Sweden Becomes 7th Country to Allow Same-Sex Marriage

feetxxxl »

Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:01 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

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we have gone thru this before. not all the prohibitons of themselves in lev were sin, see num 15:32. household chores are not a sin, and doing household chores on sunday is not a sin.

and the directives about slavery being for life to pass on to children is now an intolerable evil.

the transpositon of itim and 1cor in the late 1800's was incorrect.

show me how the words of scripturew say that homosexuality is a sin.

what is the innate essence of homosexuality that would make it come against the fruit of the spirit and the 2nd commandment (the summation of all the law)?

Iowa Court Legalizes Gay Marriage

feetxxxl »

Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:42 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

logic

"What the court should have done was issue a ruling requiring the legislature to clarify what exactly equal protection meant under the Iowa state Constitution. The legislature could have convened and adopted an amendment to the Constitution which specifically defined equal protection either for or against proponents of gay marriage. "

what you are trying to uphold, is that seperate but equal really can exist. i know of no situation. why is it that gender should be a criteria to legally allow another to marry.? how does it change the marriage equation? is marriage determined by physicallity?" your union doesnt involve opposite genders so it is less devote, less committed and needs to be called something else or be recognized differently."

even if unions could be given exactly....... exactly the same benefits it would still be discrimination. it is up to the courts to protect the rights of the minority, not for the majority to dictate them. rights one are not determined by referendum or legislation of another.

Iowa Court Legalizes Gay Marriage

feetxxxl »

Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:30 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

"Also marriage has been traditionally defined since our country's founding."


we were founded by a majority of english settlers who came from a country where for 400 years(since henry the eighth, england has no seperation of church and state) homosexual acts were punished by hanging. the new arrivals, immediately upon settling, created local laws for the same with other punishments. and that is the way it has been up to the present, except for the last 7 years when the us supreme court legalized homosexuality.

that a lot of generational bias, let alone religious, that has been passed down about this issue for the last 400 years.

that is this country's legacy.

Sweden Becomes 7th Country to Allow Same-Sex Marriage

feetxxxl »

Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:05 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

believer

feet, and once again you provide absolutely no biblical support to show that God ordains any other form of marriage or sexual intimacy! And that being the case then God's original and only design for both marriage and sexual intimacy remains the same!

that is because without another regulation to support homosexual marriage, to you that means its not of god.

you chose to put yourself under the law.

Iowa Court Legalizes Gay Marriage

feetxxxl »

Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:48 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

finally a second state supreme cout that has the temerity to to rule according to the rule of law, their state constitution.

it now appears that it is going to be the legal ruling of iowa that influences california's supreme court ruling and not the other way around.

what i find interesting is that in all of this, believers are crediting satan with this ruling and not god. who do they credit for the rulings about segregation?.......... if at the time they were against integration?

Sweden Becomes 7th Country to Allow Same-Sex Marriage

feetxxxl »

Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:15 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

believer

what is stated in the new testament is one possibility(no "only") you have chosen to make it a regulation.

Sweden Becomes 7th Country to Allow Same-Sex Marriage

feetxxxl »

Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:03 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

REEDIT
believer

the point is we no longer have that relationship thru the law as depicited in deut 28, that you attempt to affirm thru your interpretation of design. you are saying that like regulations in the old covenant about eating shellfish and rules about the sabbath, we now under the new covenant, have regulations about design that infers that only heterosexuality, and not homosexuality is of god.

im saying we no longer have a regulation led relationship under the new covenant. that everything that is denoted of god is denoted thru the spirit ONE is given over to as denoted in romans1.

Sweden Becomes 7th Country to Allow Same-Sex Marriage

feetxxxl »

Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:54 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

tp

Point 1: A person is not a "Christian" by my definition but by God's. I didn't invent His Word. He did.

there is no problem with god's word but your invented interpretation of it.

Texas Board Approves New Standards Requiring Critique of Evolution

feetxxxl »

Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:52 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

feelfine

Do modern Christians understand Christianity in the same way they did almost 2000 years ago? The obvious answer is "no" (just read Acts). Our understanding of Christianity changes and science changes too. In a way you're right, science does change but typically our understanding of things gets "tightened" up. That is why folks like Einstein, Darwin, Gallileo, Coepernicus, etc were so revolutionary because they fundamentally changed the way we look at certain aspects of science. For what it's worth, many of the views they overcame were religiously motivated. "


the thing that makes being in christ so magnificent is that it doesnt rely on cosmic awareness but instead just simple faith.

Sweden Becomes 7th Country to Allow Same-Sex Marriage

feetxxxl »

Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:57 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

believer

feet, so show us where God ordains another design for either marriage or sexual intimacy! Until you do which you can't since no such passages exist, God's Word is clear to what His original and only design for marriage and sexual intimacy are!

if it is your desire to be led by the law rather than the spirit so be it.

Hebrews 10:1
[ Christ's Sacrifice Once for All ] The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming...not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship.

Sweden Becomes 7th Country to Allow Same-Sex Marriage

feetxxxl »

Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:26 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

whatever.............one injected "only" is the same as another.

Sweden Becomes 7th Country to Allow Same-Sex Marriage

feetxxxl »

Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:05 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

feet, but what about teachings of God that do not require interpretation but simply require our obedience such as His original and only design for both marriage and sexual intimacy?

you make my point by our injecting your understanding of "only" where there is no "only" except for some thru interpretation.

Sweden Becomes 7th Country to Allow Same-Sex Marriage

feetxxxl »

Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:50 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

tp


then please explain how homosexuality is a sin........out of technicality, legalism. exactly what is the essence of homosexuality that makes it a sin. it cant be by regulation as in deut 28 because paul says we are no longer under the law and no longer have that regulation relationship to god thru the law.

is there a spirit in being homosexuality that comes against the fruit of the spirit? if so what is it?

if it is merely a sin out of design then why all that to do about lust in romans that you stand on.

Sweden Becomes 7th Country to Allow Same-Sex Marriage

feetxxxl »

Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:03 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

simple, we own it as our own interpretation of god's word, rather than our interpretation is god's word.

Sweden Becomes 7th Country to Allow Same-Sex Marriage

feetxxxl »

Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:32 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

tp

God's Word makes it clear on God's stance on homosexuality. And not just homosexuality, but adultery, fornication, murder, envy, gossip, covetousness, et al.


"so you are saying that your intepretation of scripture denoted by your characterizing euphemism reveals god's thoughts on the subject. homosexuality = murder = adultery.

100,000 Atheist Britons Seek 'De-Baptism' from Christianity

feetxxxl »

Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:29 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

1 Corinthians 13:2
If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.


Galatians 5:6
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love.


i would never claim to know all the doings of the holy spirit. but it does appear that when we try to make a law about something we diminish the thing we are trying to uphold, faith in christ.

the understanding the body of christ received about baptism was thru grace. for those who uphold baptism the leading is by the grace of the spirit.

Sweden Becomes 7th Country to Allow Same-Sex Marriage

feetxxxl »

Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:59 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

standards that were determined by regulation, were of the old covenant, as expressed in deut. 28. we no longer have that relationship to the law. because as paul said we are no longer under the law but are under grace. what we are under is what we are led by. grace is a spirit. and as paul said in romans we are led by and serve of the spirit. (john4) christ..... "full of grace and truth". he said "follow me"

Sweden Becomes 7th Country to Allow Same-Sex Marriage

feetxxxl »

Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:45 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

there is only one standard. that is love.........love that is god.

Sweden Becomes 7th Country to Allow Same-Sex Marriage

feetxxxl »

Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:18 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

to all

anyones entitled to believe whatever they chose to without recrimination. but belief is centered around the concept of "i" "i believe this" "i believe that" and remains that way until it is transformed into faith then its center becomes the spirit it shares and trusts and is given over to.

Sweden Becomes 7th Country to Allow Same-Sex Marriage

feetxxxl »

Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:25 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

to all

Slavery in the Bible was not based soley on race. People were not enslaved because of their nationality or the color of their skin. Then slavery was mostly a matter of social status. People sold themselves as slaves to pay their debts or provide for their families. In NT times, sometimes doctors, lawyers, and even politicians were slaves of someone else. Some folks actually chose to be slaves so as to have all their needs provided by their masters.

apart from 1 kings, one of the things that alienated the jews from the rest of the world was the way they treated gentiles. why would one believe that anyone having this reputation, could possibly have been an ideal slave master.

1 Kings 9:20-22

20 All the people left from the Amorites, Hittites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites (these peoples were not Israelites), 21 that is, their descendants remaining in the land, whom the Israelites could not EXTERMINATE, these Solomon conscripted for his SLAVE LABOR FORCE, as it is to this day. 22 But Solomon did not make slaves of any of the Israelites; they were his fighting men, his government officials, his officers, his captains, and the commanders of his chariots and charioteers.

ethnic slavery was not only accepted by the jews for 2 milenium, but the church as well who promoted and condoned it for another 2 milenium.

it was a jesuit priest in charge of evangelizing the indio slaves in south america, who suggested that black slaves be brought in from africa, because the indios made such bad slaves. the indios preferred suicide to slavery.