. I am a war veteran and have lost friends and brothers for the rights and freedoms we have in this country. The United States is the most Christian country in the world. It erritates me for people to attack our leaders or talk down my country. Our leaders have the difficult job of making law equil for all people regaurdless of race, color or religion. That is not Christian but it is not their job to influence people religiously. That is our job. Regaurdless of freedoms to have an abortion or not to have an abortion or to have Gay marraige or not to have Gay marraige it does not make people do these things. It is our job to spread the word and testamony of Christ and this will change peoples hearts and minds and they will decide it is not the right thing to do. We have become so involved in being right that we have stopped calling our lost brothers and sisters to Christ. Regaurdless of what we believe our belief can not save one person. Salvation comes only through Jesus. Be careful that we do not become as the jews and use the Law to condemn our brothers before they have even started their walk with God. Christianity and the Christian community have become a form of judaism who hold dear to the law. Our salvation comes by grace of our lord that allows us to come to Christ as we are, in whatever sin you might have in hope of righteousness through the teachings of Jesus. It is a gift and God is doing it least anyone have the right to boast in his ability to save himself. I am not real familier on how to submit or create law but i believe it is time to force the medical society to establish a point of life and this will limit most abortions which is better than doing nothing. I think that we can form a civil union law, not for gay people but for all couples who do not share a normal marraige relationship. If we do not then the gay community will eventually get gay marraige past and older people who have agreed to care for each other and have no one else are still not protected. There are many reasons beside being gay to have a type of civil union protection. Once this is done then gays have equil rights and the only thing they can gripe about is changeing descriptions which will no longer be necessary. I will be more than happy to help, in any way I can, the people or person that knows how to get this done.

    Sorry about the rant but I have had enough of hurtful and empty words.

  • Clinton to Receive Planned Parenthood's Highest Award

    discipledokie »
    Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:08 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    I am shocked that so many of my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ are so quick to point fingers and shout names at our countries leaders. I am sure that Pres. Obama is a church going God fearing Christian and raises his children to believe in Christ. There is a wide range of opinions about when life begins and I do agree that abortion is a terrible thing and at some point would have to be considered murder but just because someone disagrees with you on when that is does not mean that they approve of the termination of life. The problem is instead of gripping about it , it is time we made the medical society establish a point of life and use our influence to help them with that decision. Pray for our leaders to hear and understand the will of God and then lead this country toward his will. Less than 2% of the population is Gay and look at the influence they are having. If we will pull together legally we can influence law with over 40% of the population. It is time to stop throwing out meaningless complaints and start figuring out how to pull together and write and promote bills. Who better to make a difference than the moral majority. It is our right as citizens of the United States. I believe it is time to remember that.

  • Study: Jews Less Likely than Christians to 'Switch' Faith Affiliation

    discipledokie »
    Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:08 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    There is only one jewish faith but in Christianity there are many different denominations but all are Christianity so I believe this is a false statement unless Christians are renouncing christianity.

  • Tenn. School Censors 'God' from Prayer Event Posters

    discipledokie »
    Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:59 pm Agree: 8   Disagree: 2

    Yea parents! They are absolutely right. The separation of charch and state does not give the state the right to muzzle christians or infringe on the 1st ammendment right to free speech where ever you might be.

  • Calif. Justices Hear Arguments in Gay Marriage Case

    discipledokie »
    Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:41 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Ronald Cruz said "He wanted the measure overturned. The rallies and marches make it clear we are not taking second class treatment any more." Differences of oppinion on any idea does not change or specify ones class. A person does not deserve special treatment because of differences of oppinion. Lets open the door for special treatment because a person is over weight or how about a color blind person who sees green, red and yellow as brown, lets just do away with those colors. The deffinition of marraige is one man one woman. not 2men or 2 women or 1man and 10 women or anything else that someone might want. If the deffinition of marraige is changed and the gay community is allowed to be married as a man and a woman is, then we still have the problem of protecting the rights of 2 people who are not gay and do not have a marraige relationship to protect and care for each other, as 2 older persons with no one else to care for them and would like to care for each other or a sick person maybe even terminally ill and has no one and would like to give those rights to a life long friend. To be treated as a second class citizen would mean you are deprived of rights. If you desire these rights then lets make a domestic partnership or civil union law and that would give any couple the same rights as marraige without the sexual intent. Why do gay people have to pretend that they are the same as a heterosexual couple. Equil does not mean same. Accept who you are and quit pretending that one of you is the opposite sex. If you want rights then lets work on something that gives you rights and might benefit the community as a whole and stop trying to tare down society. This is not a christian problem. It is a problem with the moral ideals of the majority of citizens in this country, as well as every other country in the world. Get over yourself and lets get on with providing an answer to this long debated problem.

  • Thousands Rally Against Gay Civil Unions in Hawaii

    discipledokie »
    Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:35 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    God made someone gay? God never made anyone gay. Thats like saying God made someone a murderer. Ones experiences of influence and misunderstandings in life makes them the way they are. You are right in stating that it is not necessarily by choice it is the world that one grows up in that forms their beliefs and makes them the way they are, but don't think that it is not sin and that god made you that way and for one to say that the bible does not call homosexuallity sin, he is not only blind but in total denial. Homosexuallity refers to a type of sex. Sex is even part of the word. Homosexual sex is a form of sodomy which is clearly sin in the bible, also it is speciffic about a man laying with a man as he would a woman. Homosexuallity is deffinately sin and until one admits to his sin he can not be saved from it and the reason for wanting to change is because of your love for Jesus and wanting ,not only to obey his will ,but to help his cause and help lead others by example to the Kingdom of God.

  • Thousands Rally Against Gay Civil Unions in Hawaii

    discipledokie »
    Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:30 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    I am a christian and believe in the definition of marraige as one man and one woman, but I do see a need and a justification for a democratic descision for civil unions or domestic partnership of some kind. This is not just a gay issue but there are many couples who have agreed to care for each other for a variety of reasons, an older couple long time friends who have agreed to help take care of each other, one who is sick with no one else to take care of them except a good friend, even a man and a woman who need legal rights for hospitalization and caring for one another but do not have the desire to be in a marraige relationship. This should include those who are gay and those who are not. As long as we do not change the definition of marraige and the church is not required to bless this union as marraige or hold the service for said unions I not only do not see a problem with it but think that it might be our demacratic duty to approve such a law.

  • Gay Couples Apply for Marriage Licenses in Nationwide Protest

    discipledokie »
    Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:47 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    Mike
    One doesn't need to be religious to have an opinion of right and wrong or on what they believe the definition of marraige should be. Homosexuals are aproximately 2% of the population according to the latest polls, so for you to insist on changing the definition of marraige is offending 98% of the population and how dare you compare yourself to those that were segregated. Gay people are not separated into different jobs schools or anything else, your rights are the same as mine. It is just that most people don't agree with your lifestyle and are tired of the gay rights movement telling us what to accept. Here is a prophacy for you. Your relationship is a lie and will end soon and when it does you will know that God is real and that he knows of your sin and wants you to be a witness to the gay community. Not because it ended but because you have been fortold it will end, you will know it is God. This will be my last post on this article because it is getting old.

  • Gay Couples Apply for Marriage Licenses in Nationwide Protest

    discipledokie »
    Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:32 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Mike
    I have already told you you can have a union with your boyfriend. I don't care. You offend me by attacking my religious belief in the sanctification of marraige and what my religion tells me it should be. That belief is protected by law in definition and you want to change that and that is what offends me. Homosexuals are a small group of people and you have no right to force your beliefs on us and change our laws. I am through arguing with you and will pray that someday you will wake up and realize how hurtfull and stubborn you are being.

  • Gay Couples Apply for Marriage Licenses in Nationwide Protest

    discipledokie »
    Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:29 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Mike
    Equality does not mean same. Are women equal and yet we have separate restrooms. Are blacks , whites, mexicans, orientals are they equal and yet they are not the same. We have tried to reason with you and yet you still insist on offending us. We have offered you the same rights, you could have a wedding you can have a spouse, you could have every right we all have without changing the definition of marraige so that you do not offend the rest of us and yet that is not acceptable to you. You and those like you are very selfish and a hurtfull people. You will never get what you want because you think you can force your ways on everyone and dont care who you hurt in the process. I feel sorry for all of you.

  • Gay Couples Apply for Marriage Licenses in Nationwide Protest

    discipledokie »
    Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:14 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    Mike
    Lets drop the soft word (gay) and call it what it is (homosexual)which has everything to do with sex as it is even part of the word. Now I agree with believer that it would be ok to have some sort of domestic partnership laws without infringing on the definition of marraige. this would protect not only gay couples but also the elderly who have comited to care for each other or any other couples who desire these rights but don't qualify by discription or do not wish to be married. Would this be ok with you and the gay comunity? If not, then I would have to assume the agenda is to destroy marraige as we know it.

  • Gay Couples Apply for Marriage Licenses in Nationwide Protest

    discipledokie »
    Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:58 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    Mike
    Ypu must be fairly young since you seem to relate to the word gay and accept the definition of being gay as you just stated. Not myself nor anyone of my generation would consider you a homosexual if you didnt have same gender sexual activity. I remember when gay ment fun loving and happy. This is what happens when you water down the truth by using a less offensive word and changing its meaning. Homosexual has always and still does mean sex with the same gender person. There are a lot of homosexuals who are not in a relationship and just have sex and that is what makes them homosexuals.

  • Gay Couples Apply for Marriage Licenses in Nationwide Protest

    discipledokie »
    Sat Feb 14, 2009 5:43 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Mike,
    I said nothing about your relationship except that your love for that person is not what makes you a homosexual. What makes you a homosexual is having sex with that person of the same gender and no matter how you try to term it the word gay or homosexual refers to a type of sex. Even without describing the actual act it is understood what a homosexual is and why they are called homosexual. Go and live your life the way you want but don't expect the rest of us to agree with you. Join with your partner, call this union anything you want, I don't care, but don't ask the rest of us to change the description of marraige. I believe the consequences would be too great and it is not necessary for you to have what you want.

  • Gay Couples Apply for Marriage Licenses in Nationwide Protest

    discipledokie »
    Sat Feb 14, 2009 1:04 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Mike
    I will try to explain without writing a book so here goes.

    If you are gay then in all reality you are in a small percentage group of people. It is not your love of a fellow human being that makes you gay or is repulsive to those of us who are not gay, neither is it your love that makes you a gay person. the terminology of the word gay which is used to water down the term homosexual defines a type of sexual behavier, which is sodomy. It is this sexual behavier that we believe to be immoral and unexceptable. If you as an individual want to live this lifestyle then it is your business and if you seek a relationship with christ then yours like everyone elses is between you and God and no one else. The problem comes when the gay rights group exploit this behavier to the public and try to force the rest of us to accept it as normal acceptable behavier. As with your right to accept this behavier it is my right to not accept this behavier. Now do you really think it is right to have gay parades which in my belief is promoting immoral and unexceptable sexual activity. These people in these parades were diapers which I don't know what that has to do with the gay moveing and flame as bad or worse than any gay person I have met and by the way alot of us know gay people and have friends or relatives that are gay and we love and care about these people as much as any other freinds or relatives. The problem I have is this. The gay movement is the only sexually oriented group to openly talk about it in public. This is offensive to us and why should you be allowed to offend the majority of the population with your discusting sex practices. Do you think it would be right for a group sex organization to publicly expoit their beliefs or wife swap groups or adultry groups or how about people who have sex with animals. Im sure some of these are offensive to you and you would not appreciate them speeking publicly about it in front of everyone including your children. Now here is the problem with same sex marraige. It is not that we dont want you to have the same rights as everyone else when it comes to a couples legal rights as a couple, but when you seek to change the marraige laws to restate what marraige is you have forced the rest of us to accept your lifestylt and we do not. Call it a civil union or anything you want but leave our discription of marraige alone. If we accept the change in the marraige laws then we are saying we agree and accept homosexuallity as normal and acceptable behavier which we do not. We are also affraid that this would have reprocussions that we also do not want. For instance , schools teaching about gay lifestyles as an acceptable alternitive lifestyle. Books such as king and king being made available to grade school children who should not be thinking of sex at all. I hope this helps you understand our point of view. Your sexual preference like mine is personal and should remain that way.

  • Gay Couples Apply for Marriage Licenses in Nationwide Protest

    discipledokie »
    Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:02 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    I'm really tired of this arguement. If you are Gay then that is your business and no one has the right to condem you any more than they have the right to condem anyone else. Your relationship with God is between you and God alone and he who knows your heart will judge all of us, either by the grace of Christ or by our deeds but do not be think that it is not sin. It is sin just like fornication. There is no way you can even convince yourself that this is normal in the kingdom of heaven and so it is sin. But as I have said before all have sin and fall short of the glory of God and so by deeds none will go to heaven eccept by the grace of christ. The problem I have is with the Gay agenda which is a group trying to force their ways into acceptance. No matter who you are some people will not like you and that is just the way it is. Anyway back to the gay marraige agenda, I believe there is already a law on the books or if not there should be, that will allow a civil union between any two people that gives them the same rights toward each other as a married couple. Why does the organised group of gay people ( which by the way doesn't really represent the gay people as much as their own agendas ) why do they have to infringe on the marraige rights of everyone else. If you are gay and wish to be legally joined to your partner then have your union but don't let any organization use you to motivate their agendas to disrupt the rights of everyone else.

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