savagewords: Lol, prophet, when you switch names, you gotta change your style ^_^ Just a tip :D

And he continues to fail miserably!

OoooO, look at believer bringing out his original name and still trying to incite anger ^_^ Let's examine some of your trolling and multiple name usage :D believers other nick! jester in the Kings court wrote: "hey mickeyc! how ya been! long time no see." believer wrote: "he was mickey and mickeyc" ---- his final post believer wrote: "sm, in my final post on this thread to you" ...more

OoooO, look at believer bringing out his original name and still trying to incite anger ^_^ Let's examine some of your trolling and multiple name usage :D

believers other nick!

jester in the Kings court wrote: "hey mickeyc! how ya been! long time no see."

believer wrote: "he was mickey and mickeyc"

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his final post

believer wrote: "sm, in my final post on this thread to you"

Now now believer, when we have evidence against you, it doesn't make you look very convincing :D For someone who trolls almost 24-7, im actually surprised you haven't improved after all that practice. That's pretty sad :Dless

Lol, over a year of trolling and using multiple names, and you still haven't improved. I love seeing your trolls fail miserably :-D

Lol, you're so desperate to incite anger, you now trying to thumb down my posts :D I can sense when a troll is desperate to incite anger :D If taken out of context, this passage seems to condemn homosexuals. However, when Romans 1:26-27 is considered within the context of Romans 1:16 through Romans 2:16, the Scriptures clearly present a different teaching. Paul was writing to the church in R...more

Lol, you're so desperate to incite anger, you now trying to thumb down my posts :D I can sense when a troll is desperate to incite anger :D

If taken out of context, this passage seems to condemn homosexuals. However, when Romans 1:26-27 is considered within the context of Romans 1:16 through Romans 2:16, the Scriptures clearly present a different teaching.

Paul was writing to the church in Rome. The Roman church had become troubled by divisions related to spiritual pride. Paul was addressing the Christians in Rome and teaching about the pagans in Rome. After declaring the power of Christ's gospel to save all, he pointed out that the religious people of Rome had refused to even acknowledge GOD as one of their many gods. They had turned their backs on the one true living God and worshiped handmade idols. Paul explained that as a result of their idolatry, every part of their lives had become corrupt and vile.

Paul then told the Roman Christians that they were not to judge others. To judge others is to condemn yourself (Romans 2:1). Christians are to love others out of their brokenness and into the healing wholeness that is found in Jesus Christ.

The Greek word Paul used, that has been translated in our Bibles as "natural/unnatural", relates to that which is against one's own inherent nature (i.e., heterosexuals engaging in homosexual acts). It was also related to Paul's concept of what was culturally acceptable. The same Greek word is used in I Cor. 11:14-15 in reference to correct hair length for men and women and in Gal. 2:15 in reference to Jews and Gentiles who were such by "nature." Paul emphasized that IDOLATRY (not homosexuality) was the evil which resulted in temple prostitution, sadomasochism, and lack of regard for others.

It would help if you knew what the culture was like back then. In those times, male-male intercourse was a result of idol worship. Back then, it was a common practice of cult priests and priestesses to submit to sexual acts with either gender as part of the worship of their deities. Therefore, such acts were considered sinful and debauchery. It would be the same if it were hetero people involved in cultic sex, prostitution or sexual abuse of minors.

Now I'm pretty sure that two guys engaging in sex these days are NOT idol worshipers. In fact, 99% of the time, it is a physical act of love; just like any hetero couples.less

Eleazar2310: Lol, hello daniel paul. Using another name are we! Prophet wrote: "But I do find it amusing, and a little disturbing, to listen to heathens pretending to know God's Word. " Prophet wrote: "So in order to be saved, did you crawl back up into your mother's womb?" Prophet wrote: "You really are ignorant. LOL. All your gobbledygook proves nothing." prophet caught under a diffe...more

Eleazar2310: Lol, hello daniel paul. Using another name are we!

Prophet wrote: "But I do find it amusing, and a little disturbing, to listen to heathens pretending to know God's Word. "

Prophet wrote: "So in order to be saved, did you crawl back up into your mother's womb?"

Prophet wrote: "You really are ignorant. LOL. All your gobbledygook proves nothing."

prophet caught under a different name!

prophet wrote: "The place that came from is that you were on here quite a few months ago and said the exact same thing. But you were using a different name back then. It is just as lame today as it was back then."

shadow_man wrote: "LMAO. So wait, i have never seen your nick on here before until these days. So that means you're under a different name."

prophet wrote: "You can ask believer, jehovahnissi, and hyperion. I've been on here for a number of years. I took a hiatus from this site for about the past 6 months. I'm sure you missed me."

shadow_man wrote: "LOL, i have only been posting around the christian post since the last 2-3 months. Looks like you got caught slipping and lying again =) Why would i have to ask believer? You are believer =) And the only two names i've seen before that you mentioned are believer and jeho. If i never seen hyperion before and you mentioned him, looks like thats another name you assumed. So apparently you just admitted you are at least 2 of those people =) Troll-busted!"less

believers other nick! jester in the Kings court wrote: "hey mickeyc! how ya been! long time no see." believer wrote: "he was mickey and mickeyc" ---- his final post believer wrote: "sm, in my final post on this thread to you" Now now believer, when we have evidence against you, it doesn't make you look very convincing :D For someone who trolls almost 24-7, im actually surprised you...more

believers other nick!

jester in the Kings court wrote: "hey mickeyc! how ya been! long time no see."

believer wrote: "he was mickey and mickeyc"

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his final post

believer wrote: "sm, in my final post on this thread to you"

Now now believer, when we have evidence against you, it doesn't make you look very convincing :D For someone who trolls almost 24-7, im actually surprised you haven't improved after all that practice. That's pretty sad :Dless

LOL, denial is a hard thing prophet :D prophet wrote: "The place that came from is that you were on here quite a few months ago and said the exact same thing. But you were using a different name back then. It is just as lame today as it was back then." shadow_man wrote: "LMAO. So wait, i have never seen your nick on here before until these days. So that means you're under a different name." ...more

LOL, denial is a hard thing prophet :D

prophet wrote: "The place that came from is that you were on here quite a few months ago and said the exact same thing. But you were using a different name back then. It is just as lame today as it was back then."

shadow_man wrote: "LMAO. So wait, i have never seen your nick on here before until these days. So that means you're under a different name."

prophet wrote: "You can ask believer, jehovahnissi, and hyperion. I've been on here for a number of years. I took a hiatus from this site for about the past 6 months. I'm sure you missed me."

shadow_man wrote: "LOL, i have only been posting around the christian post since the last 2-3 months. Looks like you got caught slipping and lying again =) Why would i have to ask believer? You are believer =) And the only two names i've seen before that you mentioned are believer and jeho. If i never seen hyperion before and you mentioned him, looks like thats another name you assumed. So apparently you just admitted you are at least 2 of those people =) Troll-busted!"less

Prophet: Prophet wrote: "Shadowman is blind and arrogant." Prophet wrote: "But I do find it amusing, and a little disturbing, to listen to heathens pretending to know God's Word. " Prophet wrote: "So in order to be saved, did you crawl back up into your mother's womb?" Prophet wrote: "You really are ignorant. LOL. All your gobbledygook proves nothing." Looks like some is desperate to i...more

Prophet: Prophet wrote: "Shadowman is blind and arrogant."

Prophet wrote: "But I do find it amusing, and a little disturbing, to listen to heathens pretending to know God's Word. "

Prophet wrote: "So in order to be saved, did you crawl back up into your mother's womb?"

Prophet wrote: "You really are ignorant. LOL. All your gobbledygook proves nothing."

Looks like some is desperate to incite anger ^_^less

Ahhh, more insults! Not surprising since you also said these before: Prophet wrote: "Shadowman is blind and arrogant." Prophet wrote: "But I do find it amusing, and a little disturbing, to listen to heathens pretending to know God's Word. " Prophet wrote: "So in order to be saved, did you crawl back up into your mother's womb?" Prophet wrote: "You really are ignorant. LOL. All your go...more

Ahhh, more insults! Not surprising since you also said these before:

Prophet wrote: "Shadowman is blind and arrogant."

Prophet wrote: "But I do find it amusing, and a little disturbing, to listen to heathens pretending to know God's Word. "

Prophet wrote: "So in order to be saved, did you crawl back up into your mother's womb?"

Prophet wrote: "You really are ignorant. LOL. All your gobbledygook proves nothing."

It looks like you're desperate on your trolling ^_^less

Then we can observe the Romans translation. If taken out of context, this passage seems to condemn homosexuals. However, when Romans 1:26-27 is considered within the context of Romans 1:16 through Romans 2:16, the Scriptures clearly present a different teaching. Paul was writing to the church in Rome. The Roman church had become troubled by divisions related to spiritual pride. Paul was add...more

Then we can observe the Romans translation.

If taken out of context, this passage seems to condemn homosexuals. However, when Romans 1:26-27 is considered within the context of Romans 1:16 through Romans 2:16, the Scriptures clearly present a different teaching.

Paul was writing to the church in Rome. The Roman church had become troubled by divisions related to spiritual pride. Paul was addressing the Christians in Rome and teaching about the pagans in Rome. After declaring the power of Christ's gospel to save all, he pointed out that the religious people of Rome had refused to even acknowledge GOD as one of their many gods. They had turned their backs on the one true living God and worshiped handmade idols. Paul explained that as a result of their idolatry, every part of their lives had become corrupt and vile.

Paul then told the Roman Christians that they were not to judge others. To judge others is to condemn yourself (Romans 2:1). Christians are to love others out of their brokenness and into the healing wholeness that is found in Jesus Christ.

The Greek word Paul used, that has been translated in our Bibles as "natural/unnatural", relates to that which is against one's own inherent nature (i.e., heterosexuals engaging in homosexual acts). It was also related to Paul's concept of what was culturally acceptable. The same Greek word is used in I Cor. 11:14-15 in reference to correct hair length for men and women and in Gal. 2:15 in reference to Jews and Gentiles who were such by "nature." Paul emphasized that IDOLATRY (not homosexuality) was the evil which resulted in temple prostitution, sadomasochism, and lack of regard for others.

It would help if you knew what the culture was like back then. In those times, male-male intercourse was a result of idol worship. Back then, it was a common practice of cult priests and priestesses to submit to sexual acts with either gender as part of the worship of their deities. Therefore, such acts were considered sinful and debauchery. It would be the same if it were hetero people involved in cultic sex, prostitution or sexual abuse of minors.

Now I'm pretty sure that two guys engaging in sex these days are NOT idol worshipers. In fact, 99% of the time, it is a physical act of love; just like any hetero couples.less

It looks like you didn't read my corinthian interpretation done by biblical scholars :) Let us examine it. Btw, none of those passages you pulled out have to do with homosexuality. Lol, one of them is talking about hair. Sorry believer, i know that's you as well :D I Corinthians 6:9-11 Let us examine that very closely. Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God...more

It looks like you didn't read my corinthian interpretation done by biblical scholars :) Let us examine it. Btw, none of those passages you pulled out have to do with homosexuality. Lol, one of them is talking about hair. Sorry believer, i know that's you as well :D

I Corinthians 6:9-11
Let us examine that very closely.

Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate [malakoi], nor homosexual offenders [arsenokoites], nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God.

First of all, before we address this line, let us consider one thing. Supposedly taken from a 2000+ year old book, understand that the word "homosexual" was not coined until 1869 by Austrian-born novelist Karl-Maria Kertbeny. So how it happens to be included in a true reading of the particular biblical passage should make you ponder how accurate the interpretation actually is. So man changing the words of the Bible to conveniently spread hate? I think so.

Now onto the interpretation, i've included the original Greek words as well where it's relevant.


Paul was attempting to educate the new Christians in Corinth as to what Godly living was all about. In verses 9-10, he listed ways of living that were not compatible with a Christ-centered life. In verse 11, Paul reminded them that they had been saved out of those destructive ways. There are two Greek words in I Corinthians 6:9, which sometimes are translated with a homosexual connotation.

First word, "malakoi" or "malakos" - it literally means soft or mushy; it can mean spineless, wishy-washy or without backbone. "Malakoi" was used four other times in the New Testament and it always meant "soft." The context of I Corinthians seems to imply a moral softness or decadence, a failure to stand up for what is right and godly. It is significant that for several hundred years there was no sexual connotation assigned to this word.

Second word, "arsenokoitai" or "arsenokoites" - it literally means, "males having sex." Early commentaries on I Corinthians related "arsenokoitai" to male temple prostitutes and to men having sex with boys. (Idolatrous prostitution and pedophilia are always wrong for those seeking to honor God.)

Homosexual relationships were known in the Greco-Roman culture of Paul's day. The Greek word commonly used in reference to adult male same sex partners was "arrenokoites." Paul did not use this word. Instead, he created his own, "arsenokoitai." If Paul had intended to condemn all adult male same sex partners, he would have used the common word for it.less

Proof of you using multiple names :D prophet caught under a different name! prophet wrote: "The place that came from is that you were on here quite a few months ago and said the exact same thing. But you were using a different name back then. It is just as lame today as it was back then." shadow_man wrote: "LMAO. So wait, i have never seen your nick on here before until these days. So tha...more

Proof of you using multiple names :D

prophet caught under a different name!

prophet wrote: "The place that came from is that you were on here quite a few months ago and said the exact same thing. But you were using a different name back then. It is just as lame today as it was back then."

shadow_man wrote: "LMAO. So wait, i have never seen your nick on here before until these days. So that means you're under a different name."

prophet wrote: "You can ask believer, jehovahnissi, and hyperion. I've been on here for a number of years. I took a hiatus from this site for about the past 6 months. I'm sure you missed me."

shadow_man wrote: "LOL, i have only been posting around the christian post since the last 2-3 months. Looks like you got caught slipping and lying again =) Why would i have to ask believer? You are believer =) And the only two names i've seen before that you mentioned are believer and jeho. If i never seen hyperion before and you mentioned him, looks like thats another name you assumed. So apparently you just admitted you are at least 2 of those people =) Troll-busted!"less

Lol, let's examine some of your failed trolling prophet. Prophet wrote: "Shadowman is blind and arrogant." Prophet wrote: "But I do find it amusing, and a little disturbing, to listen to heathens pretending to know God's Word. " Prophet wrote: "So in order to be saved, did you crawl back up into your mother's womb?" I'm sorry, but it's hard to take you seriously :D

LOL! That's why you have different names :) catching jason slipping posing as ckirkey78 So i been getting on Jason101 for avoiding my questions. Looks like he forgot to switch names when he posted this =) ckirkey78: First of all, not everyone on this site is "believer". Second, YOU are now avoiding MY question, I asked if you were a Christian, not if you were religious. ckirkey78: Lol,...more

LOL! That's why you have different names :)

catching jason slipping posing as ckirkey78

So i been getting on Jason101 for avoiding my questions. Looks like he forgot to switch names when he posted this =)

ckirkey78: First of all, not everyone on this site is "believer". Second, YOU are now avoiding MY question, I asked if you were a Christian, not if you were religious.

ckirkey78: Lol, you really expect me to believe that? I've caught him using 3 names already, and this is just too obvious. And wait a minute. \ "YOU are now avoiding MY question" LMAO, so you're admitting you're jason101/ckirkey78. Man this is just too good. It doesn't matter if you have 100 names believer, it doesn't change how bad your trolling attempts are.

Looks like i caught you under a different name again. =)less

busting the troll believer believer wrote: "Messages that contain flames, profanity or personal attacks may be edited or removed from the forum and your access to the forum may be terminated. Click here to create a message." His post removed due to flaming, personal attacks. Even your own site disagrees with your trolling. His proofs: believer wrote: " Messages that contain flames, prof...more

busting the troll believer

believer wrote: "Messages that contain flames, profanity or personal attacks may be edited or removed from the forum and your access to the forum may be terminated. Click here to create a message."

His post removed due to flaming, personal attacks. Even your own site disagrees with your trolling.

His proofs:
believer wrote: " Messages that contain flames, profanity or personal attacks may be edited or removed from the forum and your access to the forum may be terminated. Click here to create a message."

mathete:
"Blah, blah, blah"
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shadow-man wrote "Are you male? (If not, reverse the questions to the other gender) If so, Are you sexually attracted to other men? Would you be able to enjoy sex with a man? Do you get sexual urges with a man? Do men turn you on sexually and emotionally? Could you be happy with a man sexually for the rest of your life? Does male/male porn or male sexual situations turn you on and arouse you? "

believer replied "sm, as for your questions the answer to all of them is no."

Thank you for confirming that homosexuality is not a choice!

Further confirmation

"I never questioned my attractions and I was never romantically or sexually attracted to a man, but I was very romantically and sexually attracted to girls"

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They can't even get their stories straight!

believer wrote: "Mathetes is a Pastor in Indiana and I believe getting his doctorate from Southern Seminary and I am a Director of Missions in Southeast Kentucky and I have my PhD. already"

mathetes wrote: "It would be difficult for Believer and I to be one person, since he is in the Appalachians and I'm in the Gulf South. But hey, whatever floats your boat."less

Lol, i have proof eleazar :) They are confirmed trolls that fail miserably ^_^ But is fun to play with them and troll-bust them :D

I'm quite disappointed. I would think that if you're still trolling now, you would have gotten way better at it. But sadly, you still don't know how to do it properly :( You need to learn how to incite anger, or else your trolling will fail miserably, like it did before.

Lol, switching names are we :D Let's examine your failed trolling believer: believer wrote: "sm, you are truly one sick puppy!!" believer wrote: "reveals you for the small person you are!!" more of believers proofs! believer wrote: "But I refuse to answer questions" believer wrote: "But in between my freshman and sophomore year of high school seminary I realized I wasn't meant to...more

Lol, switching names are we :D

Let's examine your failed trolling believer:

believer wrote: "sm, you are truly one sick puppy!!"

believer wrote: "reveals you for the small person you are!!"

more of believers proofs!

believer wrote: "But I refuse to answer questions"

believer wrote: "But in between my freshman and sophomore year of high school seminary I realized I wasn't meant to be a priest and that I really liked girls."

So he gave into his lusts.less

You might want to re-read the interpretation :) The words explained in there mention every use of those words in Leviticus. You can check my links for further explanation: http://www.soulfoodministry.org/docs/English/NotASin.htm http://www.jesus21.com/content/sex/bible_homosexuality_print.html http://www.christchapel.com/reclaiming.html http://www.stjohnsmcc.org/new/BibleAbuse/BiblicalRefere...more

You might want to re-read the interpretation :) The words explained in there mention every use of those words in Leviticus. You can check my links for further explanation:

http://www.soulfoodministry.org/docs/English/NotASin.htm
http://www.jesus21.com/content/sex/bible_homosexuality_print.html
http://www.christchapel.com/reclaiming.html
http://www.stjohnsmcc.org/new/BibleAbuse/BiblicalReferences.php
http://www.gaychristian101.com/
http://www.mccchurch.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Resources&Template=/CM/HTMLDisplay.cfm&ContentID=2121
http://www.wouldjesusdiscriminate.org/biblical_evidence.html
http://www.soulforce.org/article/homosexuality-bible-gay-christian
http://www.goodhopemcc.org/spirituality/sexuality-and-bible/homosexuality-not-a-sin-not-a-sickness.html

How do the fertility rituals apply? Because you cannot discount the historical times. What happened during that time period is very vital to what was written in the Bible.less