Ben Stein to Deliver Liberty Univ. Commencement Speech

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Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:43 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

What I do not understand about this website is why so many non-believing evolutionary minded individuals spend so much time posting here? Are you looking for converts?
I assume some of you must be non-Christian or you would not be calling other posters "ignorant Christians Hicks." I suggest you repent and "Let your speech be always with grace!" On judgment day it won't make a bit of difference what anyone believed about macro or micro evolution, will it?

New Rule Protects Pro-Life Health Care Providers

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Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:51 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

It is sadly strange to read "Yes I am" say that Christian physicians and professions who wish to protect human life should be sent to the ghetto of "specialized medical venues." Christians cannot check their religion to their "personal lives." We become doctors because we want to help people. We want to help people because we are Christians.

New Rule Protects Pro-Life Health Care Providers

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Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:48 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

I suppose this that Christians should not go to medical school or pharmacy school. The freedom of religion that the constitution gives us, allows us to be physicians and refuse to kill babies and old people. A Christian cannot confine his beliefs to his "personal life" as it is his life. We practice medicine because we want to help people. We want to help people because we are Christians. It is sadly strange for "Yes I am" to propose that Christian phsycians should be sent to the ghetto of "specialized medical venues."

From Vampires to Jesus

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Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:39 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

Yes Believer, she did. You could go to the Focus on the Family website and listen to the mp3s. It was really good if you are interested in writing. She said that she will not be writing anymore vampire books and went to a great length to talk about how her estrangement from God was expressed in the whole vampire genre. The vampire thing had to do with someone who had lost real life and was desperate to get it back. Hence, the vampire who every night must go out and find someone to bite. The vampire can never get back to real life. She described how much of a chore it was to be an atheist and look at sunsets to say that it all happened by accident and how great a relief it was to return to Christ. I thought it was fascinating. She really sounds, well humble, although I hate to use the word. In the back of the first book, Out of Egypt, she recounts how she read JAT Robertson, and D A Carson in her research and liked them both.

From Vampires to Jesus

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Sat Nov 01, 2008 10:13 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

I listened to her talk on Focus on the Family and found her extremely interesting. Her description of her relationship to Christ sounded real. I read her first "Christian" novel "Out of Egypt" and liked it. She does take some literary license with the story but made a really big point about doing her best not to say more than she should. She was trying to tell us what she thought it would be like to be a child growing up learning about the world that you created. She assumes that the child Christ emptied himself as Paul speaks of in Phil 2 of the independant use of His power as God.
Her view is Catholic. She reads her Bible several hours a day. I wish I could say the same.
Strikes me as a young believer who would be subject to young believers view of scripture. Requires us to be patient and merciful. James 2:12-13

Petraeus Endorsement of Faith-Based Military Book Draws Fire

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Mon Aug 25, 2008 2:21 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Remember the movie Independance Day. When the president asks what the aliens want from us, the reply is "DIE."
These kind of atheists wont be happy until we agree with them by ceasing to speak of Christ and agree that George Washington was an atheist, too. I cannot imagine what George Patton might have said about this whinning sue happy attorney. God bless em, even if they dont want it.

La. Senate Approves Bill Promoting Critical Analysis of Evolution

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Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:29 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Calling all of you who are dedicated to the proposition that all men evolved in a more or less unequal manner!
I would like a succinct 150 word definition of evolution as you see it. It seems to me to be a moving target. I know that most of you do not want to explain the origin of life which seems to be the thing that evolution is credited for here in the mainstream media. So, 150 words or less, tell me what this is, if you want to participate. I find that it makes you write better when every word counts. Wont be anyroom for gratuitous insults either!:-) That means you cant call me stupid for asking what is on your minds. :-)
I will be traveling for the next week, but I will look at the posts at least once a day.
runningdoc

Academic Freedom Bill Sweeps through La. House

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Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:43 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Steve, This sounds so Orwellian.:-) You lose freedom by granting those who wish to teach about intelligent design the legal permission to do so? You have it backwards. You give up your freedom when you say that a reasonable alternative to evolution cannot be taught.
No you are not the rebel I referred to. I was talking about me since I live in the part of the British Empire that rebelled. :-)
Academic freedom is such a weird concept these days. If you walk on a college campus you are free to speak if you are a liberal democrat pro abortion, pro gay rights, anti Christian. You are free to speak in the science department if you swear allegiance to evolution. Unless you toe the line and are politically correct, you really dont have academic freedom.
That is where this conversation began. The Freedom to dissent. The Freedom for intelligent people to look at what is being taught and disagree.
I will stick with Freedom since I am the great great great great grandchild of rebels.
Paul in his letter to the Galatians 5:1 Stand firm in the liberty wherewith Christ has made you free and be not entangled again in the yoke of bondage.
runningdoc

Academic Freedom Bill Sweeps through La. House

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Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:42 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Dear Steve, British science is committed to what it thinks the truth is at this moment. Given time a good bit of that truth will change.. Unlike the Bible which does not change.
The sad thing is that you seem to value freedom less than you do the changing truth of British science. I will take Freedom anyday. Science comes and goes. Once it is gone, Freedom is hard to get back.
But, then what would expect a rebel to say anyway. :-)
runningdoc

Academic Freedom Bill Sweeps through La. House

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Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:52 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Steve, 3of 4 of my kids played footballllllll/soccer, two in college and I still dont understand the game too much. runningdoc. flagged myself for inappropriate use of the English language.

Academic Freedom Bill Sweeps through La. House

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Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:49 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Agent, The meaning is not there. It was not there when the constitution was written. The people who wrote it did not view it the way it is interpreted today. My undergrad degree is in history. I can refer you to some good books on the subject, or you can take my word for it.
BTW, taxes for public education do not pay for the public library, museums, city parks and the like. Those come in separate taxes in the state of Indiana and most other places.
I sent all of my children to private Christian schools and paid the taxes and did not complain. I was financially able to do that. Most parents are not. The taxation or the education without academic freedom to discuss ID is tyranny.
runningdoc

Academic Freedom Bill Sweeps through La. House

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Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:43 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Steve, that remains the beauty of living in the United States. Freedom to educate your children that the world is flat without a bureaucrat to tell you otherwise. We can homeschool our children here and many do. Their children do not seem to suffer much as a result. My son inlaw was homeschooled through High school and went right on in to college in engineering. He now works on aircraft engines for a company you may be familiar with, Rolls Royce Engine.
I know of no one here who wants to teach their chidlren about a flat earth, and frankly I think you can be a great doctor, accountant, lawyer, teacher, nurse, investment banker, and research scientist and believe in a very Intelligent Designer.
I know lots of them. runningdoc

Academic Freedom Bill Sweeps through La. House

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Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:51 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

Steve, the solution is a voucher. Let people educate their children the way they see fit with their own tax dollars or dont tax them at all. The founders did not forsee a public education system that would be funded in the way that education currently is funded by mandatory taxation. Thus, they would not have forseen the conflict that might arise from a revisionist historical interpretation of the 1st amendment and the establishment clause. The phrase, separation of church and state does not appear in the US constitution. Thomas Jefferson authorized the printing of Bibles to give to the Indians while he was President, If I remember correctly.
Let everyone pick their own school and take their voucher to it. Then nobody will be mad about Christmas programs or Easter vacation or what the teacher said in biology.
runningdoc

Academic Freedom Bill Sweeps through La. House

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Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:20 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Steve, currently the only thing being taught in the classroom of public schools is the billions of years to do this model. My education started in 1955 so, I have listened to origins explained in a variety of ways by the teacher in charge. I had teachers remind me at the end of the educational movie, that Genesis one tells us that God created the heavens and the earth in 6 days. I have had zoology professors tell me that God used evolution to create things the way they are. I had professors for whom god was not an issue.
The problem with the current education structure is that as long as the child is in control of the public education system which currently only teaches evolution, the parent has no option if they are going to recoup the tax money they pay for their childs eduction.
Thus I said, public educators want me and other taxpayers like me to guarantee them an audience with our tax dollars.
The folks in Louisiana are probably just as smart as anyone posting on the website.(at least they have something important to do) They want their children to understand that there are good numbers of people who disagree with the religious evolutionary dogma. They do not want their children educated in a setting where God is part of the null curriculum.
runningdoc

Academic Freedom Bill Sweeps through La. House

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Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:46 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Steve,
"There are those who do not think the Earth s 4.5 Ga, do you think therefore that in science classes (or where this is taught in American schools) this alternative point"

What is the Earth s 4.5 Ga.
Is this in reference to the question about how old the earth is? Old planet versus Young Planet?
runnindoc, I will be out running for a while and get back to it after lunch.

Academic Freedom Bill Sweeps through La. House

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Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:12 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Steve, Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good for the use of edification, that it might minister grace to the hearers.
Paul in his letter to the Ephesians 4:29.
That is the Biblical definition of free speech. Say things that benefit others. No corrupt communication. I suppose that means profane, unkind, name calling, untruth, slander and gossip.
The Biblical definition of free speech for Americans is important, because our rights were endowed to us by our creator not by our government or king. Such Free speech requires restraint that speaks in the interests of others. James Madison said that such restraint required a Christian people. He did not think we could abide by our laws if we were not a Christian People.
Freedom of speech was not intended to license individuals to say unkind, hurtful, slanderous things about others. Free speech was not intended to protect pornograpy. Free speech also does not guarantee you an audience.
That is the issue here. Evolutionary biologists want their audience guaranteed at taxpayer expense. The people of Louisana just want free speech to apply to all biology teachers, parents and students and to all viewpoints on the subject of origins.
runningdoc

Academic Freedom Bill Sweeps through La. House

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Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:53 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Dear CCCCCCCCCC, I am smiling while I write this. I am not unhappy or upset.
I dont think you understand the establishment clause. Congress shall make no law with regard to the establishment of religion of the free exercise thereof. :-)
Free exercise of religion is just as much a part of the clause as the establishment issue. Taken in the context of the times, the establishment clause was not written to limit the influence of Christianity in our government or in our schools. It meant that no Christian denomination such as catholic or episcopal or baptist or methodist would become the state religion. Your understanding of the establishment clause is born out of a revision of history. In the long run, it is religion, not science, that is most important to the survival of any society.
Now Go set your hair on fire and say 1000 times, Christians are stupid. That is mostly what you did in your last two posts. I would flag them, but you would just complain about Christians who flag them. Saying that people who disagree with you are stupid does not lower their intelligence. It is merely a reflection on those who taught you manners.
The problem is that evolutionists just cant stand free speech and free people who vote for free speech. Evolutionists seem to want free speech only for those who worship the religion of evolution.
runningdoc.

Academic Freedom Bill Sweeps through La. House

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Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:27 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

Just read all the posts. It is amusing to watch this group jump from article to article. It started with a bunch of you setting your hair on fire because Ben Stein had the audacity to make the ID movie. Now you are setting your hair on fire because the people of Louisiana wish to have the freedom to teach whatever they wish in the classroom regarding origins. Imagine that. IN a free country free people can vote to extend that freedom to the classroom.
Education in the United States has been in steady decline since the mid 60s. I know you have to be old enough to know. :-) During that period, creation has been systematically excluded from the classroom and evolution has been taught exclusively as the only explanation for the origin of life unless you want to include alien abduction.
During this period, anyone who believes creation or intelligent design has been systematically rooted out of teaching science. Quoting the current biology faculty of the state of Lousiana as they attack teaching intelligent design or creation is about the same as asking for an unbiased opinion about the destructive nature of abortion from Planned Parenthood.
This is typical liberal nonsense. Freespeech for everyone but Christians. Open academic minds for inquiry except for intelligent design. It is this kind of closedmindedness that is destroying literacy and education in the US, not creation.or intelligent design.
Now set your hair on fire and tell why in a country that values free speech i should never say such things because it might harm "the children." :-) LOL
runningdoC

Battle Over Teaching 'Weaknesses' of Evolution Moves to Texas

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Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:52 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

SteveH2O
The point about gravity and Newton was not about his orthodoxy or his lack thereof. I think he also like alchemy. The point was that he believed in a creator and understood gravity and described it without the aid of computers and lots of other toys.
Some very intelligent people have and do believe in intelligent design. That is the point.
Grace and Peace, runningdoC

Battle Over Teaching 'Weaknesses' of Evolution Moves to Texas

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Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:49 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Agent, IT huh that is interesting.
One last comment on interpretation. From JRR Tolkein, Interpretation of allegory belongs to the author. What a person meant by what they said or did belongs to them not to us. Unless you are clairvoyant, you cannot decide why I answer posts. I could just be a plant with CP trying to run up their hit numbers for ads. You wont know unless I tell you.
You can only speculate on what God's motive, kindness, goodness are unless you ask HIm and He tells you. You cannot deny the existence of a designer by criticising the design based on your interpretation of His motive.
I think everything about the human body is an elegant design. No one on this planet could have done better.
Grace and Peace, runningdoC