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  • What Divides Catholics and Protestants?

    leapfrog »
    Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:58 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    Irenaeus,

    You make it sound like their authority was Peter already as the Pope. I always took it as the people like Paul who would travel to them and give them the good news. Surely they would have written down the things that Paul said to them. Ultimately though Jesus Himself would be their authority as He is ours.

  • Evangelicals Give Mixed Reactions to Pope's Visit

    leapfrog »
    Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:36 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    In some of my studies in regards to catholic teaching it seems that some pagan beliefs have found their way into it. They have just been "Christianized." Pattiepie seems to be on top of things. Lidia my question to you is why have you become Catholic? What do you think of Protestants in general such as myself? Obviously you don't know all about me but we are engaging in debate on a very serious matter. It just seems that Scripture is being misinterpreted by someone.

  • Evangelicals Give Mixed Reactions to Pope's Visit

    leapfrog »
    Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:47 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I have a lot more questions but I have to leave at the moment. I would like to continue our conversation though. This goes to both lidiapurple and thelordismylight. Hopefully we can remain in contact.

  • Evangelicals Give Mixed Reactions to Pope's Visit

    leapfrog »
    Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:18 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Why would I want to have the saints pray for me? The Bible is quite clear that we can go straight to God without a "middle man."

  • Some Young Religious Voters Focus on Social Justice

    leapfrog »
    Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:25 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "Changing their faith." That worries me.

  • Evangelicals Give Mixed Reactions to Pope's Visit

    leapfrog »
    Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:03 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Ok lidiapurple I'll take the bait.

    How about purgatory? The Papacy. Going to confessional. Praying to the "saints."

  • What Divides Catholics and Protestants?

    leapfrog »
    Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:27 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Taj,

    You make it sound like Protestants aren't in the trenches against the new age movement, islam, immorality, and secularism. I'll be the first to admit that not all do and that some denominations are even outright heretical. I do think that Protestants are followers of Jesus and are truly trying to go back to the early church which despite everything you and Irenaeus say is not Catholic. Basically, I'm not convinced. The evidence of the Bible is strongly against it. It's mostly just misinterpretation of Scripture. Of course you will accuse me of the same thing. Where does that leave us than? At an impasse of course. I pray you don't read this and think that I'm angry at you or anything of the sort. I just pray that you might see things in a different way. I believe you are in error in some ways. Although, it's not like we'll actually be able to convince each other anyways.

  • What Divides Catholics and Protestants?

    leapfrog »
    Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:54 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Truthandjustice1,

    I'm not sure I follow when you say that Scripture supports Catholic teaching. You also seem to be focused on the numbers of different denominations. One question. Why does it matter? Maybe I'm not following what you are trying to mean by that.

  • What Divides Catholics and Protestants?

    leapfrog »
    Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:46 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Truthandjustice1 I would advise you to just go to this site and read down the list. They are highly Biblically accurate in regards to the Catholic church. Of course you will just take away from it that it's "wrong." Or that the Bible is misinterpreted. The site was eye opening to me. I pray it will be for you as well.

    http://www.gotquestions.org/Catholic-questions.html

  • What Divides Catholics and Protestants?

    leapfrog »
    Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:52 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Iranaeus,

    "You are wrong. If I hadn't been persuaded of the biblical and historical basis of the Catholic position after some years of much prayer and study, I would still believe as a Baptist; actually, as a Baptist that very much leaned towards Reformed theological position on various issues."

    Interesting, so you were once a Baptist and converted to Catholocism. What were the main issues or things that drove you to that? What were things that you studied? Books you read? I ask because I myself am highly curious.

    "And I have not been slinging mud... not sure what you have been reading. I thought that I had been forthright and had not been derogatory."

    I apologize I didn't mean you in particular. I just didn't want it to come to mud slinging. That happens to often in Christian forums and whatnot. You have been very forthright and dare I say passionate with your responses.


    "Actually, leaving Catholicism out of the picture, this could also be said within Protestantism. In fact, with the exception of papal primacy, almost every other teaching that is distinctive to the Catholic Church can be found somewhere in at least one other non-Catholic Christian denomination or sect."

    I actually agree with this. After the "schism" from the Catholic church a lot of it's traditions were kept. I still see some of it myself. Granted, I don't know everything that there is to know about Catholocism. I don't agree with some teachings though. I'll leave that for another comment.

  • What Divides Catholics and Protestants?

    leapfrog »
    Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:16 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Irenaeus, it seems that you definately have a catholic upbringing. I would like to see some of these claims of scripture backing catholic teaching. I think history proves otherwise. I'm not here to argue though. Your defense is adamant but I fear it's unfounded. This is just turning into a mud slinging contest anyways. Both Catholics and Protestants could site sources and use the same Bible verses to back their claims. I myself have been raised in a Protestant background and always found the teachings of Catholics to be blunt iffy. Most of you are sighting sources that mean nothing to the person you are talking with and expect other people to hop on. I doubt we'll change anyone's mind commenting back and forth. I am highly curious as to what everyone "Really" thinks and believes though.

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