Mormon Defender Skirts Christian Question; Instead Calls for Unity

peace123 »

Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:24 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

Luther, while recognizing purgatory, indulgences, and the invocation of the saints, denied all effect of indulgences on purgatory. He had issues with the Catholic Church but his goal was to pressure reformations of the Church. Had the Church eliminated indulgences on purgatory during Luther's era would we still have lutheranism?

Catholic Pride in 'One True Church' Makes Enemies, Says Coptic Pope

peace123 »

Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:22 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

The majority of protestants merely wanted to reform the Church, like it or not, that is factual history. Thus, the name protestant reformation. It is a modern day, almost mormon attempt, to eliminate the teachings of the Catholic Church.

Catholic Pride in 'One True Church' Makes Enemies, Says Coptic Pope

peace123 »

Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:20 am Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

prophet, it's tough to use Luther because as a former Catholic, like Henry VIII, he never questioned the authority of the Catholic Church. Please refer to the Encyclopedia of biblical christianity online. "Luther, while recognizing purgatory, indulgences, and the invocation of the saints, denied all effect of indulgences on purgatory". From previous postings you have serious concerns with the invocation of the saints.

Catholic Pride in 'One True Church' Makes Enemies, Says Coptic Pope

peace123 »

Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:13 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

nope, there might have been a turn to using the bible more but my take on Vatican II was an attempt to get more lay people involved. The Catholic Catechism naver changed. Thus, the article clearly states: However, many Protestant denominational heads and scholars have also pointed out that the Vatican’s statement is nothing new.

Mormon Defender Skirts Christian Question; Instead Calls for Unity

peace123 »

Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:05 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

James

This belief directly contradicts the concept of the Trinity, which are three Gods without form or passion in one. The Trinity was not officially taught in the Christian church until 300 years after the Resurrection of The Savior. The idea of the 3 in 1 Trinity was the product of the Nicene Creed of 325 A.D. Under the direction of Constantine, a council of theologians, scholars, and clergy were called together to organize the official doctrines and beliefs of the church. Confusion about official doctrine was rampant at the time. The council debated the nature of the Godhead until a compromise was reached. That compromise was the Nicene Creed, which established the idea of Christ "being of one substance with the Father" . In the 5th century the Athanasian Creed reaffirmed and expounded further on The Trinity.

You are correct and that is what that poster truthandjustice was getting at before in one of the sites. Most Catholics are aware of that but protestants don't like to discuss it.

However, your comment about: While the Lutheran, Baptist and Church of Jesus Christ (LDS) churches recognize an apostasy from true Christianity, Lutheranism and Anabaptists find the remedy in reform, whereas Mormonism (and Roger Williams, and arguably Luther) claims the necessity of inspired restoration, not only for theological purposes but also to reestablish a broken line of apostolic succession and authority, is really the key statement. Luther as a former Catholic never questioned the authority of the Pope he merely wanted to reform the Church. Thus, the name Protestant reformation. I'm not a mormon but the more I read posts from different people the more a picture is becoming clear - remain Catholic (question nothing), become a protestant try to reform the Church (thus prophets statements about people leaving the Church inorder to get it to change), become a mormon reject the Catholic faith and the reformation attempts of the protestants. However, I wouldn't become a mormon personally because they have a lot of strange beliefs based on their founding (the missing tablets, etc.) one of the funniest shows i've ever seen is Southparks attempt to explain the mormon religion -A MUST SEE. Another aspect I don't understand is why you can only go into certain temples if you are up to date on your tithing. Shouldn't God be accessible to everyone?

Poll: Most Republicans Pick 'None of the Above' for President

peace123 »

Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:53 am Agree: 10   Disagree: 5

Sam Brownback...have to vote with the consistent candidate on life issues