Megachurch Pastor Guides Christians on Alcohol, R-Rated Movies

newcreation »

Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:52 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Let this not become a red herring like so many of your points are but... let this be seperate so help me


Yahweh? Yea that's God's name ... are you a JW or something? Or do you just think that multiple wives are cool .... yeah you know what im drivin at

Megachurch Pastor Guides Christians on Alcohol, R-Rated Movies

newcreation »

Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:45 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

And robutusion my friend ? What a red herring If i ever heard of one.

have fun leading people to the bleak grey area of christianity.

Sinking sand? To resort to that is just pathetic. My argument is the furthest thing from sinking sand ...

In America (like I said) you drink to get drunk ... if you as a Christian try to make a revolution of CONGRADULATIONS YOU CAN HAVE A BEER but (not two if your a small girl you could get buzzed ... how drunk is drunk?)

you can have that and keep that and infect people like that if you wish--

robotusion or however you spell that? sinking sand? Talk about logical fallicies.

And I'm so glad that you've decided to tell the world that ONE BEER GUYS ITS SOOO IMPORTANT!!! again what a sad thing to defend .... "what do you defend" oh well See i get to show people I CAN HAVE ONE BEER and keep my SINKING ego at the same time because this alchohal conversation really kicks mine up.

Megachurch Pastor Guides Christians on Alcohol, R-Rated Movies

newcreation »

Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:37 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

Wow... That's my goal in life...

to show the world how close to drunk as I can get ... God bless the U.S.A.

ya know I know personal experience is never the best argument bla bla bla but my old friend never intended to get drunk one timee just had a beer that is it drove over to a friends partie (one beer) then it led to another and another and another and then good christian girl lost her virginity now she is lost in the world big time.

If your "Super" goal is to show the world that you can have WOW one beer and WOW drive and not get drunk because you have control over you mind... that's the type of Christian story I want to tell everyone ...

America is tired of people trying to prove things to them and straddling the fence with God -- God has called us to live hardcore radical lives that is EXTREMELY different than the unbeliever's mr peabody.

Megachurch Pastor Guides Christians on Alcohol, R-Rated Movies

newcreation »

Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:57 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

So the motivation behind drinking alcohol and defending it is because you enjoy the taste of a "good beer." The typical American stumbling block. One has to wonder if they had a different culture in the new testament and now. In America the overwhelming populous to drink is to get drunk. It's people like you that make the Christian walk look hypocrytical. I rest my case.

Megachurch Pastor Guides Christians on Alcohol, R-Rated Movies

newcreation »

Fri Aug 14, 2009 2:15 am Agree: 9   Disagree: 0

While I would happily discuss the merrits of alcohol what is of greater presidence is the motivation behind its consumption. The consumption is a symptom of underlying issues. So tell me this why is it so important for you to justify the consumption of alcohol?

Megachurch Pastor Guides Christians on Alcohol, R-Rated Movies

newcreation »

Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:01 pm Agree: 14   Disagree: 1

The Bible does teach total abstinence from alcohol. Both the main Hebrew word for wine and the Greek word for wine can mean either fermented grape juice or intoxicating wine. The English word wine originally had two meanings also - unfermented juice or alcoholic drink.
2) In the Bible, verses to show God approves of wine are speaking about unfermented juice. Verses that expose the evils of wine are speaking about intoxicating wine.
3) The Bible says alcoholic drink is evil. It is not just the amount one drinks that makes drinking a sin. God condemns the drink itself. (Prov 20:1 KJV) Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.
4) God does not lead us into evil; He delivers us from it. He does not teach us to practice evil in moderation. Jesus did not make, use, approve, commend, or tell us to use intoxicating wine.
5) God made man to have fellowship with Him. Alcohol goes directly to the brain, the communication center of the body. It interferes with God’s purpose for mankind.
And so when preachers address the issue as grey either their ignorant of looking for a church full of back patters saying “it’s ok to do certain things … all I care about is having an attendance of thousands”

Megachurch Pastor Guides Christians on Alcohol, R-Rated Movies

newcreation »

Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:01 pm Agree: 8   Disagree: 0

2nd 1 timothy 5:23 has been a great downfall in the believers life because of their misrepresentation and lack of understanding regarding the verse. Paul says a little wine will do good for the stomach (talking to timothy here)… well prior to this verse Paul said for deacons and bishops to abstain from alcohol and being drunk. If it is wrong for one to be given to wine and yet he says have a little for the stomach it probably was not alcoholic giving that Paul said do not let sin have even an appearance in your life and not to have a stumbling block of the sort (Romans 14) I doubt he was talking out of both sides of his mouth but rather was referring to grape, pomegranate, pear or apple juices “wine”If kings and priests were to abstain from wine then who are we? Does not the Bible proclaim that the Most Holy of Holies resides and has made his permanent dwelling place within us (Eph 2) John (14). Why does proverbs 23 say that one should not even look at wine when it is fermented? Why is John the Baptist forbidden to have strong drink? Perhaps we are the temple of the holy sprit and Jesus is the New wine. When Jesus said do this in remembrance of me he told them to drink of the cup of wine… if memory serves Jesus would not say remember me from alcohol which prohibits proper memory function.

Megachurch Pastor Guides Christians on Alcohol, R-Rated Movies

newcreation »

Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:00 pm Agree: 12   Disagree: 2

Sure thing Old student and Believer.

Firstly in the Old Testament (and New alike) a lot of times their wells were not deep enough to attain “good water” meaning they used feces sprinklings on the soil and to avoid methane contamination. In the Old they would have their children drink the wine too to avoid such contamination. They would use Grapes, pomegranates, pears and even apples what ever was available or imported.

There is more Scripture condemning the use of alcoholic beverages than will be found on the subjects of lying, adultery, swearing, cheating, hypocrisy, pride, or even blasphemy.

But I will go even further and reveal Jesus never drank alcoholic wine nor his disciples promoted alcoholic wine.

1st argument that will arise is the wedding at Cana. Well here’s the deal if memory serves me correctly Jesus was a Nazarene and drank nothing from the vines. When Jesus made the water into wine the people exclaimed that usually they saved this type until the end of the feast. Non-alcoholic wine fits this description in the Jewish wedding. The young were drinking this wine and the people marveled that the wine tasted fruity… fermented wine does not taste fruity.

Christian Band MercyMe Involved in Fatal Car Accident

newcreation »

Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:02 pm Agree: 7   Disagree: 5

all things work out for his purpose FOR THOSE WHO LOVE HIM mr jehovanissi

stop putting things on God and saying awful things on this bleak sad post

Christian Band MercyMe Involved in Fatal Car Accident

newcreation »

Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:59 pm Agree: 8   Disagree: 3

Ya know people that blame this on God have a skewed view on his love.

God is soverign but everything that happens isn't his will.

Like this. When Jesus died it forever satisfied the wrath of God on man. I will be praying for everyone involved including the possible misrepresentation of God and making him out to sound like a complete jerk.

Creation Museum Still Draws Crowds, Ruffles Feathers After 2 Years

newcreation »

Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:55 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Wanna trump any "evolutionary debate"?

yea drdino.com you bet.

Erik Hovid and Kent Hovids dvds nail permanent nails to evolutionary coffins

Maine Gay Marriage Supporters, Opponents Agree to Civil Campaigns

newcreation »

Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:52 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

Umm if you have questions about the Bible google esword and see things in the greek

also John 1:1 is very profound regarding who the Word is!

Palin: I Identify with the Average American Struggles

newcreation »

Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:42 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

Palin/Gingrich 2012!

2 Episcopal Dioceses Announce Openly Gay Ministers as Nominees for Bishop

newcreation »

Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:43 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 4

Romans 1


endgame.

Survey Finds More Hispanic Americans Becoming Protestant

newcreation »

Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:33 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

Praise God! I pray for hispanics very often. I think there culture pushes a catholosism religion into their thinking but often never penetrates their decisions or make Christ their personal Lord and Saviour.

Pull the Lever for Jesus, Says Mega-Pastor

newcreation »

Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:07 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Well hopefully that cliche' actually works on the people who thinks Obama is God's right hand man because he would be the first black president? How about along with pulling the lever for Jesus (in my case I filled out circles with a pencil :) but anyways) putting God before coor and principle before race?

Obama: Life 'Difficult' Without Church Community

newcreation »

Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:57 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

Mr. Obama I'm sure you miss Jermiah Wright's church hearing all of those quotes like "White folks greed makes a world in need" "America the kkk" "America's chicken's coming home to roost" "No no no not God bless america God **** America" yea that one? The preacher whom you attended church at for 20 years let baptize your kids and never said a word? I would miss that too.

Megachurch Pastor Guides Christians on Alcohol, R-Rated Movies

newcreation »

Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:46 pm Agree: 17   Disagree: 3

Lord purge my heart with hyssop. No slight criticism? I regret so. First of all this is all in Love. Alcohal is addressed way more in the Bible than gluttoney. Of course our Christian Liberty is not to flirt with sin. But how drunk is drunk mr. preacher? How many times is the word wine used in the new testament? Did you know there are different words for wine in the greek that were translated into english? Yup. Let the little foxes in and you get a mega church. I mean a spoiled vineyard.