mattDC 81 'yes SBellam, it is a place where you convene with others, headed by a pastor, and all grow in faith together while reaching out to others that are needing a relationship with Jesus. Many people that find a church to call their home often become members so they can become more involved in God's works at the church.' RELATIONSHIP? all I heard was OBEY, TO THIS DO THAT, DON'T QUESTIO...more

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'yes SBellam, it is a place where you convene with others, headed by a pastor, and all grow in faith together while reaching out to others that are needing a relationship with Jesus. Many people that find a church to call their home often become members so they can become more involved in God's works at the church.'

RELATIONSHIP? all I heard was OBEY, TO THIS DO THAT, DON'T QUESTION THE WORD OF GOD, THAT IS NOT BIBLICAL.

in a relationship A PERSON CAN BE HIMSELF & CARRY A CONVERSATION, or communicate & ask questions without being accused or condemned of being himself.

but in christianity, they shove the bible down your throat & you ARE FORCED TO OBEY. when you try to be open & BE A PERSON you are told to 'shut up' & that the SELF IS A SIN. your views & decisions are STRANGLED.
RELATIONSHIP IS JUST A WORD IN CHRISTIANITY.

they become involved in the WORK OF GOD. well that is performance NOT RELATIONSHIP.less

christians have replaced common sense with religion. pastors have a tithe mentality, they are hypocrites they shove religion down your throat accuse & condemn you of sin when you ask about self, money. but when you say something about pastors making $100,000 / year, their defense is 'ye not judge me' give your 10% & you will have GOOD LUCK (blessing) if not you will have BAD LUCK (curse) chri...more

christians have replaced common sense with religion.
pastors have a tithe mentality, they are hypocrites
they shove religion down your throat accuse & condemn you of sin when you ask about self, money. but when you say something about pastors making $100,000 / year, their defense is 'ye not judge me'
give your 10% & you will have GOOD LUCK (blessing) if not you will have BAD LUCK (curse)
christianity is a RELATIONSHIP? a 5 second introduction is NO A RELATIONSHIP.less

Belief in the Gospel, according to Keller, should impact one’s motivation of work, work ethic and treatment of others around them in work. He urged listeners to continually gather together and through talks and prayer, accumulate wisdom on how God can have a greater impact in their field. most of the wisdom I heard is 'give your 10%' & you will be successful. that's wisdom? NO THAT"S EXPLOITA...more

Belief in the Gospel, according to Keller, should impact one’s motivation of work, work ethic and treatment of others around them in work. He urged listeners to continually gather together and through talks and prayer, accumulate wisdom on how God can have a greater impact in their field.

most of the wisdom I heard is 'give your 10%' & you will be successful. that's wisdom? NO THAT"S EXPLOITATION MANIPULATION. that is why you see televangelist making $100,000 / year

and another is a pastor told me that 'self confidence is a SIN, the S I N middle of sin is I. oh, these hypocrites peddler of the gospel do not deal with politics A$$ ki$$ers customer service job loss job interview. they just stick out their hands shove the tithe bag down your throat & quote MALACHI. that is why they are stupid experts in the law.less

will pastors be contented with $11.00 / hour? where do pastors get a salary of $100,000 / year? did god tell a pastor making $100,000 / year to make $100,000 / year? did god instruct franklin graham to make $100,000 / year? He came as a carpenter,” said Keller. “The Bible says that all works matter to God. All works. Not just works that make money.” if that is the case, then why a...more

will pastors be contented with $11.00 / hour?

where do pastors get a salary of $100,000 / year? did god tell a pastor making $100,000 / year to make $100,000 / year?
did god instruct franklin graham to make $100,000 / year?

He came as a carpenter,” said Keller. “The Bible says that all works matter to God. All works. Not just works that make money.”
if that is the case, then why are there televangelist making $100,000 / year.less

Penny has also worked for me, assisting me with various personal needs. She’s ironed my clothes, cleaned up my messes, made coffee for me, prayed for me, and basically, done whatever I needed her to do at the time. you have a maid joyce? why don't you do it yourself? your definition of servanthood is YOU ARE LAZY & you are exploiting the bible. 'be a servant' that means iron my clothes, cle...more

Penny has also worked for me, assisting me with various personal needs. She’s ironed my clothes, cleaned up my messes, made coffee for me, prayed for me, and basically, done whatever I needed her to do at the time.

you have a maid joyce? why don't you do it yourself? your definition of servanthood is YOU ARE LAZY & you are exploiting the bible.
'be a servant' that means iron my clothes, clean my mess.

And we’re not worried about living by the world’s standard, like having to wear what the fashion magazines say is “in” or having the “right” job or LEVEL OF INCOME to make us “important.”

how much are you making? aren't you paid $100,000 / year? what hypocrisy.

'be a servant' so you can exploit themless

matthew 10:9 do not get any gold or silver or copper to take with you in your belts - no bag for the journey or extra shirt in a thousand instances an apostolic preacher, who goes to the wilderness to seek the lost sheep will be EXPOSED TO HUNGER COLD & OTHER INCONVENIENCES have no money in your purse is a command obedience to which was secured by the narrow circumstance of most of the pr...more

matthew 10:9
do not get any gold or silver or copper to take with you in your belts - no bag for the journey or extra shirt

in a thousand instances an apostolic preacher, who goes to the wilderness to seek the lost sheep will be EXPOSED TO HUNGER COLD & OTHER INCONVENIENCES

have no money in your purse is a command obedience to which was secured by the narrow circumstance of most of the primitive genuine preachers of the gospel. WHOLE HERDS OF FRIARS MENDICANTS HAVE PROFESSED THE SAME PRINCIPLE AND ABANDONED THEMSELVES TO VOLUNTARY POVERTY. but if the money be in the heart it is a worse evil. in the former case, it may be a temptation to sin, in the latter it must be ruinousless

hyperionoverseer it's irrelevant what he makes... so where does all the money go? if a person decides to receive $500,000 that's something else. greed, self interest

crispentine 'you attack him like he is a religion peddler'. 'christians will be persecuted' christians are PERSECUTED because of the GOSPEL not earning $500,000 / year. and if you are earning $500,000 / year the bible calls it greed. the gospel is FREE. christ did not charge anything. even when he was nailed on the cross. zaccheus gave half of his possession & paid back 4x to those h...more

crispentine

'you attack him like he is a religion peddler'.
'christians will be persecuted'

christians are PERSECUTED because of the GOSPEL not earning $500,000 / year.
and if you are earning $500,000 / year the bible calls it greed.
the gospel is FREE. christ did not charge anything. even when he was nailed on the cross.
zaccheus gave half of his possession & paid back 4x to those he think he cheated
john the baptist lived in the wilderness & ate grasshoppers
the disciples did not charge anything when they were preaching the gospel

Graham will continue to draw salary & benefits from SAMARitan's purse which totaled $535,000 in 2008.

it's funny, when people talk about self, preachers will say it is a sin but when they make $535,000 'don't judge them', they are persecuted.
if you don't want to be 'JUDGE' then practice what you preach. but what's funny is practice being a 'cafeteria christian'less

the same ted haggard who CONDEMN gays homosexuals.

stop trying to be someone else and discover who God made you to be. how can you discover the real you when the same $tupid christians will say 'DENY YOURSELF' SELF IS A SIN. i IS THE MIDDLE OF SIN. BEING A PERSON IN CHRISTIANITY IS A SIN. $tupid run another mile for your brethren, if you don't obey, god will punish you. TO BE A PERSON IN CHRISTIANITY IS A SIN then they will say DON'T ...more

stop trying to be someone else and discover who God made you to be.

how can you discover the real you when the same $tupid christians will say 'DENY YOURSELF' SELF IS A SIN. i IS THE MIDDLE OF SIN.

BEING A PERSON IN CHRISTIANITY IS A SIN. $tupid

run another mile for your brethren, if you don't obey, god will punish you.

TO BE A PERSON IN CHRISTIANITY IS A SIN then they will say DON'T BE SOMEONE ELSE' $tupid

by the way, I found out in luke that when christ saw a crippled woman he healed her on a SABBATH DAY which the 10 commandments said keep the sabbath holy. christ made a decision to heal & disobey the 10 commandments

. that is why the stupid pastor come running out & blowing his mouth 'ye not heal on a sabbath'less

reverse 'bad' christian image. how these pastors / televangelist SHOULD & MUST GET A regular 8-5 JOB & pay taxes. when they preach that self denial, then they should BE THE FIRST TO PRACTICE THAT VERSE and not be HYPOCRITES ABOUT IT. when they are at the job, they should run another mile for their customers work hard as if they are working for god be contented with $15.00 / hr BUT ...more

reverse 'bad' christian image. how

these pastors / televangelist SHOULD & MUST GET A regular 8-5 JOB & pay taxes. when they preach that self denial, then they should BE THE FIRST TO PRACTICE THAT VERSE and not be HYPOCRITES ABOUT IT.

when they are at the job, they should run another mile for their customers
work hard as if they are working for god
be contented with $15.00 / hr

BUT

pastors PREACH SELF DENIAL / SELF IS A SIN or BE CONTENTED WITH WHAT YOU HAVE but you see them live in mansions & drive luxury cars. it is a sin to think of your'self' but don't judge them when they make $100,000/ year salary. FRICKING HYPOCRITES!!!!less

hmm... funny I remember in the 1980s US president Ronald reagan supported Philippine dictator Ferdinand marcos with guns & money. marcos was brutal corrupt. while 90% of the philippines in below the poverty, marcos & his cronies were making millions & having fun with parties & luxurious lifestyle. many spoke against this dictator only to be murdered, beheaded, tortured, censored. in 1986, ther...more

hmm... funny I remember in the 1980s US president Ronald reagan supported Philippine dictator Ferdinand marcos with guns & money. marcos was brutal corrupt. while 90% of the philippines in below the poverty, marcos & his cronies were making millions & having fun with parties & luxurious lifestyle. many spoke against this dictator only to be murdered, beheaded, tortured, censored.

in 1986, there was a 'snap election' the people protect ballots from the guns & goons of the dictator and when the counting started the people encountered vote buying, intimidation. then reagan accused both sides of cheating. people revolted went to the streets by the 100 thousands facing tanks, guns. and finally he left.less

christ wants them to prosper? televangelist are good in exploiting not a message from god. 2 peter 2:3 these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories.

angela funny, zaccheus after meeting christ said ' here & now I will give half of my possessions & if I have cheated anybody out of anything I will pay back 4x the amount. I have heard that tactic before using the 'YE NOT JUDGE' verse to justify sin. why? did christ own a worldly materials & paid to preach the gospel? john the baptist lived in the wilderness & ate grasshoppers. seems to m...more

angela

funny, zaccheus after meeting christ said ' here & now I will give half of my possessions & if I have cheated anybody out of anything I will pay back 4x the amount.

I have heard that tactic before using the 'YE NOT JUDGE' verse to justify sin. why? did christ own a worldly materials & paid to preach the gospel? john the baptist lived in the wilderness & ate grasshoppers.
seems to me you are a cafeteria christian.

and I just looked up charities with lowest paid CEOs & all god's children is paid only $10,000 year. that is practicing what they preach.less

Franklin graham earned $600,000 as president of billy graham evangelistic association & another $400,000 from his 2nd job as president of samaritan purse. if you call yourselves 'christian' why make 100s of thousands / year? then preach or talk about the spirit of 'anti christ'

HYPOCRITE!! salaries of 'christians' billy graham - $406,000 william graham IIi - $400,000 jack van impe - $200,000 charles stanley - $123,000 YEAH RIGHT, don't worry. if you are making $100,000 / year YOU WON"T worry

why don't you tell that to televangelist like benny hinn, copeland, dollar, pat robertson, mayer rich televangelist who make $100,000 / year. they have BEEN rich & they have deceived people & they are bad witness. aren't they rich? finally, it is funny that sin seems to be selective. the people should not be doing what you are doing but don't judge you when you desire to be rich. HYPOCRIT...more

why don't you tell that to televangelist like benny hinn, copeland, dollar, pat robertson, mayer rich televangelist who make $100,000 / year. they have BEEN rich & they have deceived people & they are bad witness.

aren't they rich?

finally, it is funny that sin seems to be selective. the people should not be doing what you are doing but don't judge you when you desire to be rich. HYPOCRITEless

what about greed in the church MR graham? it seems you don't want to mention that. benny hinn, copeland, pat robertson, joyce meyer, creflo dollar

ketch 22 'Tell that to the men and women who were mass murdered by this dictator. If you see a bully picking on somebody and do nothing, you are as bad as the bully.' really, didn't your president reagan supported saddam & other dictators in the 80s like noriega & marcos? why didn't you 'take out' the dictators? rumsfled even shook hands with 'the brutal dictator' saddam. so it's like the b...more

ketch 22

'Tell that to the men and women who were mass murdered by this dictator. If you see a bully picking on somebody and do nothing, you are as bad as the bully.'

really, didn't your president reagan supported saddam & other dictators in the 80s like noriega & marcos? why didn't you 'take out' the dictators? rumsfled even shook hands with 'the brutal dictator' saddam. so it's like the bully is beating somebody but reagan said 'they are our allies' you were too busy partying to know. there is your sin of commission.

Even very liberal thinkers who hated Bush admit that he probably believed there were WMDs... he was either lied to or believed faulty intel...

so if an intel told bush to jump is he going to ask 'HOW HIGH'?
if an intel told bush to run 'HOW FAR'?
if the intel told bush to jump off a cliff 'which cliff?less

mr graham have you not read history? the union of church & state is DANGEROUS. when carafa became Pope Paul iv he instituted the catholic dogma of extra ecclesiam nula salus (outside the church there is no salvation) that started the INQUISITION. which mean those who oppose him can be imprisoned. why was there persecution of the JEWs (NOT CHRISTIANS) during the middle ages? bec the CHRISTIAN...more

mr graham have you not read history? the union of church & state is DANGEROUS.
when carafa became Pope Paul iv he instituted the catholic dogma of extra ecclesiam nula salus (outside the church there is no salvation) that started the INQUISITION. which mean those who oppose him can be imprisoned.

why was there persecution of the JEWs (NOT CHRISTIANS) during the middle ages? bec the CHRISTIANS began to accept that the JEWISH people as a whole were responsible for killing christ. they have committed a sin of DEICIDE or god killing and for 1900 years this charge has led to HATRED, VIOLENCE & murder of JEWS (not christians) in europe & america. this persecution peaked during the crusades started in 1096.

and recently alabama gov robert bently said that if you have not accepted christ 'you are not my 'brother' or 'sister'. so if a person from israel visits alabama, will that person be IMPRISONED bec. he or she is a jew & not a christian?

will you support a 'religious leader' who pass a bill to FORCE (not accept) people to be christians & if not they will be imprisoned, tortured? christianity is morphing into a state sponsored religion not a spreading of a gospel.less