Great insults. Very mature and Christian. Carry on.

@jrcp: You are right. And almost four decades of research in Europe, Canada and more recently, the US, does back up your point that sexual orientation has zero to do with your parenting skills. The children of GLBT parents are as well-adjusted and happy as other kids and some of these studies have followed them into adulthood.

It was quoted by the National Enquirer, a Canadian newspaper, and an Italian news service that Benny Hinn checked into the hotel under an assumed name. Why? Is he so popular he was afraid of being mobbed by his fans? Ridiculous. Divorce, murder, sexual accusations, graft,...and all they will say is 'the devil is working overtime to stop this ministry'. It's not persecution for the gospel. It'...more

It was quoted by the National Enquirer, a Canadian newspaper, and an Italian news service that Benny Hinn checked into the hotel under an assumed name. Why? Is he so popular he was afraid of being mobbed by his fans? Ridiculous. Divorce, murder, sexual accusations, graft,...and all they will say is 'the devil is working overtime to stop this ministry'. It's not persecution for the gospel. It's the devil alright. They allow him to play their vanity like Eve in the garden and convince them their behavior is acceptable to God because of Jesus bleeding to death. They don't crucify themselves daily. they crucify Jesus over and over again by the actions. We are called by the Bible to recognize these super rich false prophets and not be fooled. Why do they need to take money from people on fixed incomes and live in a 1/7 million dollar home? They read like the false prophets in the book of Jeremiah.less

USAsoccer: "Gents:I have more I.Q. in my left pinkie, then all of you combined..." ROTFL. ROTFL. ROTFL. That was a good one. Carry on.

@2theotherside: That verse fits those who force children to be stuck in orphanages when loving people want to adopt them into good homes.

The problem comes in when you debase others for the sake of your truth, LakeShoreChurch. What does the bible say about pride self-righteousness and humility? You're doing more harm to your cause than you realize.

First the anti-gay groups use scare tactics to get voters to vote against marriage equality for gays, then they pass a ballot measure that says gays can't be adoptive parents because they aren't married. Wow, no wonder the state supreme court ruled the way they did.

Johnson - Ehrman may have his opinion but there are others also with impressive credentials who believe the scriptures are accurate as they are. Sometimes there may appear to be contradictions but are really just different aspects of the same event. For instance in the Book of Matthew, Judas Iscariot hangs himself while in the Book of Acts it says he fell into a field where his insides burst open....more

Johnson - Ehrman may have his opinion but there are others also with impressive credentials who believe the scriptures are accurate as they are. Sometimes there may appear to be contradictions but are really just different aspects of the same event. For instance in the Book of Matthew, Judas Iscariot hangs himself while in the Book of Acts it says he fell into a field where his insides burst open. Well, isn't it possible he hanged himself, then the branch broke and he fell to his death causing his insides to burst open upon impact on the ground? Problem solved!!less

bob, religion is in fact a matter of interpretation and opinion, really no basis in fact- religion is referred to as faith, not fact..........the problem with religion as I see it, guess thats why I'm attracted to science - fact based.

The recent experience with USAsoccer may be also further evaluated in the broader context of my previous rout of the Baptist Champion posting under the ID "mathetes" (most of the personal archives on "mathetes" history here have since been deleted). He had an impressive resume as well: > B.A. > Three masters > Ph.D. > Instructor status a at Baptist university When I outwitted him with ...more

The recent experience with USAsoccer may be also further evaluated in the broader context of my previous rout of the Baptist Champion posting under the ID "mathetes" (most of the personal archives on "mathetes" history here have since been deleted).

He had an impressive resume as well:

> B.A.
> Three masters
> Ph.D.
> Instructor status a at Baptist university

When I outwitted him with my simple approach to the fundamental issue facing young-earth creation-science, he "literally" ran off rather than do right by me.less

As a former women's libber, I struggled for a long time with that verse. however, due to events in my own home church, I think I understand better now. Our church is in a small town. Membership is dwindling, dying off. The most faithful members are over 55. One lone man stands up and expressing himself in business meetings trying hard to implement changes. 5 middle-aged, and quite opinionate...more

As a former women's libber, I struggled for a long time with that verse. however, due to events in my own home church, I think I understand better now. Our church is in a small town. Membership is dwindling, dying off. The most faithful members are over 55. One lone man stands up and expressing himself in business meetings trying hard to implement changes. 5 middle-aged, and quite opinionated ( a kinder way to say bossy) women shoot him down...verbally speaking. It's not that their opinions don't matter. I think they are supposed to speak up. But they shoot down everything that deviates from the status quo, which is obviously not working. The other men don't even try and argue. These women bring their families with grandchildren into the church. They hold power over the entire congregation. The men back down., The men leave the church. The younger men just sit and grin at it all. God said men are to rule the church. Remember the first Christian church in Paul's time was made up of Jewish people. Imagine the nagging! Our church is dying because of these women. They mean well, but it's against what God wanted. They are overriding the men. I am a female age 60 and even I don't know how to tell them. I think this maybe what Paul was expressing.less

You honestly think humans lived to be just shy of 1,000 years old, believer? And suddenly the human lifespan plummeted to around 30 for some reason and now it's creeping up to 80?

By their fruit you will know them. Look at what goes on around these super rich 'pastors'. Murder, TD Jakes stepson exposing himself to cops in a gay park, Paula White and Benny Hinn caught holding hands in Rome after he signs into a hotel under a false name. American Christians need to wake up and stop listening to celebrity Christian superstars and start listening to Jesus.

I previously recommended the archives here for reference and as a home work assignment for those so interested. I just thought, in light of USAsoccer's recent, UNgodly antics, that I would provide a little example as to the value to be found in the archives. See: http://www.christianpost.com/comments/USAsoccer/page20.html http://www.christianpost.com/news/science-and-religion-arent-frien...more

I previously recommended the archives here for reference and as a home work assignment for those so interested.

I just thought, in light of USAsoccer's recent, UNgodly antics, that I would provide a little example as to the value to be found in the archives.

See:

http://www.christianpost.com/comments/USAsoccer/page20.html
http://www.christianpost.com/news/science-and-religion-arent-friends-47178/

> From: USAsoccer
> To: The Christian Post
> Date: October 13, 2010
> Time: 9:10 PM
>
> Subject: Science and Religion Aren't Friends?
>
> (excerpts)
>
> (I) have a J.D. and a M.S.S. on top of my B.A....
>
> Any you?
>
> Ad hominen attacks only makes you look
> like the fool you are.
>
>> USAsoccer

Can we all say:

> Matthew 7:1,2
> James 3:1

While we may have differing opinions about that, I think it adds some context and explanation as to why USAsoccer would take losses in these discussions sooooooooo hard.less

I know Johnson :) I said in my previous comments that both positions were unprovable, however, there is plenty of evidence for Christianity / Creationism, and ultimately, when one comes to have a personal relationship with Jesus, there is peace and conviction within that Jesus is the truth. You ought to try it... Martin Luther never personally persecuted the Jews as far as I can tell. He wa...more

I know Johnson :) I said in my previous comments that both positions were unprovable, however, there is plenty of evidence for Christianity / Creationism, and ultimately, when one comes to have a personal relationship with Jesus, there is peace and conviction within that Jesus is the truth. You ought to try it...
Martin Luther never personally persecuted the Jews as far as I can tell. He was probably buying into the idea that the Jews were responsible for torturing and crucifying his Lord. Paul L. Maier is an historian and has good information in his books and DVDs that shed light on why Christians should not blame the Jews for mistreating Jesus, as it was only a small group from the Jewish leadership of the synagogue at that time who wanted Jesus dead. It was a kangaroo court, and most of the Jews were very impressed with Jesus as was shown on Palm Sunday, a week before Jesus was crucified. As the week went on, Jesus' popularity grew even more, as he astonished the people with his replies to the Pharisees and Sadducees who tried to trip Him up. This was a common misconception at the time of Luther and he is also attributed as saying many things in defense of the Jews. I have read about a Jewish man who became a Lutheran pastor, and saw both sides of Luther"s writings on the Jews. I would definitely consider Martin Luther to be a Christian, only he should have been more charitable towards the Jews, yes, that is for sure.less

@madyar; I understood your list of laws from the Torah, not using bible references. I didn't think it made sense to do so.. I still don't think it was needed, the list had no point. Condescending, isn't that the pot calling the kettle black? It is like you’re showing off, is that why you had made your list? This why I said that you don't understand the law; you had write all this stuff as if i...more

@madyar; I understood your list of laws from the Torah, not using bible references. I didn't think it made sense to do so.. I still don't think it was needed, the list had no point. Condescending, isn't that the pot calling the kettle black? It is like you’re showing off, is that why you had made your list? This why I said that you don't understand the law; you had write all this stuff as if it was to prove something. The truth is the law is written on our hearts and if we live as lawless people we have no hope. Salvation does not come by the law but by God’s grace, those who try to live by the law to gain God’s approval will fail, but to accept God’s grace through Jesus is to be free of the law but not exempt, we must still do good and do as Christ instructed because that is how we show our love of Him. I won’t quote all the scriptures but it is there in Bible…less

Well there you go, Paula's got integrity.

@clover; there was no Mosque or Koran in Jesus day, there were no books to burn they didn't invent printing yet; He did turn tables and chase the changers out with a whip, He did confront the Pharisees with harsh charges calling them vipers, He stood against evil and exposed how it oppressed the people…

Dear Mr Adminstrator, if not MSIOF which song title by the KOL would you like me to have mentioned?

godi, I didnt ask you to provide proof of evolution, re-read. So, martin luther wasnt really a christian, right?

I understand the history behind the K of L. I was raised in that enviornment which preys on the weak. The sooner they realize they don't need them to have a relationship with God, the quicker they can start the healing process. I hope their movie does well.

No Johnson, I can't provide proof for evolution, that is my point :) Christians who follow Christ don't persecute, as Jesus is our example, not people who call themselves Christian and don't follow Christ's example.

BobW, Bart Ehrman is a former fundamentalist Christian who now says the New Testament of the Bible is a fraud. An evangelical Christian as a teen, his close textual study of the Bible ha led him to believe that most of the central books of modern Christinianity are forgeries. How do you explain that? And he comments further: Ehrman backs his arguments with a deep knowledge of the...more

BobW,


Bart Ehrman is a former fundamentalist Christian who now says the New Testament of the Bible is a fraud.

An evangelical Christian as a teen, his close textual study of the Bible ha led him to believe that most of the central books of modern Christinianity are forgeries.

How do you explain that?

And he comments further:

Ehrman backs his arguments with a deep knowledge of the culture and history of the New Testament world. He's written 20 books on early Christianity and is an authority on ancient manuscripts used to translate the Bible.

His claims, though, take on some of Christianity's most sacred tenets, like the resurrection of Jesus. Ehrman says he doesn't think the resurrection took place. There's no proof Jesus physically rose from the dead, and the resurrection stories contradict one another, he says.

SOURCE: http://www.zimbio.com/Bart+Ehrman/articles/2/Bart+Ehrman+Former+fundamentalist+says+Bibleless

Height is physical characteristic, skin color is a physical characteristic, eye color is a physical characteristic....sexual "orientation" is not a physical characteristic...its a feeling, an emotional reaction, a desire! and DESIRES CAN AND DO CHANGE!!!!

godi, martin luther had more than "stains on his character", he and like minded christian tormented and persecuted jews in europe for centuries culminating with the holocaust. < Nobody has proof of evolution > can you provide proof?