believer: now you're starting to get it . . . homosexuality as we know it now didn't exist in Jesus time. You should practice what you preach and not cherrypick. Its obvious you don't follow Luke 18:18-22 (esp verse 22: When Jesus heard this, he said to him, "You still lack one thing. Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.") Yo...more

believer: now you're starting to get it . . . homosexuality as we know it now didn't exist in Jesus time.

You should practice what you preach and not cherrypick. Its obvious you don't follow Luke 18:18-22 (esp verse 22: When Jesus heard this, he said to him, "You still lack one thing. Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.") You obviously haven't done that - you're such a "cherrypicker."less

believer: Does God condone the use of technology? I can't find it, in fact, some Christian denominations say that God condemns the use of technology. So, where does God condone the use of modern technology? Are you ever going to answer that for me? I really have to question your integrity since you've yet to look up what a logical fallacy (with your obvious misuse of it). God puts no paramet...more

believer: Does God condone the use of technology? I can't find it, in fact, some Christian denominations say that God condemns the use of technology. So, where does God condone the use of modern technology? Are you ever going to answer that for me?

I really have to question your integrity since you've yet to look up what a logical fallacy (with your obvious misuse of it).

God puts no parameters on his condemnation of homosexuality? Really? Have you read the passage in Romans? It specifically states "Because of this . . ." What is "because of this" if not a parameter? Face it you're trying to fit God into your worldview - not the other way around. But there is hope for you yet.less

believer: I'll give you $1,000 if you can find where it says "one man and one woman" . . . will you give me a grand if its not in there?

God Himself doesn't state homosexuality is wrong . . . only in certain instances does He state its wrong. The Bible is very clear about that. Just read the passages with a clear and rational heart and mind - clearly God has a problem with gay rape (Sodom and Gamorah) and has a problem with gay sex as an expression of idol worship (the passage in Romans). Other than that, God doesn't say much about...more

God Himself doesn't state homosexuality is wrong . . . only in certain instances does He state its wrong. The Bible is very clear about that. Just read the passages with a clear and rational heart and mind - clearly God has a problem with gay rape (Sodom and Gamorah) and has a problem with gay sex as an expression of idol worship (the passage in Romans). Other than that, God doesn't say much about it and Jesus Christ Himself says nothing about it.less

AgentOrange has been a poster here longer than you Clover (unless you perhaps used to post under a different moniker).

betapaul: God Himself doesn't state homosexuality is wrong . . . only in certain instances does He state its wrong. The Bible is very clear about that. Just read the passages with a clear and rational heart and mind - clearly God has a problem with gay rape (Sodom and Gamorah) and has a problem with gay sex as an expression of idol worship (the passage in Romans). Other than that, God doesn't say ...more

betapaul: God Himself doesn't state homosexuality is wrong . . . only in certain instances does He state its wrong. The Bible is very clear about that. Just read the passages with a clear and rational heart and mind - clearly God has a problem with gay rape (Sodom and Gamorah) and has a problem with gay sex as an expression of idol worship (the passage in Romans). Other than that, God doesn't say much about it and Jesus Christ Himself says nothing about it.less

HyperionOverseer = delusional

Daniel Paul: Your post in this thread - the one about Christians being sued because of their faith under the guise of "civil rights" - please cite that.

Daniel Paul: Please cite your post.

HO: That's the problem with folks like you - you think just because someone exhibits tolerance and love for his fellow man, including gay people, that automatically, he must be gay - it couldn't be that perhaps I find the intolerance towards gay people on this site and in real life reprehensible. In any case, I know lots of gay people and several of them are true Christians - depite what you th...more

HO: That's the problem with folks like you - you think just because someone exhibits tolerance and love for his fellow man, including gay people, that automatically, he must be gay - it couldn't be that perhaps I find the intolerance towards gay people on this site and in real life reprehensible.

In any case, I know lots of gay people and several of them are true Christians - depite what you think.

Just being gay is not a sin.less

believer: Did you look up logical fallacy yet?

savannah, I am an Evangelical Christian and yet I don't have a clue as to what you're talking about with regards to intolerance and hate for us? Could you cite some examples please? Note: Not being tolerant of some of our intolerance doesn't count.

believer, did you bother to look up logical fallacy, yet? . . . because you just committed another one.

With regards to homosexuality, many Christians commit obvious logical fallacies (wiki: logical fallacy - it gives a good overview for those who aren't familiar with what it is). Some aspects of homosexuality can be sin just like some aspects of heterosexuality are sinful. The fallacy is pretty clear when folks use a few passages which are clearly talking about specific circumstances to blanket all...more

With regards to homosexuality, many Christians commit obvious logical fallacies (wiki: logical fallacy - it gives a good overview for those who aren't familiar with what it is). Some aspects of homosexuality can be sin just like some aspects of heterosexuality are sinful. The fallacy is pretty clear when folks use a few passages which are clearly talking about specific circumstances to blanket all gay relationships as sinful. It's then ironic that many of those same people who blanket an entire group of people as engaging in sinful activity will turn around and say other things were meant only for the people of that time (slavery for example).less

believer: Do you understand what a logical fallacy is? . . . I'll give you time to look it up (Wiki has a nice overview). You commit this time and time again with regards to gay relationships. Chicago24 laid it out nicely. Homosexuality is sometimes a sin just like heterosexuality can be a sin (my heterosexuality gets me in trouble more than almost any other thing about me). You think that bec...more

believer: Do you understand what a logical fallacy is? . . . I'll give you time to look it up (Wiki has a nice overview). You commit this time and time again with regards to gay relationships. Chicago24 laid it out nicely. Homosexuality is sometimes a sin just like heterosexuality can be a sin (my heterosexuality gets me in trouble more than almost any other thing about me).

You think that because homosexuality is sometimes talked about as being sinful that it must be sinful all the time . . . your statement that God said marriage is between one man and one woman only is a textbook logical fallacy. Go ahead, look it up - you probably won't though as you don't want to challenge your worldview in any real way.less

skepticism: DP is right. The roommate situation happened right here in Grand Rapids. I find it to be very disheartening when a Christian person who owns a home can't look for a Christian roommate - it's not like it was an additional apartment or a house she wasn't living at but it was her own home and it would be shared living space. I hope they do the right thing and let her choose whatever kind ...more

skepticism: DP is right. The roommate situation happened right here in Grand Rapids. I find it to be very disheartening when a Christian person who owns a home can't look for a Christian roommate - it's not like it was an additional apartment or a house she wasn't living at but it was her own home and it would be shared living space. I hope they do the right thing and let her choose whatever kind of roommate she wants. I've already said that if she loses, I am going to give her a little cash to pay for whatever fines they might levy.

Here is a link to the story: http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/michigan/No-Christian-roommate-for-churchgoerless

believer: Is there anything biblical or Christ-like about abolishing the estate tax? Anything at all? The Bible that I read (NIV) makes no mention of that and as a matter of fact, it clearly makes being rich sound like a bad thing and being poor a good thing . . . what Bible are you reading? Anyway, you shouldn't talk about the "thought police" - if anyone on this site embodies a moniker like t...more

believer: Is there anything biblical or Christ-like about abolishing the estate tax? Anything at all? The Bible that I read (NIV) makes no mention of that and as a matter of fact, it clearly makes being rich sound like a bad thing and being poor a good thing . . . what Bible are you reading?

Anyway, you shouldn't talk about the "thought police" - if anyone on this site embodies a moniker like that, it would be you! :)less

This should no longer be called the Christian Post - call it right wing extremist post masquarading as Christianity. This is not of Christ and Christianpost.com should be ashamed to publish this as a "Christian" opinion.

Thanks Muggleborn, please do. believer: Again, you're commenting on something you know absolutely nothing about - the scientists did not "create" a new species - they just took a large enough population of the same species of fruit fly and allowed speciation to happen. They observed what happened.

occrest & muggleborn: Here is where your knowledge (or lack thereof) of evolution is showing. When I get "thicker feet" from running barefoot I am still able to "mate" with my wife and produce children. These fruit flies are a new species and as such cannot produce offspring that can have offspring of their own.