2theotherside you can't believe everything you see on TV. first we are told to OBEY & if you don't OBEY you are an arrogant sinner and if you say 'don't believe everything you see on TV' then what's the point of those televangelist on TV.

graceman then why are we told to deny our 'selves'. selves are PERSOn but christianity has DEMONIZED IT & call it SIN & we are told to live a perfect life. that perfect life makes us ROBOTS & destroys the PERSON who we are.

#6 – Because no one ever achieved anything great for the Lord that didn’t first have to overcome unbelievable opposition; in fact, great opposition usually means great opportunity! (See I Corinthians 16:9) how can you achieve great opportunity when you are brainwashed? I was brainwashed in believing MALACHI & 10%. I heard from churches that when you give your 10% you will succeed & receive ...more

#6 – Because no one ever achieved anything great for the Lord that didn’t first have to overcome unbelievable opposition; in fact, great opposition usually means great opportunity! (See I Corinthians 16:9)

how can you achieve great opportunity when you are brainwashed? I was brainwashed in believing MALACHI & 10%. I heard from churches that when you give your 10% you will succeed & receive OPPORTUNITIES.
you don;t succeed & receive opportunities when you give your 10%. YOu succeed & receive opportunities bec. you WORK HARD & use your skills.less

don't give up?? do you continue to be brainwashed & continue obeying blindly? I guess that is why 900 people died in jonestown & waco tx.

never trust a man of god who does not have a limp but TRUST A MAN OF GOD WHO makes $100,000 / year, lives in a multi million $$$$ mansion, drives a luxury car & flys a private jet to preach the gospel

Indigenous Ecuadoran woman humbles US oil giant FROM YAHOO maria aguinda helped bring a landmark judgement againts US oil giant chevron for polluting the rain forest she calls home chevron was slapped last week with a $9.5 BILLION FINE among heaviest handed down form environmental damage for more info. pls read Yahoo Pat robertson will say This woman is a socialist. she wants mon...more

Indigenous Ecuadoran woman humbles US oil giant

FROM YAHOO

maria aguinda helped bring a landmark judgement againts US oil giant chevron for polluting the rain forest she calls home

chevron was slapped last week with a $9.5 BILLION FINE among heaviest handed down form environmental damage

for more info. pls read Yahoo

Pat robertson will say

This woman is a socialist. she wants money & she is ANTI BUSINESS that will destroy jobs. I don't know about this doctrine of assasination and we ought to do it. it is a lot cheaper than paying this woman $9 BILLION. this woman is dangerous & will bring communism in this area. we have that ability to take her out & we should ought to.less

why do you need to pray republicans & oil companies are raking in billions. the price of oil is $100.00 / barrel

what are you worried about MORE MONEY FOR THE OIL COMPANIES. the price of oil is $100 / barrel

Indigenous Ecuadoran woman humbles US oil giant FROM YAHOO maria aguinda helped bring a landmark judgement againts US oil giant chevron for polluting the rain forest she calls home chevron was slapped last week with a $9.5 BILLION FINE among heaviest handed down form environmental damage for more info. pls read Yahoo Pat robertson will say This woman is a socialist. she wants mon...more

Indigenous Ecuadoran woman humbles US oil giant

FROM YAHOO

maria aguinda helped bring a landmark judgement againts US oil giant chevron for polluting the rain forest she calls home

chevron was slapped last week with a $9.5 BILLION FINE among heaviest handed down form environmental damage

for more info. pls read Yahoo

Pat robertson will say

This woman is a socialist. she wants money & she is ANTI BUSINESS that will destroy jobs. I don't know about this doctrine of assasination and we ought to do it. it is a lot cheaper than paying this woman $9 BILLION. this woman is dangerous & will bring communism in this area. we have that ability to take her out & we should ought to.less

Indigenous Ecuadoran woman humbles US oil giant FROM YAHOO maria aguinda helped bring a landmark judgement againts US oil giant chevron for polluting the rain forest she calls home chevron was slapped last week with a $9.5 BILLION FINE among heaviest handed down form environmental damage for more info. pls read Yahoo Pat robertson will say This woman is a socialist. she wants mon...more

Indigenous Ecuadoran woman humbles US oil giant

FROM YAHOO

maria aguinda helped bring a landmark judgement againts US oil giant chevron for polluting the rain forest she calls home

chevron was slapped last week with a $9.5 BILLION FINE among heaviest handed down form environmental damage

for more info. pls read Yahoo

Pat robertson will say

This woman is a socialist. she wants money & she is ANTI BUSINESS that will destroy jobs. I don't know about this doctrine of assasination and we ought to do it. it is a lot cheaper than paying this woman $9 BILLION. this woman is dangerous & will bring communism in this area. we have that ability to take her out & we should ought to.less

Indigenous Ecuadoran woman humbles US oil giant FROM YAHOO maria aguinda helped bring a landmark judgement againts US oil giant chevron for polluting the rain forest she calls home chevron was slapped last week with a $9.5 BILLION FINE among heaviest handed down form environmental damage for more info. pls read Yahoo Pat robertson will say This woman is a socialist. she wants mon...more

Indigenous Ecuadoran woman humbles US oil giant

FROM YAHOO

maria aguinda helped bring a landmark judgement againts US oil giant chevron for polluting the rain forest she calls home

chevron was slapped last week with a $9.5 BILLION FINE among heaviest handed down form environmental damage

for more info. pls read Yahoo

Pat robertson will say

This woman is a socialist. she wants money & she is ANTI BUSINESS that will destroy jobs. I don't know about this doctrine of assasination and we ought to do it. it is a lot cheaper than paying this woman $9 BILLION. this woman is dangerous & will bring communism in this area. we have that ability to take her out & we should ought to.less

WHY DON'T YOU WARN THEM OF GREED, ARROGANCE, power, position. I have seen Pat robertson rack up millions & millions of $$$; defend his beloved sinless holy republican party, bash everybody with sin & love his seat with presidents & political celebrities. sin is not selective. it is not less in the GOP party but greater in another

graceman christianity is a relationship? then why is acceptance based on performance not love. you are given weekly 'TO DO' list. why do christians pastors tell you to DENY YOURSELF. you cant have a relationship when self(person) is removed frmo the equation when you try to be a PERSON who you are you are stifled and from the verse you quoted where does it say relationship? and the re...more

graceman

christianity is a relationship?
then why is acceptance based on performance not love. you are given weekly 'TO DO' list.
why do christians pastors tell you to DENY YOURSELF. you cant have a relationship when self(person) is removed frmo the equation
when you try to be a PERSON who you are you are stifled

and from the verse you quoted where does it say relationship?
and the reason why people CANNOT do anything not bec. they are not christians or christians but they lack skills, knowledge & understanding. common sense has been replace with religious exploitation.
I held to that faith & 'truth' that I can do ALL things but I was laid off after 3 months. why? is it bec. I did not give my 10%? or is it lack of skill, knowledge & understanding of my work
and I have seen how pastors televangelist manipulate, & exploit people that is why they can say that 'christ' strengthened me.'less

christianity is a relationship not religion BUT DENY YOURSELF. the more you divorce yourself from the world the holier you become christianity is a relationship not performance BUT do this, do that, be a servant & work yourself to exhaustion god gave us free will but OBEY, dont think for yourself about yourself of yourself for it is a SIn; remember adam & eve they made their own decision ...more

christianity is a relationship not religion BUT DENY YOURSELF. the more you divorce yourself from the world the holier you become

christianity is a relationship not performance BUT do this, do that, be a servant & work yourself to exhaustion

god gave us free will but OBEY, dont think for yourself about yourself of yourself for it is a SIn; remember adam & eve they made their own decision

GRACE is free but CEOs working at non profit organization are paid $100,000 / year + other benefits

christians should be contented with what they have but pastors should live in multi million $$$ homes, drive luxury cars

christianity is UNCONDITIONAL love but you should do what I tell you if not you are an arrogant sinner.

christians say love the sinner hate the sin but all you hear is YOU sin, that is a sin, it is a sin, that is not biblical; and by the way don't judge me.

christians say 'don't lean on to your understanding' so when you fail, they accuse you of LACK OF FAITH.

christianity say 'don't question the word of god just obey' but when people suffer, you are told 'you did it to yourself'

christians say that grace is GREATER THAN SIN but when you ask about suffering, IT IS SIN.less

then christianity is NOT a relationship BUT performance & works.

so then christianity is NOT a relationship but works & performance.

'OK mr robertson, what did new zealand do to deserve the wrath of god, make a deal with the devil as haiti had done? i await your answer to learn.' it seems pretty obvious that extremism has been replace with common sense, compassion from the fundamental teachings of mr robertson. that is why it is impossible to talk to a christian. their formula is disobedience= sin give your 10% = ble...more

'OK mr robertson, what did new zealand do to deserve the wrath of god, make a deal with the devil as haiti had done? i await your answer to learn.'

it seems pretty obvious that extremism has been replace with common sense, compassion from the fundamental teachings of mr robertson.

that is why it is impossible to talk to a christian. their formula is
disobedience= sin
give your 10% = blessingsless

louiseCa Pat robertson bashes everybody that does not agree with his agenda. remember these comments when the democrats won in 2006 he said there will be a mass murder in 2007 we should assasinate chavez god smite sharon for giving the land the liberals caused 911 (agreeing with falwell) he puts money & politics ahead instead of the teachings of christ

junior 93.% but they don't want to say how much they are making. did christ, john the baptist, paul, christ disciples charge or make 1000 golden coins, live in mansions, ride in golden chariots pulled by white stallions? it seems pretty obvious that they are cafeteria christians who cherry pick the bible for their own personal financial gain. let's preach the gospel in a mercedes 850 lu...more

junior

93.% but they don't want to say how much they are making. did christ, john the baptist, paul, christ disciples charge or make 1000 golden coins, live in mansions, ride in golden chariots pulled by white stallions?

it seems pretty obvious that they are cafeteria christians who cherry pick the bible for their own personal financial gain.

let's preach the gospel in a mercedes 850 luxury car
let's do non-profit, charity work but I should get paid $100,000/year .
give your 10% (not work & sharpen your skills) so you will receive $10,000 in return

but other than that DON'T JUDGE ME.less

In Luke 13, christ DISOBEYED the sabbath law bec healed the crippled woman. does that make him a 'sinner' bec. he disobeyed god as many pastors televangelist would say disobedience is 'SIN'? many times christ did NOT listen to the '$tupid' teachings of the pharisees, synagogue leader. does that make him arrogant, prideful & not a SERVANT? what about when he DISOBEYED the stoning of the woma...more

In Luke 13, christ DISOBEYED the sabbath law bec healed the crippled woman. does that make him a 'sinner' bec. he disobeyed god as many pastors televangelist would say disobedience is 'SIN'?

many times christ did NOT listen to the '$tupid' teachings of the pharisees, synagogue leader. does that make him arrogant, prideful & not a SERVANT?

what about when he DISOBEYED the stoning of the woman caught in adultery. is christ a sinner when he spoke up for himself?

just bec. you did not agree with a pastor, YOU ARE labeled a sinner, arrogant, prideful & not being a servant.less