CEOs who make $100,000 / year in charity & NON PROFIT organizations. use the suffering for profit.

graceman so how is that related to being unique & have your own personhood? good works? so christianity IS performance & define good works. anybody can say 'I am doing good works' but they make their own decision & they justify that it is good works. I don't see the new creation in christians. i left christianity and I don't see christians deny their sinful carnal nature. if they do, then th...more

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so how is that related to being unique & have your own personhood? good works? so christianity IS performance & define good works. anybody can say 'I am doing good works' but they make their own decision & they justify that it is good works. I don't see the new creation in christians.

i left christianity and I don't see christians deny their sinful carnal nature. if they do, then they are living like monks.but NO, I see & read about christians & pastors driving luxury cars, living in multi million $$$ homes? is that denying carnal sinful nature?less

I’m a slave but I’ve become a friend and a son and a citizen and a joint heir and I reign with him I'VE BECOME A FRIEND? A SON? A CITIZEN? JOINT HEIR? that is not what you hear at church. they say it but when the rubber meets the road, all you hear is the failure, the accusations of sin, the 'obedience' clause (give your 10%), full of performance to work on the TO DO LIST & all these ar...more

I’m a slave but I’ve become a friend and a son and a citizen and a joint heir and I reign with him

I'VE BECOME A FRIEND? A SON? A CITIZEN? JOINT HEIR?

that is not what you hear at church. they say it but when the rubber meets the road, all you hear is the failure, the accusations of sin, the 'obedience' clause (give your 10%), full of performance to work on the TO DO LIST & all these are based on 'blessings'.
'that is a sin'
that is not biblical
you lack faith
that is not how you interpret the bible
you did not obey
be contented with what you have
YOU FAILEd
YOU DID IT TO YOURSELF
YOU HAVE THE PROBLEM
give your 10%
instead of welcoming you HOME, you are BLAMED, ACCUSED, BRAINWASHED & driven away.

thank you very muchless

if we were created with our UNIQUE personalities & personhood then why are we forced to be someone we're not? that is TRUE... you COVER up yourself; that is not be the person you are created .

christians DO NOT KNOW WHAT FORGIVENESS is. how can you act & give FORGIVENESS when your message is a message of DOOM, GLOOM, curse, punishment, DISOBEDIENCE. how can you act & give FORGIVENESS when ACCUSATION & JUDGEMENTS is a routine message during sunday service FORGIVENESS? when you disagree with the pastor, he will add that famous formula DISOBEDIENCE = SIN & god will punish you for y...more

christians DO NOT KNOW WHAT FORGIVENESS is. how can you act & give FORGIVENESS when your message is a message of DOOM, GLOOM, curse, punishment, DISOBEDIENCE.

how can you act & give FORGIVENESS when ACCUSATION & JUDGEMENTS is a routine message during sunday service

FORGIVENESS?
when you disagree with the pastor, he will add that famous formula DISOBEDIENCE = SIN & god will punish you for your disobedience & sin.less

You need to start at the bottom and just celebrate the glory of God-especially near the cross, because these people are going to need forgiveness FORGIVENESS? after the tithe bag has been passed & money collected, the brainwashing begins. sin, sin, sin. full of accusations, full of condemnation, full of curse. is that what you call FORGIVENESS? with that kind of message NO WONDER there are ...more

You need to start at the bottom and just celebrate the glory of God-especially near the cross, because these people are going to need forgiveness

FORGIVENESS? after the tithe bag has been passed & money collected, the brainwashing begins. sin, sin, sin. full of accusations, full of condemnation, full of curse.

is that what you call FORGIVENESS? with that kind of message NO WONDER there are dead churchES.
if you don't obey, god will punish you
if you don;t give your 10%, god will not bless you
if you don't this, god will do that
if you don't that, god will not this

is that love, forgiveness? it cultivates fear, guilt, shame, blame.

and that is why christian DO NOT KNOW what is forgiveness bec. they deliver the message of curse.less

cjfromfdl I got that 'disinformation' from christianity and it's obvious that you are obeying blindly. lol. boo hooo hooo

there is now freedom in the middle east. history records that when a corrupt & brutal dictator is removed those replacing them will be the same - CORRUPT & BRUTAL.

God wants all that we are and all that we have.... 2 Peter 2:3 in their greed they will make up clever lies to get hold of your money. isaiah 56:11 they are dogs with mighty appetites they never have enough they are shepherds who lack understanding & they all turn to their own way, each seeks his own gain.

But don't let your pride, or anything else, keep you from asking for the prayers of those who love Christ. it's not pride but ridicule & accusations that kept me from axking. they will point to sin & its like axking for a fish & you are given a snake.

When we ignore God's rules and live any way we want to, however, we end up only hurting ourselves. "There is a way that seems right to a man (or woman), but in the end it leads to death" (Proverbs 16:25). is deciding to make $100,000 /year + other benefits god's best or your best? will it hurt ourselves? yes. that seems to be right to a man to make $100,000/year & it will give you peace & joy...more

When we ignore God's rules and live any way we want to, however, we end up only hurting ourselves.
"There is a way that seems right to a man (or woman), but in the end it leads to death" (Proverbs 16:25).

is deciding to make $100,000 /year + other benefits god's best or your best? will it hurt ourselves?
yes. that seems to be right to a man to make $100,000/year & it will give you peace & joy.

open your heart and life to Jesus Christ, who alone can give you the peace and joy you're seeking.

instead of choosing to work for $11.00 / hr dealing with irate black customers, dealing with politics, lazy co workers is miserable for you.less

When we ignore God's rules and live any way we want to, however, we end up only hurting ourselves. REALLY? is deciding to make $100,000 / year end up hurting ourself. that's not hurting ourselves but that's the BEST salary pastors & televangelist to make. God didn't tell us how to live because He hates us or wants to make us miserable. mr graham is obeying god to get an $11.00/ hr job...more

When we ignore God's rules and live any way we want to, however, we end up only hurting ourselves.
REALLY?
is deciding to make $100,000 / year end up hurting ourself.

that's not hurting ourselves but that's the BEST salary pastors & televangelist to make.

God didn't tell us how to live because He hates us or wants to make us miserable.

mr graham is obeying god to get an $11.00/ hr job can be miserable for you.less

God didn't tell us how to live because He hates us or wants to make us miserable let's see: don't lean on unto to your understanding, it is lack of faith. deny yourself, self is a sin you did it to yourself, you did not obey the word of god. give your 10% & god will bless you. that is not how you interpret the bible that is not biblical the reason why you are suffering bec. you SINNED...more

God didn't tell us how to live because He hates us or wants to make us miserable

let's see:
don't lean on unto to your understanding, it is lack of faith.
deny yourself, self is a sin
you did it to yourself, you did not obey the word of god.
give your 10% & god will bless you.
that is not how you interpret the bible
that is not biblical
the reason why you are suffering bec. you SINNED.

I obeyed 10% & got brainwashed. is that the BEST?
wasted 25 years obeying malachi, obeying to be a floormat. is that the BEST?
when you disagree about a verse you are accused. is that the BEST

finally, 900 people died in jonestown obeying. is that the BEST?

is that what you call the good news?

When we ignore God's rules and live any way we want to, however, we end up only hurting ourselves

obey our gov't authorities.
those soldiers that died in iraq followed bush's orders. is that the BEST?less

puffed up church. they push away those who are in NEED. instead of helping they are stumbling blocks, adding more problem, enslaving.

arzintine 'Many folks have the idea they can perfect themselves by doing good works and performances' where did they get that idea? from the church & pastors that deliver the 'good news'. the messages i heard were sin, you did not obey the word of god. give your 10% & god will bless you; if not god will not open the doors of heaven you lack faith deny yourself; self is a sin don't rel...more

arzintine

'Many folks have the idea they can perfect themselves by doing good works and performances'

where did they get that idea? from the church & pastors that deliver the 'good news'. the messages i heard were
sin, you did not obey the word of god.
give your 10% & god will bless you; if not god will not open the doors of heaven
you lack faith
deny yourself; self is a sin
don't rely on your own strength
don't lean unto to your understanding
let go let god
everything is a sin & the reason you failed is you did it to yourself
run another mile for your brethren
be contented with what you have but you are worst than an unbeliever bec. you cannot provide for your family
don't judge pastors when they make $100,000 / year
that is not biblical.

so do you think that these statements from the 'body of christ' will not create the idea of perfection through works?less

ipepperw christians don't have chip on their shoulders too?

it seems obvious that MR john macarthur has not experienced the injustice, brutal treatment of dictators. you & your tea party are biatching about the tax, gov't regulations & you write an article about submitting to powers. why don't you and the tea party submit to the present authorities? and this 'freedom & democracy' protest in the middle east did not start from the BUSH DOCTRINE of pre e...more

it seems obvious that MR john macarthur has not experienced the injustice, brutal treatment of dictators. you & your tea party are biatching about the tax, gov't regulations & you write an article about submitting to powers. why don't you and the tea party submit to the present authorities?

and this 'freedom & democracy' protest in the middle east did not start from the BUSH DOCTRINE of pre emptive attack. but from a tunisian who was fed up of gov't corruption. a municipal officlal confiscated his scale worth $100 that he use to sell fruits to support his family.

why don't you try the same mr macarthur? but you peddle the word of god for profit. you won't put up with an income that barely supports your family & obama would make your situation more difficult. you would be in the streets protesting & disobeying to 'submit to authorities'.

but your answer would be pointing to 'SIN' as always. without any understanding to those who are living in unfortunate circumstances. why bec. you are making 100s of thousands of $$$. that is why your 'holiness' equates your 'blessings'less

you televangelist DON'T WANT TO pay your taxes. keep on exempting yourselves. so which commandment are you disobeying now.

arzantine Im narrow minded. hmm...that's funny bec. i got that narrow mindedness from chrsitianity.

rev so where did the sabbath law come from? isn't it from the 10 commandments that god gave to moses?