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Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. (JN 8:32)
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"As for being cowardly...I've found that to be an equal trait in one way or another across the whole of mankind."
There's nobody more cowardly than Christians. They're terrified of reality and that's why they have a childish belief in heaven.
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mathetes » Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:19 pm : 1 : 7 Flag
michael-j,
"...they are professional liars who mentally abuse children."
You have no room to cry "censorship!" when your posts are flagged, for you continue to break the guidelines established by CP. They told us posters what the rules are and ask us to enforce them through the use of flags. Your libelous comments are unwelcome here.
Play nice, or don't play at all. If your ideas have any merit, they can stand on their own without the slander and libel.
GROW UP MATHETES. YOU ARE NOT IN CHARGE OF THIS BLOG. THIS IS AMERICA. YOU CAN'T JUST DELETE COMMENTS THAT YOU DISAGREE WITH.
If I know somebody is a liar, I'm going to call him a liar. If you don't like that, you can shove it.
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idietolive, did you delete my comments?
I'm convinced Christians are the most cowardly people in human history.
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Another problem is the never ending attempts by Christians to ignore our constitution, especially our Establishment Clause. They want to make America a theocracy like Iran.
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Flagged as inappropriate. show The other issue here is religious indoctrination of young gullible defenseless children, also known as brainwashing, also known as child abuse. Christians have zero moral values. hide
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It's interesting that some Christians think it's OK to make a public school their own private church, never caring who they offend.
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Thousands of intelligent young people are throwing out the breathtaking stupidity of Christianity every year, and one of the reasons is this idiotic fake museum. What is left is the bottom of the barrel. The dumbest kids never learn how to escape from the worthless Christian death cult.
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"The controversial Creation Museum in Petersburg, Ky., marked its second anniversary this past week with slightly lower numbers than its first year but with much excitement."
What makes this worthless museum controversial is they are professional liars who mentally abuse children.
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A book Don McLeroy has obviously never read (he wouldn't be able to understand it anyway):
"Why Evolution is True" by Jerry Coyne, published in 2009.
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"The Texas Senate rejected on Thursday the re-appointment of Republican Don McLeroy, a creationist, as chairman of the State Board of Education. The Senate voted 19-11 for McLeroy, short of the two-thirds majority required."
There are 19 Republicans in the Texas Senate and every single one of them voted to let a creationist (the entire universe was magically created 6,000 years ago) control their science education and science textbooks.
The Republicans continue to prove they are a political party for the most uneducated people in America. The Republicans continue to show their complete disrespect for our constitution (google Establishment Clause).
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The Discovery Institute, an intelligent design think tank, said the move to reject his nomination "can only be attributed to political retribution."
Translation:
The DISHONESTY Institute, a CHRISTIAN CREATIONIST ORGANIZATION, said the move to reject his nomination "can only be attributed to political retribution."
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EXCELLENT BOOK = WHY EVOLUTION IS TRUE
Here's a reader's comment from Amazon:
66 of 74 people found the following review helpful:
THE intro book for the evolution-curious, but uninformed!, March 14, 2009
By Esk
I was raised in a very conservative Christian environment and taught Young-Earth Creationism (anti-evolution, anti-Big Bang, etc.). I bought into it for a long time. In college, I finally began to investigate some of the claims for myself---reading what was _really_ being said by "the other side", rather than what I was being told was being said.
The disparity I discovered can hardly be exaggerated: what I had been taught bore essentially zero resemblance to the real thing. Genuine evolutionary theory was virtually unrecognizable in the creationists' caricatures of it. I learned that I had been lied to---intentionally, or not, I do not know---and that the quantity, diversity, and quality of evidence in support of evolution was simply crushing. It wasn't just that it could not be ignored or dismissed as trivial; it was that it was so cohesive and mutually supportive and overwhelmingly convincing that it simply HAD to be accepted as true. (As Gould said, it would be "perverse to withhold provisional assent.")
This discovery sparked a long (and ongoing) journey of reading books on the topic of evolution---books by authors such as Stephen Jay Gould, Sean Carroll, Richard Dawkins, Charles Darwin, Neil Shubin, and others. I was enthralled with the elegant simplicity and beauty and shear explanatory power of the ideas I was learning. They not only made sense, but had tremendous evidentiary support in nature and the lab (as well as mathematical modeling, game theory, use in other disciplines, etc.).
But, as my journey progressed, and I continued to absorb ever more information and improve my understanding, I began to realize something. As I interfaced with many of those from my upbringing (i.e., those uninformed on evolution), it dawned on me that I hadn't yet found a truly excellent "introductory book" that clearly and accessibly discussed what evolution is (and is not) while relying heavily upon concrete evidentiary examples across many different disciplines. I had read many great books specializing in this or that discipline, or focusing more on the understanding of evolutionary concepts (but with looser reliance upon examples in nature), or whatever. But, I wanted a single, superb book to provide a solid overview of evolution that was inseparably intertwined with many diverse supporting evidentiary examples.
When a curious friend actually asked, voluntarily, for such a book suggestion, and I could not provide a single title (as opposed to a long list, which is too much to ask of the casually curious), I decided my desire for such a book had transformed into a bona fide need.
"Why Evolution Is True" is that book.
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"I'm curious as to where it stems from and why you feel that way. Is it tied only to the evolution debate?"
The evolution deniers (there is no real debate, it's a fact) are part of the reason for my disdain for Christianity. Christians who are dishonest (the Discovery Institute), Christians who love censorship (on this blog and elsewhere), Christians who don't respect our Establishment Clause, Christians who brainwash their children, Christians who yell at Biology teachers. I could go on but I don't have all night.
I'm strongly in favor of the complete eradication of all religions, including Christianity, which by the way is false, extremely false, every belief of that cult is pure nonsense.
Read this quick before a cowardly Christian deletes it.
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"Anyhow, just some thoughts."
And they were excellent thoughts. You have won my complete respect.
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Flagged as inappropriate. show It's for a good reason Christians have a terrible reputation. Nobody loves censorship more than Christians. The cowardly censorship lovers ruin the reputation of all Christians. hide
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"Based on the video, I have to agree with you that I cannot explain these ERVs any other way at this time."
You are rapidly earning my respect. This is most progress I've ever made with an evolution denier.
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I know it wasn't you but if it happens again I'm out of here.
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"Why Evolution is True" by Jerry Coyne (published 2009)
"The Making of the Fittest: DNA and the Ultimate Forensic Record of Evolution" by Sean Carroll (published 2006)
Carroll's book talks about molecular biology and genetics.
Coyne's book talks about everything else.
Both books were written for the non-scientist but Coyne's book is a bit more easier to understand and maybe a bit more of a pleasure to read.
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Another thing. Who gave logicshouldprevail's last comment a thumbs down? If you're on my side you're not being helpful.
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Flagged as inappropriate. show The fake scientists of the Christian creationist Discovery Institute are professional liars. Their dishonesty is a proven fact. Do not suppress this fact. How often do they spread lies about science and scientists? Every single day. hide
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