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Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. (JN 8:32)
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wbmoore, On the issue of the robe's color. It could have been purple, then stained scarlet by His profuse bleeding. Therefore both accounts of the robes color are correct. The color "contradiction" is an argument seen many times on this site. Careful where you cast you pearls.
agent and steve: good comments but we've still not resolved the issue. The world must keep on waiting. LOL
BTW no time for counter point.
To all: God bless, I'm rock houndin' till the 18th and I'll be device free.
p.s. for those who don't know, rock houndin' is slang for my hobby (finding and collecting fossils, rocks and stone tools)
SteveH20: fossils date the layer, layers date the fossils. fossil "A" should be found in layer "A", layer "A" should contain fossil "A". This description is an over simplification but does represent the circularity of the method.
p.s. I and my family own/study one of the largest private fossil and ancient human arifact collections in the state. It covers about 2500 sqare feet.(but that doesn't make me an expert)
agent: The point of this ED act in LA is to "help bring an end to allegations that teachers and students who share views contradicting or challenging the tenets of Darwinism in the classroom are marginalized, discriminated, or ostracized."
If that is a problem for anyone I would be persuaded that they are an evolution fascist.
agent: Yes paleontologist expect to find certain fossils in certain rocks. Thats established as the circular method that has been popular with them.
It is a fact that some ID proponents are not Christians and THAT was my point. BTW some evolutionist are(christian)
As to the error in using "God dunit" as a hypothesis, it is just as valid as the "nothing/big bang/primordial soup dunit" hypothesis (which is also something science can't falsify)
Regarding the chromo2 fusion you and I both know the research is subjective, yet has not been established and the certainty of orhtologous pairing of retropseudogenes and overall nonfunction of pseudogenes is also not established.
agent: My last post is not meant to be condescending. I hadn't realized mathetes had already pointed the citation out.
"We ain't done yet Son"? Maybe, but I am. At least for tonight.
agent: I did cite the quote. The post began with the citation, but I'll be more specific Nature (the magazine) 440 (the issue).
ifeelfine: Regarding this debate, technically it has only been implied that you are a heretic. You are correct that some ID proponents are other than Christian. Academic ID proponents do not invoke God as creator, they simply acknowledge an intelligent being as the uncaused cause of the universe. As to the implications of evolution or creation, if one does not believe it to be a possibilty then niether are its implications.
The point I am trying to get across is evolution is not the only possibilty and that we should not be "soup nazis" in the kitchen of science. NO INTELLIGENT DESIGN FOR YOU!!
steveH20: perhaps I should have typed "intelligent designISM" which does not ascribe to any particular religion.
steveH20: "hoping for some honesty" At the end of the day I would like to see both THEORIES critically analyzed, because that is what evolutionISM and creationISM are. Each one is a belief, a different interpretation of the evidence.
agent: In Nature 440 the discoverers of tiktaalik (daeshler, shubin, and jenkins)comment that despite the dicoveries of titaalik and other lobe fin fish that "our understanding of major transformations at the fish-tetrapod transition has remained limited" in other words the smoking gun for the transition from fish to tetrapod does not exist.
agent:tiktaalik most likely no different than similar species alive today. ie the northern snakehead and the walking catfish (Clarias batrachus) are air-breathing fish that can travel overland for considerable distances. The mudskippers are fish that breathe oxygen through their skin and along on land with the aid of their fleshy fins. The climbing perch Anabas testudineus not only breathes air and "walks" on land but is even said to be capable of climbing trees. Yet none of these curious fish are considered by evolutionists to be ancestors of tetrapods or transitional species. They are simply interesting and specialized fish.
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signing off as well. Blessings to all.
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hlerwin: Technically their rights do end, but only when they violate the rights of another. ie harassment, stalking, assault, etc.
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prophet: you are correct Islam does direct good muslims to convert the infadel or kill him if he will not. The muslim hadith even teaches the practice of "hudna" which is a false peace strategy to gain an advantage over the enemies of islam.
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hlerwin: The koran contradictions of the Bible are numerous. ie Yahweh's son is Christ. Allah has no son. We can determine Yahweh and allah are not the same being.
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I believe everyone has the right to share their faith and everyone also has the right to reject what is shared with them if they choose.
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hlerwin: To answer your question, Yes muslims have the right to share their faith as do those of other faiths. The priciple question is does one want Freedom of Religion or Freedom from Religion? In America one can have which ever they wish.
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hlerwin: Your right about Mohammed's claim. Its not surprising he did so if you consider he presented himself to the Jews as their messiah and to Christians as the returned Christ. He was obviously rejected as being neither.
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