President Accuses 'Obamacare' Critics of 'Bearing False Witness'

gerbonic »

Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:43 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

MGT2


Here in Texas CHIP is still going pretty strong. I wrote a lengthy letter my local congressman with the suggestions and my concern regarding HR3200. I think there is too much partisanism(sp?) regarding healthcare reform.

To be honest I am satisfied with my healthcare right now. I would support reform that would require insurance to available to those with re-existing conditions, and like I said before those who for whatever reason cannot afford their own insurance can be provided with a subsidy until they get their feet on the ground again. I don't think we need to legally require all people to be insured or pay a penalty, and I do think a government option for all would eventually drive private insurers out of business.

I think the government is there to help people help themselves, and to protect people from being victimized, not to provide for everyones needs through social programs.

I just want you to know that I consider myself down to earth matter of fact kind of person and I am truly concerned regarding the potential reform that is on the table.

Christian Psychologists: Internet Sex Addiction a 'Global Epidemic'

gerbonic »

Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:58 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

HEADLINE from the year 1938; Communist psychologists declare Fundamental Christian beliefs a delusional psychotic disorder and order mass reindoctrination of the public to the enlightened atheist ways.

President Accuses 'Obamacare' Critics of 'Bearing False Witness'

gerbonic »

Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:47 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

MGT2

I really wish you would see the other sides legitimate concerns and not just say we are 100% politically motivated. I have honest opposition to the propoesd reforms. I do not see any facts that show it will substatilly improve our situtaion.

I do not believe its the governments position to enforce moral imperatives. I believe that the government represents the people and there is many ways the governement can encourage this moral imperative without taking it over.

President Accuses 'Obamacare' Critics of 'Bearing False Witness'

gerbonic »

Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:41 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 0

Hohson,

I think you contradict yourself by saying you want civil debate but your opening statement states:
"I find it ironic that the overweight smokers who sit around all day drinking beer, eating Reeses cups, and watching their 16 year old daughter and her baby, the very ones who would benefit the most from health care reform are the same ones who fight so vociferously against it. And why do they do this? Because their dark overlords who care nothing about their health but only about making sure the rich get richer have turned them into unwitting pawns with cries of "socialism," "Nazism" and "marxism." And even though they don't fully understand what these things are, they know they're bad. "

I am staunchly oppsed to HR 3200 although I am in support of healthcare reform. I am not uneducated i have no dark overlord ruling me and I do my best to make informed decisions.


I am very dismayed by HR3200 and the Houses lack or reception to less invaisve options. HR3200 is so radical yet it has no factual substantiation to show that it will be effective. The CBO has has said it will NOT reduce govt. spending. The bill will not overtly help the small busines owner and it will take away choices to choose your insurer in the long run.

If I was in office I would be pushing to expand medicaid and CHIP for all unisured children.

If I was in office I would expand medicaid to the unemployed and their families for a period of time similar to unemployment benefits.

I would enact national tort reform to limit the amount of punitive damages that can be rewarded, thus reducing health care costs.

Born-Again Baseball Star Hamilton 'Embarrassed', 'Hurt' by Relapse

gerbonic »

Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:27 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

I have a question. What do you mean by alcoholism is an illness? I always thought it was a combination of life experiences and psychological wounds that drove people to drink excessively. I am not trying to say it isn't an illness but are you saying its a physiological illness or more like a mental illness like depression?

I think something its that councilling and support groups are needed to recover from, and I think its uneducated for someone to say just stop drinking.

Christian Clergy Rally on Opposite Sides of Gay Marriage Debate

gerbonic »

Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:34 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

"We declare that our faith calls us to affirm marriage equality for loving, same-sex couples,"

"Tash is Aslan... Aslan is Tash. He is Tashlan."

Gay Couple Sues Christian Hotel Owners for Refusing Them Double Room

gerbonic »

Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:09 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

If I have a business and someone does something that I think is wrong, in the united states I have the right to refuse them service. That is the law. Sexual Orientation isn't protected in the way race and gender is. That is the simple truth.

Gay Couple Sues Christian Hotel Owners for Refusing Them Double Room

gerbonic »

Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:07 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

MickeyC

We already established that I am a "fundamentalist" and you are not. There have been many before me. My belief system has nothing to do with Islamic Fundamentalist beliefes. Your comparison is fallacious.

All I mean to say is that someone shouldn't change their beliefs just because someone else disagrees. Also, if I believe something, then I should live by it. If you don't like it, then thats your right, but you don't have the right to impose your moral principles on me.

Even if I go by realative morals, then if homosexulaity is wrong to me, who are you to tell me it should be right to me, they are my beliefs. If we go by realitve morals if the majority of Californians say homosexual marriage is not allowed then why should it be allowed? Who determines that it is right if we go by societal trends?

Gay Couple Sues Christian Hotel Owners for Refusing Them Double Room

gerbonic »

Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:02 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

Chin:
Adam and Eve were created and married before the fall. Their attraction to each other has nothing to do with sin.

I am what people would call a fundamentalist Christian. I believe the Bible is the perfect word of God. I do not believe homosexuality is condonded by God.

If you don't believe the Bible is the perfect word of God then we cannot discuss things on equal terms. My morality is based on what I understand from the Bible and it is eternal and unchanging. If you believe morality is relative to society then in my view you are not a Christian. I am sorry if that offends you. You can believe what you want, just don't yell at me for telling you you are wrong.

Also, we are not disapperaing, sorry to dissappoint anyone. My way of believing is alive and strong.

Why Repent Now if God Will Forgive Anyway

gerbonic »

Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:36 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

I have yet to find even one human living today that lives like Christ wants us to. Some may do better than others but all fall short. I am not perfect, but I am still forgiven. I have problems but God is mercifull.

Atheists Sue to Take 'God' Out of Obama Inauguration

gerbonic »

Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:12 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 3

I would just like everybody to take the time to imagine the life of an atheist from childhood to adulthood and think about all the times things they went through and not having the right guidance they fell off the road and became an atheist. Its like all other sin. God will surely judge them as he is a just God, but he also longs to be reunited with them and he is pained by their loss. The increase in atheism should be a sign to Christians to be more compassionate towards those who don't understand Christianity. Some people speak the "Word of God" but they are not living the word of God. The Pharisees knew the "Word" perfectly yet they were white washed tombs. Think about the lives of the lost and put yourself in their tomb. Sit and imagine what it is like. Put yourself in their shoes the moment they lost their faith and the pain, anger, frustration, and fear that these people went through and live with. The lost who appear here trolling are puffed up with pride, but underneath they are still lost and ultimately their lives are devoid of reason. That is the truth. They come here seeking to assuage their pain by reinforcing to themselves their negative idea of Christian's and of the church in general. They come here to troll and it makes them feel better because they are received with cold condescending "truth tellers" and they say to themselves, “I am right, there is nothing more to Christianity than these cold hearts who do not want me here." I guarantee you this people who cause even the smallest to stumble will be held accountable. You never really know what someone is dealing with in their heart, and self proclaimed atheists are often struggling with belief but are turned off by the Church and often are looking for one person to Love them as Christ would have. That’s my life experience…

Atheists Sue to Take 'God' Out of Obama Inauguration

gerbonic »

Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:00 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

so if all they are doing is coming on here to bash, then they are trolling and you reduce yourself to their level by even responding to them

Atheists Sue to Take 'God' Out of Obama Inauguration

gerbonic »

Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:55 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

To Delight in the Lord:
Its guys like you that made guys like WW aheists. You are very abrasive with him. He isn't a Christian, he doesn't think like a Christian, he has a different paradigm. I am speaking as a Christian who long struggled with atheism and agnosticism. There are legitimate philisophical arguments to atheism. If you really want to argue with an atheist you have to have the guts to take in the atheists philisophy and come out with you Christian beliefs intact. I have walked through that fire and I know its hard, but many here seem to have to care as to what an atheist actually feels in regards to our beloved Christianity. I would say most have suffered at the hands of 'Christians'.

Now you can say, "well i have too", but you are just bragging on yourself. maybe everyones not like you and they decided to become atheists after getting knocked around by so many Christian's.

Seriously... Atheists need love too.

Americans Pass Economic Woes to Churches

gerbonic »

Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:03 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 9

The tithe may not be new testament, but the principal still applies. I give my tithe and then some and God has always come through for me when I am in a pinch. Sometimes I start to think of all the money I would "save" by not giving 10% of my gross earnings then I remember the jokes on me. I wouldn't be saving anything cause I would be missing out on all the things God makes available to me because of my faithfulness with the tithe. This principle works for non-believers and believers alike. i knew of a non-believer who would religiously drop off his tithe every Sunday because he knew it would allow his business to continue prospering.

U.S. Christians Called to Celebrate Christmas Without Bibles

gerbonic »

Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:02 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

I am a Gideon and the Gideons are in over 180 countries and last year the Gideons distributed more that 70 million scriptures world wide. Thats two a second, every second for the entire year. The Gideon's main focus is distributing Bibles and we are experts at this a monetary gift to the Gideon's will go a long way as we mass produce Bibles cheaply, $5.00 will pay for hotel bible and about $1.30 will buy one of those small new testaments that we still give out at schools and prisons. Look for "Gideon Expressions" cards at your church or at the Gideon websit, to purchase scriptures in honor, or in recognition or in memory of someone.

Complaints Prompt Atheist Billboard Removal

gerbonic »

Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:19 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

It seems that the city merely relayed the complaints to the Billboard company who in turn took down the sign. It is in the billboards company best interest to maintain good PR in order to maintain business. I think the city had nothing to do with the dismantling of the sign.

Thats how America works. If you own a business and you make all your customers mad, then soon enough, what do you know, yuo have no more customers and you then you have no more business. It was not wrong for them to take it down, it was wise business tactics.

'No God' Ads to Hit London Buses

gerbonic »

Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:12 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Agentorangex,

Come on now. I thought you were actually serious about having a discussion. You talk about Santa Claus... sounds like spontaneous generation to me or the spontaneous appearance of the universe from nothing.

Fact 1: Many good physicists will tell you that there is no rational, logical way to explain anything prior to the moment of the big bang. Entropy is increasing and it will eventually lead the universe to total state of disorder meaning there was an original starting point. The question about what is prior to that starting point is a question that science fails to address.

Superstring theory and infinite parallel dimensions is the best explanation our modern science can come up with. If you can really believe that infinite parallel dimensions on a fractal is logical then I you got more faith then me.

'No God' Ads to Hit London Buses

gerbonic »

Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:33 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

argentorangex,

In regards to the comparison between Dionysus, Mithras, etc to Jesus. There is enough objective evidence regarding the historicity of Jesus that most objective onlookers would agree that Jesus was a Jewish man who walked the earth approximately 2,000 years ago, and that he was executed by Pontius Pilate.

There are many websites, and some books, that strain to draw comparisons between Osiris, Dionysus, Mithras, etc to Jesus. I would venture to say that most of the comparisons are stretches and those that are not do not threaten the unique status of Jesus.

'No God' Ads to Hit London Buses

gerbonic »

Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:22 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

argentorangex,

"Is what Star is proposing, some 6 million+ species getting crammed onto the Ark, 2 of each no less, sound at all logical considering the magnitude of what we're talking about? Keep in mind this is her definition of 'kind' = species here, as per her exhaustive study of the KJV. "

The answer to whether star is being logical rests on the apriori assupmtions brought into the discussion. If you assume that all things are must be explicable through science, therefore negating the possibility of what I call a miracle, then it is very illogical. If your a apriori assumption allows for something or someone outside of our known nature to interfere with our nature then it is possible to come up with a logical explanation.

'No God' Ads to Hit London Buses

gerbonic »

Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:41 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Argentorangex, regarding you question about the ark how do you define explanation or logical reasoning? Before an explanation can be given you must first qualify what will be accepted as logical or reasonable. Almost all things will regress back to faith in something whether it is the non-existence of those things explicable by the scientific method or whether it be faith in a higher power. Eventually even science fails to explain things, and by that I do not mean that our current science fails explain things, there are just some phenomena that science is incapable of explaining.

So, my request is that you qualify what you consider to be logical.