Sydney Archbishop Backs Gay Ban at School Prom

jason1010 »

Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:55 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

Creed 3712. Am I angry?

Yes and I have every justification. I think you would be angry if you were put at an economic disadvantage and an increased risk of violence in this society because you happened to be heterosexual. Step into my shoes just for a moment. For you, this is an intellectual and moral debate in the abstract. For me, it has real world ramifications and affects the quality (and potentially length) of the life that I get to live on this planet now. Fortunately, people with your views are dying out and the world is changing just as it began to change for blacks in the sixties and women over the 20th century. But its not changing nearly quickly enough for me, because my life is going by quickly.

What gives you the right to judge others and deny me the rights that you enjoy. Have your views (silly and without rationality in my opinion) but leave me alone. Don't fight to restrict my civil rights, I don't fight to restrict yours.

As for the Bible, did you ever wear two types of thread in your clothes or grow two types of veges in your garden. These are as expressly forbidden as homosexuality. Yet christians ignore these passages, as in the light of the 21 st century, they are patently absurb. You are just using bible to justify your hatred.

But lets put the Bible to one side and assume, even if I don't agree, that the scholars have settled its interpretation. If your God really doesn't like homosexuality, would you ever ask whether its a God worth believing in. Or do you blindly believe because its in a book (a book that would have been a different book if you'd been born in a different part of the world).

Because there really isn't a rational basis for God to despise homosexuality. I really hate to say this to you all, but we have been around a lot longer than the Scriptures that you are quoting. We are older than most of the major religions of the world. We aren't a "New Thing" but we are a constant in mankind and in nature. We don't reproduce, that seems to be the main argument but think of us as population control. We dont all need to reproduce, infact we need less people in the world not more. And we can still contribute in other ways. We have had World Leaders, Popes, Kings, Thespians, great artists such as Michaelangelo and Da Vinci.

Why can't you just let this go. Who gets hurt when a gay person lives there life without your interference.

Sydney Archbishop Backs Gay Ban at School Prom

jason1010 »

Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:55 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 8

"Dannypoo" - you argue that homosexuals will always be unacceptable because they have sex outside of marriage. the passages you quote say nowhere that marriage should be limited to heterosexuals. "God created marriage for the purpose of a male and female joining together". Well I suppose a heterosexual would write that wouldn't they; but in any event where does it say in the Bible "God created marriage for the purpose of a male and female joining together to the exclusion of all other relationships".

"Aritonang" - you probably know that the translation of the passage you quote has not been settled even by scholars with far more learning in these matters than you and I. So why do you choose a modern translation that best serves your prejudices?

You are both very quick to seize on flimsy evidence to deny other good people the rights that you enjoy. And it seems to come from no rational basis but from the outdated prejudice and bigotry for which many parts of the Christian religion are renowned amongst people of my generation.