Californians Pass Gay Marriage Ban

hlerwin »

Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:26 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

Christians have been "indoctrinating" children for centuries with their Christian agenda.

Californians Pass Gay Marriage Ban

hlerwin »

Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:25 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

All these agendae. What about the Christian agenda? Doesn't every group have an agenda? What's so bad about an agenda?

Thousands Pray for Spiritual Revival at TheCall California

hlerwin »

Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:15 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Do gays have the right to vote? The right to eat at any establishment they want? The right to marry the people they love?

No.

Christians Mark Some Victories in Marriage, Abortion Battles

hlerwin »

Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:11 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

How about most of Europe? Japan? SE Asia? India? Not to mention the obvious: Kenya and the rest of Africa. They are all celebrating - especially that that fool Bush is headed out!

Obama will not abandon Israel. But I hope he will not continue to help them finance their terrorism against the Palestinians. Israel treats the Palestinians the way we Anglos treated the native Americans: as sub-humans.

Californians Pass Gay Marriage Ban

hlerwin »

Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:05 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Believer wrote: "The reality is that whether the homosexual community wants to admit it or not a majority of people in our nation do not approve of same-sex marriages/unions at this point in time in the history of our nation."

He is correct. But the children of these voters will not be obsessed about who marries whom. (Call it "backsliding," if you like.)

And African-Americans did vote overwhelmingly against same-sex marriage. They learned bigotry against homosexuals where? In their churches, of course. Obama and his contemporaries have moved beyond this stance. Even Coretta Scott King endorsed equality for gays before she died, a position that would have been very difficult (I expect - but do not know fore sure) for her husband, Dr. King, and his generation.

Does anyone here know how MLK felt about gay rights. I've never read anything about that.

Next President Will Leave 'Indelible' Mark, Says Christian Lawyer

hlerwin »

Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:49 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Gee, nothing slips by you, does it, Prophet?

Thousands Pray for Spiritual Revival at TheCall California

hlerwin »

Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:46 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

You are so right, Prophet. And since so many nigras elected a nigra president, I just don't know what this world is coming to. Those activist judges never should have given the nigra the vote.

Christians Mark Some Victories in Marriage, Abortion Battles

hlerwin »

Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:49 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

Second post -

I agree with two sentiments I read in today's newspaper:

(1)
In Arizona, where same-sex marriage was already against the law, the victory for Proposition 102, which amends the State Constitution, was met with a shrug by some. "I think the country was like, 'Look, you get Obama. Call it a day, and go home,'" said Kyrsten Sinema, a Democratic state representative who led opponents against Proposition 102. "And, frankly, I'll take that, she added.

and

(2)
Today, you can bask in the realization that there are billions of people around the planet who loathed our country last week but are now in awe of its capacity to rise above historic fears.

END QUOTES

I am neither an ethnic minority nor gay, but I am confident that at the end of a 4- or 8-year Obama administration, all American ethnic minorities will be more empowered than ever, and gay people will have the right to marry whomever they wish.

I am a Christian (perhaps not passing the litmus test of many Christian on this Web site), but I know I cannot require all Americans to live by my religion's holy book.

Californians Pass Gay Marriage Ban

hlerwin »

Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:43 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

I agree with two sentiments I read in today's newspaper:

(1)
In Arizona, where same-sex marriage was already against the law, the victory for Proposition 102, which amends the State Constitution, was met with a shrug by some. "I think the country was like, 'Look, you get Obama. Call it a day, and go home,'" said Kyrsten Sinema, a Democratic state representative who led opponents against Proposition 102. "And, frankly, I'll take that, she added.

and

(2)
Today, you can bask in the realization that there are billions of people around the planet who loathed our country last week but are now in awe of its capacity to rise above historic fears.

END QUOTES

I am neither an ethnic minority nor gay, but I am confident that at the end of a 4- or 8-year Obama administration, all American ethnic minorities will be more empowered than ever, and gay people will have the right to marry whomever they wish.

I am a Christian (perhaps not passing the litmus test of many Christian on this Web site), but I know I cannot require all Americans to live by my religion's holy book.

Californians Pass Gay Marriage Ban

hlerwin »

Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:23 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 7

"This is a great day for [straight] marriage," said Prentice.

It's a bad day for basic civil rights.

Christians Respond to Obama as President

hlerwin »

Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:19 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

It the thoughtful, broadly educated and well phrased comments of people like smbga that make this site so salutary.

Next President Will Leave 'Indelible' Mark, Says Christian Lawyer

hlerwin »

Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:14 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

If it takes a spam to show you that "gays and straights" is not "regurgitated acceptance speech," I will do that. Any careful reader is free to skip over my post.

Voters to Face Controversial Moral Issues on State Ballots

hlerwin »

Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:12 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

Some of its founders were Christians. Many were not. This is a secular nation.

Thousands Pray for Spiritual Revival at TheCall California

hlerwin »

Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:10 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

I did hear what slightly over half of the Californians said, Prophet. I guess we should wait and see what the US Supreme Court ultimately decides on Prop 8. It will not stand. One of my grandfathers would have liked to let the majority vote rule forever in Georgia. That way the nigras would still be in their proper place.

Thousands to Pray, Fast Together for California Marriage Protection

hlerwin »

Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:05 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

I disagree, Prophet. Obama is the first president-elect to include gay people in his acceptance speech. That part is clearly NOT regurgitated.

Poll: Opposition to Calif. Gay Marriage Ban Takes 4-Point Lead

hlerwin »

Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:02 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Is this a great day in America, or what? (since believer and I AGREE on something; i.e., your last post.)

Arizona Voters OK Amendment Banning Gay Marriage

hlerwin »

Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:36 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

This Arizona amendment will not stand for long. Nor will a California one - if it should pass today. Our national government, in the interest of every citizen's rights, will not stand for such reactionary measures.

Christians Respond to Obama as President

hlerwin »

Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:34 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 4

"Focus on the Family, the most prominent religious right organization, rejoiced that Obama will not have a 60-seat Democratic Senate that would have allowed him to push forth legislation without serious contention."

I hate to find myself agreeing with that old school marm Dobson, but it is healthy thing that the 60 seats were not obtained. It is dangerous for any one party to have such control. (I would feel the same way if a certain type of modern American Christian party gained unfair power and tried to make all of us live by their narrow Biblical standards.)

Obama Becomes First Black President in Landslide

hlerwin »

Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:26 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 3

Did you hear what President-elect Obama said? He said that "...tonight is your answer. It's the answer spoken by young and old, rich and poor, Democrat and Republican, black, white, Hispanic, Asian, Native American, gay, straight, disabled and not disabled - Americans who sent a message to the world that we have never been a collection of Red States and Blue States: we are, and always will be, the United States of America."

He's correct, of course.

Next President Will Leave 'Indelible' Mark, Says Christian Lawyer

hlerwin »

Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:25 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Did you hear what President-elect Obama said? He said that "...tonight is your answer. It's the answer spoken by young and old, rich and poor, Democrat and Republican, black, white, Hispanic, Asian, Native American, gay, straight, disabled and not disabled - Americans who sent a message to the world that we have never been a collection of Red States and Blue States: we are, and always will be, the United States of America."

He's correct, of course.