smith__ < What if we keep the government out of the bedroom, >____ Now thats doesn't sound very Xian of you.....

SB, I with you, i had nothin to do with the 'sin' thang.......

believer___ < But considering the biological sciences were doing just fine prior to the theory of evolution coming along >_____ well, much has changed in the last 150 years in regard to mans understanding in the biological sciences......

believer, now,. now you know I didnt call you a liar, I do believe however that religious faith can sometimes stand in the way of objective analysis....BTW, I for one do not believe evolution invalidates the possibility of a creator, as an agnostic, I just dont know one way or the other........

well kitch, looks like your down in the count 6 to 19. BTW, There are quite a number of physicists, biologists & chemists that have won the noble prize and they dont lack intelligence. . Here are some names that I can think of: linus pauling, paul dirac, s. Chandresekhar, francis crick, richard feynman, james watson, steven weinberg, Its your post however that call into question your in...more

well kitch, looks like your down in the count 6 to 19. BTW, There are quite a number of physicists, biologists & chemists that have won the noble prize and they dont lack intelligence. . Here are some names that I can think of: linus pauling, paul dirac, s. Chandresekhar, francis crick, richard feynman, james watson, steven weinberg,

Its your post however that call into question your intelligence.less

bird____ < . Where is the half-man half monkey work in progress? >____perhaps you should study up a bit in the area of evolutionary science before you do any more posting on the subject......

2the___ < How do you decide which God you worship each day? Your God of Science >>____of course the god of science, thats who provides me electronic digits in my bank account every two weeks...

phil________ < If he wants to stay in willful denial, that's his choice. >_____what does that mean??

rev, looks like your getting a bit under the skin of some of our Xian friends, they are getting a bit testy........shame on you.

philo__ < you don't have any verifiable data to disprove that God didn't create >___ well, I agree and it is after all difficult to prove a negative. As an agnostic, i have no idea whether there was a creator or whether there is a creator, there is really no evidence as far as I can tell that one exists or existed. All I have to go on is what we humans can measure and observe and what scie...more

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< you don't have any verifiable data to disprove that God didn't create >___ well, I agree and it is after all difficult to prove a negative. As an agnostic, i have no idea whether there was a creator or whether there is a creator, there is really no evidence as far as I can tell that one exists or existed. All I have to go on is what we humans can measure and observe and what science has learned so far is an evolutionary process has taken place on earth for several billion years, perhaps initiated by a creator or not. The fossil record and DNA evidence indicate common descent in the tree of life on planet earth..less

believer, in as much as you reject evolution, fact is, its taught in the science class room, whereas your faith is where it should be--sunday school. as much as you would like evolution to go away, it will not as it is the foundation upon which the biological sciences rest....

pep, as is your MO, you cant answer simple questions put forth to you.....try again.

believer______ < in fact some scientists do not believe that the earth is near that old >-- and their data is___________??

pep, < scientists are left to literally live and die by the popular embrace of their theories. Not surprisingly, this makes for a very paranoid, very competitive working environment> looks like rambling nonsense really about nothing. do you know anything at all about science or the scientific method? Have you worked in the area of science? Do you know any one that makes a living in scien...more

pep,


< scientists are left to literally live and die by the popular embrace of their theories. Not surprisingly, this makes for a very paranoid, very competitive working environment>


looks like rambling nonsense really about nothing. do you know anything at all about science or the scientific method? Have you worked in the area of science? Do you know any one that makes a living in scientific research? Do you have any training in the sciences whatsoever? Based on your ramblings one would conclude no to all the above.

I have spent me career in science. Is it competitive? yes it can be, that's what keeps us hard working and honest. If you lie, if you falsify data, you will get discovered and you will get fired. If you make a honest mistake, someone will find it and it gets corrected. The vast majority of scientist go about their humble lives doing the best work they are capable of.

< left to literally live and die by the popular embrace of their theories.>

Where do you get this nonsense from, creation web-sites?? Can you provide examples?

< this makes for a very paranoid, ......... environment >

can you provide examples?

on occasion, there are mentally ill scientists that come along, just as in any population. Bet mental illness among scientist is lower than that found in the clergy, I understand there are a lot of nut-jobs there.

In a nut shell, you and conner have absolutely no idea what your talking. as you and conner uses the wonders of science to post your senseless anti-science ramblings, we forgive you for your ignorance..less

believer__< we are simply saying that evolution and more specifically macro-evolution is simply unproven and untrue. >___ you forgot to mention the other item science has wrong: the earth is billions of years in age.

RB, you got it right when you have pep & phil tag teaming against you.

philo___ < Well, here's the absolute truth just for you: Genesis 1:1 ¶ In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. >___ Any data to support the "truth"???

philo, . SO when is the self-correction from the fundamentalist's dogmatic world view to occur to account for the 150 years of data generated by thousands of scientist from around the world for the past 150 years that indicate evolutionary process's as factual and the age of the earth is not in the thousands of years, but rather billions?? It would appear you and ken conner are stuck i...more

philo, .

SO when is the self-correction from the fundamentalist's dogmatic world view to occur to account for the 150 years of data generated by thousands of scientist from around the world for the past 150 years that indicate evolutionary process's as factual and the age of the earth is not in the thousands of years, but rather billions??

It would appear you and ken conner are stuck in the same position as the catholic church and their ptolemaic dogma. Just as the church learned the truth can set you free, you too can enjoy the liberation of accepting the evidence in place of your dogmatic view of life on our planet..less

AB, and I'm sure your brother is a very fine chap:)

DP_____ < Christians, by contrast, acknowledge God as the center of our universe and His Word our definition of right and wrong. >______ How many centuries and how many millions were killed in the Xian Wars in europe arguing over "true" interpretation of the bible and who was "right"??. And of course Xians have never been "right" no matter what......