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  • The Bible and Proposition 8

    jfair »
    Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:02 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    I suppose I have to type everything twice here on this blog. Regarding the word Love, the scriptures say:
    "Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him."
    "For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world."
    "And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever." 1 John 15-17.
    Christ himself said, "If ye love me, keep my commandments" John 14:15
    To those who claim that to love God is to justly remove him from the equation between Church and State, imagine what laws will govern us in the hereafter? Then ask yourself, are we much better off when we follow God's commandments now rather than accepting the philosophies of man, mingled with scripture.

  • The Bible and Proposition 8

    jfair »
    Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:51 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Now regarding the word Love, the scriptures say: “Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.”
    “For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.”
    “And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.” 1 John 15-17
    Christ himself said, “If ye love me, keep my commandments” (John 14:15).
    To those who claim that God should be removed from the equation between Church and State, imagine what laws will govern us in the hereafter? Are we not much better off if we follow God’s commandments now rather than follow the philosophies of man, mingled with scripture.

  • The Bible and Proposition 8

    jfair »
    Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:45 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    I am a Christian and believe in this policy, hate the sin and love the sinner. The Bible teaches so plainly that homosexuality is wrong and sinful. Therefore the thought that Christ would sanction same-sex marriages is utterly absurd. Didn't Christ say, "not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven" (Matthew 7:21). Homosexuality is an adjective or behavior. The scriptures reject it as a noun (Romans 1: 27, 29-32).
    Marriage between man and woman has always been ordained of God. Yes, ask yourself what Christ would do. Christ came to earth to save us FROM our sins, not IN our sins. Alexander Pope said it so descriptively: "Vice is a monster of so frightful mein, as, to be hated needs but to be seen; Yet seen too oft, familiar with her face, We first endure, then pity, then embrace." Someone else said, "Social acceptance does not change the status of an act, making wrong into right. If all the people in the world were to accept homosexuality...the practice would still be a deep dark sin." I reject the position of gay activists who proclaim, "I am, therefore I act." If we as Christians cannot hate the sin, then how can we truly love the sinner?
    Now regarding the word Love, the scriptures say: “Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.”
    “For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.”
    “And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.” 1 John 15-17
    Christ himself said, “If ye love me, keep my commandments” (John 14:15).
    To those who claim that God should be removed from the equation between Church and State, imagine what laws will govern us in the hereafter? Are we not much better off if we follow God’s commandments now rather than follow the philosophies of man, mingled with scripture.

  • So Much for Tolerance

    jfair »
    Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:21 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    As I have paid significant interest in the passing of Proposition 8, I have become deeply disturbed about the attacks on religious freedom. Yes, sadly, I am afraid that if people of faith do not stand up for a Moral Issue such as this, their rights will be taken away, and it most certainly affects our children. Attacks on The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, a.k.a. the Mormons, are clear examples of intolerance and discrimination. If churches cannot preach the consequences of indifference toward God's commandments without having their tax-status exemption challenged, then our most basic rights, freedom of religion, are lost.
    To believe: yes, the statement, "If we as Christians cannot hate sin, then how can we honestly love the sinner," are my own words, although the idea, of course, is what we as Christians believe. Feel free to share it with anyone. I hope the whole world hears it!

  • So Much for Tolerance

    jfair »
    Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:12 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    As I have paid significant interest in the passing of Proposition 8 I have become deeply disturbed about the attacks on religious freedom. Yes, sadly, I am afraid that if people of faith do not stand up for a Moral Issue such as this, their rights will be taken away, and it most certainly affects our children. Attacks on The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, a.k.a. the Mormons, are clear examples of intolerance and discrimination. If churches cannot preach the fear of indifference toward keeping God’s commandments without having their tax-status exemption challenged, then our most basic rights, freedom of religion, are lost.
    To believer: yes the statement, “If we as Christians cannot hate sin, then how can we honestly love the sinner,” are my own words, although the idea, of course, is what we as Christians believe. Feel free to share it with anyone. I hope the whole world hears it!

  • So Much for Tolerance

    jfair »
    Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:15 pm Agree: 7   Disagree: 3

    I am a Christian and believe in this policy, "hate the sin and love the sinner." The Bible teaches so plainly that homosexuality is wrong and sinful. Therefore the thought that Christ would sanction same-sex arriages is utterly absurd. Didn't Christ say, "not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Faither which is in heaven" (Matthew 7:21). Homosexuality is an adjective or behavior. The scriptures reject it as a noun (Romans 1: 27, 29-32). Marriage between man and woman has always been ordained of God. Yes, ask yourself what Christ would do. Christ came to earth to save us FROM our sins, not IN our sins. Alexander Pope said it so descriptively: "Vice is a monster of so frightful mein, as, to be hated needs but to be seen; Yet seen too oft, familiar with her face, We first endure, then pity, then embrace." Someone else said, "Social acceptace does not change the status of an act, making wrong into right. If all the people in the world were to accept homosexuality...the practce would still be a deep dark sin." I reject the position of gay activists who proclaim, "I am, therefore I act." Out of LOVE I support Proposition 8 and seek to reclaim all those who desire repentance. If we as Christians cannot hate the sin, then how can we honestly love the sinner? Proposition 8 is truly about LOVE.

  • So Much for Tolerance

    jfair »
    Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:02 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 3

    I am a Christian and believe in this policy, “hate the sin and love the sinner.” The Bible teaches so plainly that homosexuality is wrong and sinful. Therefore the thought that Christ would sanction same-sex marriages is utterly absurd. Didn’t Christ say, “not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven” (Matthew 7:21). Homosexuality is an adjective or behavior (Romans 1: 27, 29-32). The scriptures reject it as a noun. Marriage between man and woman has always been ordained of God. Yes, ask yourself what Christ would do. Christ came to earth to save us FROM our sins, not IN our sins. Alexander Pope said it so descriptively: "Vice is a monster of so frightful mein, as, to be hated needs but to be seen; Yet seen too oft, familiar with her face, We first endure, then pity, then embrace." Someone else said, “Social acceptance does not change the status of an act, making wrong into right. If all the people in the world were to accept homosexuality...the practice would still be a deep dark sin.” I reject the position of gay activists who proclaim “I am, therefore I act.” Out of LOVE I support Proposition 8 and seek to reclaim all those who desire repentance. If we as Christians cannot hate the sin, then how can we honestly love the sinner? Proposition 8 is truly about love.

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