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Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:28 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

I beg to differ that baptism is the way to heaven..Only the baptism of the Holy Spirit, nowhere in scripture is it mentioned about the Apostles that they all jumped into the water and were saved by Jesus at that point because they were baptized, in fact if you were to examine the scripture, Jesus met each of these men right where they were at in their daily living, no mysterious angel came to them other than the Lord Jesus Himself. .. Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Mat 8:22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

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Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:03 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Luk 12:50 But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished!

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Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:03 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Baptism is an act of obedience to the Lord, not mandatory, but also not to be taken lightly. Baptism with water is an outward symbol to public eyes that you know and trust in what Jesus did. The following was a statement that Jesus said after He was already baptised with water.... There are other statements that Jesus says that asks or tells us how can we be baptised with the baptism that He was going to endure.

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Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:59 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

excuse my last comment, life should have been the spirit was breathed into them...

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Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:55 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Jhn 20:21
So Jesus said to them again, "Peace to you! As the Father has sent Me, I also send you."
Jhn 20:22
And when He had said this, He breathed on them, and said to them, "Receive the Holy Spirit.
Jhn 20:23
"If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained."

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Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:52 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

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Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:52 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

But Hesadanza you have the wrong baptism, the baptism of water was given by man but the baptism that Jesus had done to Him after the water was the baptism of the Holy Spirit, The first breath that was given unto man was when God breathed life into man and then man sinned, this was death, for man will surely die from eating of the fruit, then Jesus breathed life into the nostrils, reference of scripture will follow

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Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:08 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

go to the following link, you see, the Bible was written by revelation and inspiration from God to man while anything beyond the Bible is man written, if man writes without witness's to the revelation given or by selfish desire then there aren't witness, but a false prophet. Please go to the following link and research it further Hesadanza, I will pray for you as well. It's not that I am saying you aren't a Christian, but it's not by what you have done that saves you, It's by the blood of the one and only Savior Jesus Christ that has given salvation and reconciled us to God. http://www.4witness.org/mormon/jwldschr.php

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Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:57 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Hesadanza, when you pass from this earth, and go to stand before the throne of judgement at Jesus' feet, and He were to ask you a question of why should He let you into heaven, what would your response be? after answerring this to yourself, looke up the following verses Ephesians 2:8-9

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Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:50 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

If you give someone a thumbs down you should be required to give a reason for the action with scripture to back up the reason.... thank you...

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Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:45 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

Do you really want either of those characteristics in a president?
Christ left for Himself many eye-witnesses to the truth that He imparted to us.
He did not hide his truth in a secret place, buried in a hill and mysteriously translated in private by one man and his hangover.
Mormons are not Christians. Mormons need to be saved.
Maranatha!

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Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:44 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

For someone to believe that a notorious drunkard, in this case, LDS founder Joseph Smith, was divinely guided to dig up magical golden tablets in the woods, and was assisted by Michael the Archangel to translate them into what is now considered Mormon scripture (after which Michael and the tablets disappeared, or some such), speaks of extreme gullibility or capitulation to pack-mentality.

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Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:43 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

The LDS church has pronounced numerous prophecies over it's history, all of which have failed to come true; case in point, the many dates in the past that they set for the return of Christ or their claim that their membership was the 144,000 mentioned in the Bible and the fact that they had to revise their eschatology when their membership exceeded 144,000.

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Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:42 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

when a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken.

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Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:42 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

And if you say in your heart, 'How shall we know the word which the LORD has not spoken?

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Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:40 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

Deuteronomy 18:20-22 warns of false prophets and their fate. "But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.

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Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:35 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

this thing is broken, it won't let me post anything and then it posts three of what I post....

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Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:27 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

How you can square Jesus Christ's claim of being the Son of God, "I and the Father are one", The Alpha and The Omega, etc., with the LDS claim that Jesus and Lucifer are half brothers and created beings, etc, etc. - is beyond me.

LDS's "christ" is NOT the Christ of the Bible.
They do not even acknowledge being "saved by grace through faith, the gift of God and not of ourselves". The LDS church is about works based salvation which any true Christian understands is a bankrupt man-made philosophy, is of no salvific effect and a complete repudiation of the one true faith once and for all delivered to the saints.

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Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:25 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

The "Christ like" thing to do would be to warn a lost soul about their misconceptions and show them the straight and narrow path described in scripture, not pat them on the back as they march blindly to their doom. The Bible indicates that and warns against many turning away to false gospels and false 'christs'.

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Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:24 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

The "Christ like" thing to do would be to warn a lost soul about their misconceptions and show them the straight and narrow path described in scripture, not pat them on the back as they march blindly to their doom. The Bible indicates that and warns against many turning away to false gospels and false 'christs'.