Huckabee May Run Again in 2012

dmulholand »

Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:33 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

Slavery has always been wrong in God's eyes. He created us all equal. What rights God gives us should not be taken away from us by any human person. The Declaration of Independence calls these "inalienable rights" because they were given to us by the Creator of the Universe.

Slavery has never been right, but to point out the Pres. Washington was a slave owner and therefore he must be bad, is a flawed argument. There are no slave owners today, so we do not understand the context of what was happening then. I've heard that Pres. Washington treated his slaves well, as did many other slave owners.

However, there were slaves in before Jesus came to earth. To use the argument that because some leader is a slave owner, therefore he is a bad leader, when most of the country owned slaves is like the pot calling the kettle black. They are both black. Sorry for the silly analogy, but it was all I could come up with.

As far as your point about most Americans supporting the separation of church and state, I would have to disagree. Our country is evenly divided at election time Democratic and Republican. The Democrats have a pro-abortion plank to their party platform. The Republicans have a pro-life party platform. That means it is about 50/50 on what we agree on.

I would venture to say that most Christians believe that Separation of Church and state as you understand it is a myth.

I would also venture to say that most scientists who believe in the theories of Darwin's evolution believe in the separation of church and state. I also believe that Stalin, Lenin and Hitler believe in the separation of church and state.

The toothpick of separation of church and state that Thomas Jefferson was referring to is not the same plank or 2 by 4 that you are referring to.

Thomas Jefferson was merely suggesting that the Catholic Church or the King of England would not be in charge of the government. He never meant to insinuate that we would abandon all morality in our legal system. All laws are based on the Ten Commandments and morality. Otherwise, there would be no sense in having laws, because everyone could come up with their own moral code.

Your saying that Huckabee will not be president does not make it so. The only reason he is not still in the running, is because the Republican Party Bosses, rigged "Winner Take All" delegate states, and intimidated the voters into voting for a loser. John McCain couldl be disqualified because of some campaign finance ethics scandal, Hillary Clinton couldl be brought down by another of her husband's sexual scandals, and Barack Obama could be kicked out of the running by his close relationship to some liberal Muslims or his Pastor Jeremiah Wright's anti-American tirades.

If our American election system were fair, there would not be a presumptive nominee already chosen while American citizens still are still waiting in line to go to the polls.

Huckabee May Run Again in 2012

dmulholand »

Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:26 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

Pres. Washington was one of the greatest Presidents we have ever had. He prayed for divine protection for himself and his men. We had a whole country of slave owners, as slavery had not been declared illegal, so the fact that Washington was a slave owners is a moot or irrevelant point.

My point is that most of our Founding Fathers quoted the Bible frequently (almost 1/3 of the time). They went to church regularly, weekly, or more often than that. They even had church services before Senate meetings in the Senate meeting hall. They would never have dreamed of separating Church and State. It took our nation 200 years to come up with something that strange.

Modern Americans think we are so smart that we can drive God out of the public square and marketplace of ideas, but our Founding Fathers would have been afraid that they would lose God's protection in battle. They frequently said that they believed that God protected them because they honored him publicly and especially wanted to teach children in public schools to read by teaching them to recite the Bible.

Ask any Christian school teacher what it was like in the Early American schools and you will get the real truth about what really went on back then. Most public schools hide this information, but it is all in the public record for anyone willing to check it out.

"I have witnessed the great difficulties to which our Union has been exposed, and admired the virtue and intelligence with which they have been surmounted. From the present prosperous and happy state, I derive a gratification which I cannot express. That these blessings may be preserved and perpetuated, will be the object of my fervent and unceasing prayers to the Supreme Ruler of the Universe."
— President James Monroe, in his message to Congress, December 7, 1824

Huckabee May Run Again in 2012

dmulholand »

Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:41 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

If Americans don't want religion in government, they sure would not have liked President George Washington. President Washington would not even allow cursing in his infantry (military) and quoted scripture all the time. He even made his soldiers go to church a lot.