to chris333 - the problem with the REAL EVIDENCE is it becomes a 'LIBERAL' or 'UNPATRIOTIC' thing. when people oppose this war or tell the truth, they are labeled 'LIBERAL, UNPATRIOTIC, LEFTIST MEDIA etc etc. so how can you say that you NEED REAL EVIDENCE OR TRUTH when it is in front of you but REFUSE TO BELIEVE IT bec of support for a 'christian' president? ...more

to chris333 - the problem with the REAL EVIDENCE is it becomes a 'LIBERAL' or 'UNPATRIOTIC' thing. when people oppose this war or tell the truth, they are labeled 'LIBERAL, UNPATRIOTIC, LEFTIST MEDIA etc etc. so how can you say that you NEED REAL EVIDENCE OR TRUTH when it is in front of you but REFUSE TO BELIEVE IT bec of support for a 'christian' president?

here are the reasons for the war TRUTH & findings
1. US was attacked on 911 by osama/alqueda ---- Iraq/saddam had no connection
2. WMDs in iraq ---- No WMDs were found
3. liberation of people ----- kim of Nkorea is a dictator with nukes
4. IT IS NOT ABOUT OIL ---- Iraq has OIL.

remember GEORGE BUSH is the DECIDER he is the one making the decisions regarding policies.less

ted haggard who is paid $100,000/yr. talk about SELF DENIAL!

to wilderness - why are people 'heavy laden'? well bec. self righteous christians always point to sin & that their 'labour', in the name of obidience & self-denial, will result in blessings & opportunities. people get worn out, burnt out, weighed down & put in 'religious bondage.' by the way, I don't see pastors 'denying themselves'. th...more

to wilderness - why are people 'heavy laden'? well bec. self righteous christians always point to sin & that their 'labour', in the name of obidience & self-denial, will result in blessings & opportunities. people get worn out, burnt out, weighed down & put in 'religious bondage.'
by the way, I don't see pastors 'denying themselves'. they too seek these 'short-lived' pleasures. look at their luxury cars & houses. if they find happines in their relationship with god, they should give away all their material possessions & live in poverty & self denial.less

'There is almost no genuine compassion or urgency about serving and reaching people who don’t know Christ,” he added. YOU GOT THAT ONE RIGHT! The reason would be 'NO GENUINE COMPASSION'. you are treated as a worker/slave not as a person. weighed down, burnt out, worn out, & stressed out bec. of this 'endless' TO DO list. your blessings will depend on ...more

'There is almost no genuine compassion or urgency about serving and reaching people who don’t know Christ,” he added.

YOU GOT THAT ONE RIGHT!

The reason would be 'NO GENUINE COMPASSION'.
you are treated as a worker/slave not as a person. weighed down, burnt out, worn out, & stressed out bec. of this 'endless' TO DO list. your blessings will depend on how you perform this 'to do' list in the name of obedience & self-denial. then if your blessing did not materialize, you lack faith. or they slam you with a verse & tell you to make it work in the real world which does not & cannot even apply. The GOSPEL is always pointed to sin, it's your fault, you do not have faith, you failed & that is not biblical.

“I think the bottom line really is our own spiritual narcissism.'
WHO ARE THE MESSENGERS OF GOD ANYWAY, the people BEING reached or the people WHO ARE DOING THE REACHING / PREACHING.less

why do bush supporters evade the premise of the war, which is 'US has been attacked on 911', & 'there are WMDs in Iraq'. these 2 reasons has been debunked & BUSTED! so, they go around in circles looking for other 'reasons' to justify the war. If that does not work, they label people as 'liberals' or 'unpatriotic'. so if christ spoke again...more

why do bush supporters evade the premise of the war, which is 'US has been attacked on 911', & 'there are WMDs in Iraq'. these 2 reasons has been debunked & BUSTED! so, they go around in circles looking for other 'reasons' to justify the war. If that does not work, they label people as 'liberals' or 'unpatriotic'. so if christ spoke against this war, is he a liberal, terrorist lover or false prophet?

seedplanter - if he calls himself the DECIDER, why blame the CIA for his failures. that means that his presidency & cabinet is in chaos, no leadership, accountability or responsibility. bush is the problem.

terrorist in iraq? - alqueda in iraq was created bec. of the invasion.
bush is the problem bec he was itching to go to war. late 2002 to mar. 2003, bush was a broken record that saddam is connected to 911 & had wmds & he has links with osama. for the first time in US history, a president decided a PREEMPTIVE WAR. now the neo cons are changing the story that bush was not rushing to war.

chris333 - not for financial gain? there are kickbacks thanks to the NO BID CONTRACTS by bush's friends on the iraq reconstruction. billions are wasted on fraud & corruption bec. there is no accountability. if there is no competition, greed & love of money is prevalent.

jesus girle - 'no right to judge' - what about clinton? the gop 'cast the first stone' when he forgot to close his zipper on miss monica lewinsky.

bush LABELS himself to be a christian, but he does not act like one.
christ was not gullible. he opened his eyes & saw what was happening. how the pharisees used fear, guilt shame blame & labeling to get their way.less

obey what? this endless list of work; or just give your tithe & god will take care of everything? what about christ saying 'deny yourself', carry your cross & follow me. or what about the verse 'run another mile for your brethren.' are these verse costing other people? I have not seen a pastor/christian 'DENY themSELVES'. but actually the do the opposite &am...more

obey what? this endless list of work; or just give your tithe & god will take care of everything?
what about christ saying 'deny yourself', carry your cross & follow me. or what about the verse 'run another mile for your brethren.' are these verse costing other people? I have not seen a pastor/christian 'DENY themSELVES'. but actually the do the opposite & serve themSELVES!less

The reason why some people's life is difficult is bec. there are people who IMPOSE their opinions on others. they use fear, guilt, shame & blame in the name of obedience, that is why they miss the blessing & opportunities & their life becomes difficult. the pharisees impose their religious opinions on people in the name of obedience; while the same pharisees or self righteous chri...more

The reason why some people's life is difficult is bec. there are people who IMPOSE their opinions on others. they use fear, guilt, shame & blame in the name of obedience, that is why they miss the blessing & opportunities & their life becomes difficult. the pharisees impose their religious opinions on people in the name of obedience; while the same pharisees or self righteous christians do not practice what they preach.
one good example is christianity would say 'deny yourself' & if you do not obey, god will punish you; but the same people (pastors/christians) would serve them'selves'. that is why christ rebuked the pharisees & the experts in the law & told them that they are 'putting weight on people's shoulder', shutting the door of heaven on men's face & are hypocrites!less

moral topics? what about abuse of power, corruption, love of money & union of church & state for political advancement.

to photche - Is saddam the only dictator on this planet? I watched 60 minutes yesterday, & they featured the rape of women in congo & some of them are as young as 6yrs old. where are the US marines that would give these women 'freedom' from this sexual terror? what about the dictator in equatorial guinea who sits in a pool of oil? US is not sending in the marines to free the peop...more

to photche - Is saddam the only dictator on this planet? I watched 60 minutes yesterday, & they featured the rape of women in congo & some of them are as young as 6yrs old. where are the US marines that would give these women 'freedom' from this sexual terror? what about the dictator in equatorial guinea who sits in a pool of oil? US is not sending in the marines to free the people from this oppress & corrupt leader. Osama is the criminal who did 911 not saddam. US supported saddam during the 80s. what about the other dictators like augusto pinochet of chile, ferdinand marcos of the philippines (bec of Clark & subic bases), manuel noriega (panama canal) & shah of iran (oil).
bush's reason for the invasion is bec. of 911, but when asked the connection bet saddam & 911, people evade the PRIMARY question & they go around & give 'reasons' or they start labeling who question this war.
by the way, if a leader thinks he is above the law, does not respect the constitution, he is a dicator.less

Two televangelists have resigned their posts as regents at Oral Roberts University, as the DEBT RIDDEN school tries to regroup following a spending scandal involving its former president. The university on Thursday also settled with one of three professors who filed a wrongful termination lawsuit against the school. Oral Roberts University is DEBT RIDDEN? I wonder why.

1. But isn't that what the church tells you TO DO, WORK WORK WORK in the name of obedience bec. that is a sign you love god? VOLUNTEER WORK, GIVE YOUR TITHE, be christlike, be good, obey, sacrifice, deny yourself & don't think of your'self bec. it is selfish! WHAT EVER THE CHURCH PREACHES IT IS NOT, THAT IS WHAT YOU END UP DOING ANYWAY. 2. 'Everytime someone truly believe...more

1. But isn't that what the church tells you TO DO, WORK WORK WORK in the name of obedience bec. that is a sign you love god? VOLUNTEER WORK, GIVE YOUR TITHE, be christlike, be good, obey, sacrifice, deny yourself & don't think of your'self bec. it is selfish! WHAT EVER THE CHURCH PREACHES IT IS NOT, THAT IS WHAT YOU END UP DOING ANYWAY.
2. 'Everytime someone truly believes in jesus, he/she changes. it's impossible to remain the same after realizing one's desperate need for him.' There is no real change bec. christians & pastors are people, they will keep on thinking of themselves, for themselves & about themselves. if there is real change then christians & pastors will 'deny' themselves' like John the baptist. he did not have any house or stake or fancy chariots. He lived in the wilderness & ate grasshoppers. christians & pastors are good actors looking good for jesus but they still cater for the SELF.

OH BOY!!less

to www.theotrek.org - why blame hollywood? what about this president who professes to be a christian but is arrogant, warmonger, war profiteer & starts a war bec. of 'revenge' or payback for 911. did he show wisdom? No, but he corrupted more power & greed.

''Sometimes we have a tendency to over-analyze what God's purpose for us might be. Or we get so busy looking for our purpose, we miss it altogether and louse up the job we're supposed to be doing in the process. Or we sit down and do nothing, almost daring God to tell us what to do.'' Well the reason why is bec. it does not SPECIFICALLY SAY what your purpose is....more

''Sometimes we have a tendency to over-analyze what God's purpose for us might be. Or we get so busy looking for our purpose, we miss it altogether and louse up the job we're supposed to be doing in the process. Or we sit down and do nothing, almost daring God to tell us what to do.''

Well the reason why is bec. it does not SPECIFICALLY SAY what your purpose is. and from the statement above, your time is wasted trying to figure it out; making someone else's stupid opinion become a reality in the name of obedience; brainwashed to give your tithe so some pastor can fulfill his purpose of getting rich-buying a luxury car & big house; worn out, burnt out, exhausted, weighed down, disappointed, discouraged, blamed for & accused of sin or not filled with the holy spirit, exploited, & dejected bec. of FINDING GOD'S PURPOSE!less

HMMM...after that what. suffering=SIN, diseases=SIN, self=SIN, making your own decisions=SIN, standing up for what you believe=SIN, money=SIN, you as an individual=SIN, being reasonable=SIN/unbiblical, self-confidence=SIN, being happy=SIN, prosperity=SIN, being practical or using your common sense= SIN, chosing what's good for you=SIN, attracted to a woman=SIN, speaking up your mind=...more

HMMM...after that what. suffering=SIN, diseases=SIN, self=SIN, making your own decisions=SIN, standing up for what you believe=SIN, money=SIN, you as an individual=SIN, being reasonable=SIN/unbiblical, self-confidence=SIN, being happy=SIN, prosperity=SIN, being practical or using your common sense= SIN, chosing what's good for you=SIN, attracted to a woman=SIN, speaking up your mind=SIN. every thing points to sin, that is why there are people who leave the church bec. THEY ARE WORN OUT, BURNT OUT, EXHAUSTED, WEIGHED DOWN, DISAPPOINTED, DISCOURAGED, EXPLOITED, BRAINWASHED & DESTROYED!less

'WILL YOU TRUST YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER WHO IS ETERNAL?' NO my life got screwed up for trusting god. all I experience is work work work, & obey obey obey, enslaved in religious bondage & weigh down with guilt, shame, fear. his reply was always 'deny yourself & it is not biblical, do not lean unto your understanding! just give your tithe & every thing will be taken care...more

'WILL YOU TRUST YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER WHO IS ETERNAL?' NO
my life got screwed up for trusting god. all I experience is work work work, & obey obey obey, enslaved in religious bondage & weigh down with guilt, shame, fear. his reply was always 'deny yourself & it is not biblical, do not lean unto your understanding! just give your tithe & every thing will be taken cared of ! is this a good loving god when asked for a fish you are given a snake, a stone for a bread & slammed the door on my face when knocking!less

'OTHERS THINK THAT HE IS SOMEONE WHO CAUSES BAD THINGS TO HAPPEN WHEN WE SO SOMETHING WRONG!' YES, THAT SEEMS TO BE CORRECT. a god of love? when christ said 'DENY YOURSELF, carry your cross & FOLLOW ME!' if you do not obey god, you do not love god, or if you do not obey god, it is sin! god said to adam & eve after they fell, - IT'S YOUR FAULT, YOU DECIDED FO...more

'OTHERS THINK THAT HE IS SOMEONE WHO CAUSES BAD THINGS TO HAPPEN WHEN WE SO SOMETHING WRONG!' YES, THAT SEEMS TO BE CORRECT.
a god of love?
when christ said 'DENY YOURSELF, carry your cross & FOLLOW ME!'
if you do not obey god, you do not love god, or if you do not obey god, it is sin!
god said to adam & eve after they fell, - IT'S YOUR FAULT, YOU DECIDED FOR YOURSELVES!
this is a classic response from god. - IT IS NOT BIBLICAL! YOU ARE LEANING UNTO YOUR OWN UNDERSTANDING!

ARE THESE BIBLICAL STATEMENTS DESCRIBES A GOD OF LOVE, THAT WE ARE HIS SPECIAL CREATION? I AM NOT EXCITED TO GET TO KNOW HIMless

' the easier route throught life is the broad pathway of secular happiness, with all of its side roads to decadenc & self-indulgence.' REALLY? Pastors use the secular system that is why they have secular happiness. I do not see pastors & tele evangelist deny themselves. as a matter of fact they have luxury cars, homes & they live an easy life because they have FREE MONEY! di...more

' the easier route throught life is the broad pathway of secular happiness, with all of its side roads to decadenc & self-indulgence.' REALLY? Pastors use the secular system that is why they have secular happiness. I do not see pastors & tele evangelist deny themselves. as a matter of fact they have luxury cars, homes & they live an easy life because they have FREE MONEY! did these pastors walk a narrow path when they are rich, greedy & lovers of money!

By the way, isn't that what the church demand of you christians! volunteer & missions works bec. it is considered denying oneself, it is considered part of OBEDIENCE as a sign of loving god. You christian are typical DAMN IF YOU DO & DAMN IF YOU DON'T! MANHOLES!!!less

the good news always revolve around sin & christians are so arrogant, so confident of their righteousness, that they look down on other christians who are struggling & they put weight on their shoulders, very belligerent on to others. like the pharisees, they would look for something to accuse, & spin the issue so the problem goes back to those who are struggling. pastors are hypocrte...more

the good news always revolve around sin & christians are so arrogant, so confident of their righteousness, that they look down on other christians who are struggling & they put weight on their shoulders, very belligerent on to others. like the pharisees, they would look for something to accuse, & spin the issue so the problem goes back to those who are struggling.
pastors are hypocrtes, - demand this endless list of works, but pastors could not & would not deny themselves! they are lovers of money, greedy, & peddling god for free money!less

to muggleborn - oh I got this cynicism from the church bec. christians & pastors always point to sin!

forgot that pastors are the ones who are judgemental bec. they do not work, their thinking, knowledge & understanding is narrow minded. they do not deal with the reality, bec. they caged in the church blinded by their own self-righteousness & stuck with religion! they could not give you PRACTICAL answerS to life's struggles. their mentality is sin & grace & tithe! that is how...more

forgot that pastors are the ones who are judgemental bec. they do not work, their thinking, knowledge & understanding is narrow minded. they do not deal with the reality, bec. they caged in the church blinded by their own self-righteousness & stuck with religion! they could not give you PRACTICAL answerS to life's struggles. their mentality is sin & grace & tithe! that is how narrow their mind is! that is why when you ask them about questions regarding reality, they are stupid, ignorant, & their teachings are immature & childish!less