Study: Few Born Agains Tithe to Churches

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Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:56 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

KoneWone
I have prayerfully considered the material found on your links you provided, and have come to the conclusion I respectfully disagree with you and feel that tithing is a commitment to laying up treasures in heaven. Jesus said to give to the poor. People gave money to paul, and he was excited that their heavenly accounts were growing [philippians 4:17]. Your comments are convincing people to cash in their heavenly retirement accounts. I hope I am wrong, but it sounds like your argument goes something like this:
[1]read these bogus links
[2]lets look at the horridness of our situation
[3] lets turn our backs on holiness and bringing joy to God's heart by deciding what a good percent is [lets do whats right in our own eyes, like people in the book of judges]

If the thing you are opposed to is enforcement, then say that. Do you mean forcing people to live in holiness? We are all against that - even Jesus is. God never forces himself on us like Allah does. This is what is livable about the Christian worldview - God does not force us to follow Him - but we will reap consequences and have a better relationship with Him if we live the way he wants.

http://www.epm.org/Treasure%20Principle_files/frame.htm

Can Huckabee Attract Non-Evangelicals?

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Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:46 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

Republicans and democrats alike love Huckabee because in Arkansas, he passed 94 measures to cut taxes. His stance on the fair flat tax is united our nation, plus he has more experience in government than clinton and obama combined, although the experience issue does not necessarily say much.

Can Huckabee Attract Non-Evangelicals?

spicy »

Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:16 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 1

Was this article wriitten by an obama campaign exec?
"Economic/Fiscal conservatives don’t like Huckabee (nor McCain for that matter) because these guys aren’t fiscal or economic conservatives at all…their records prove it."

WHAT RECORDS?
We avid huckabee supporters need a little evidence, because we don't believe everything we read.

From a fiscally conservative view, democrats and republicans alike love Huckabee because they know he is the only candidate who is going to push to cancel the IRS, and save taxpayers $10M every year in the form of a flat tax. I have a hard time believing democrat Americans would not vote for anti-IRS Huckabee simply because he is a conservative.

- spicy

Clinton's 'Gutsy' Church Appearance Softens Evangelicals

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Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:40 am Agree: 8   Disagree: 4

An interesting "quiz":

History lesson: If you don't know the answer make your best guess.
Answer all the questions before looking at the answers. Who said it?

1) 'We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common
good.'
A. Karl Marx
B. Adolph Hitler
C. Joseph Stalin
D. None of the above

2) 'It's time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the
few, by the few, and for the few...and to replace it with shared
responsibility for shared prosperity.'
A. Lenin
B. Mussolini
C. Idi Amin
D. None of the Above

3) '(We)...can't just let business as usual go on, and that means
something has to be taken away from some people.'
A. Nikita Khrushev
B. Jose f Goebbels
C. Boris Yeltsin
D. None of the above

4) 'We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to
give up a little bit of their own...in order to create this common
ground.'

A. Mao Tse Dung
B. Hugo Chavez
C. Kim Jong Il
D. None of the above

5) 'I certainly think the free-market has failed.'
A. Karl Marx
B. Lenin
C. Molotov
D. None of the above

6) 'I think it's time to send a clear message to what has become the
most profitable sector in (the) entire economy that they are being
watched.'
A. Pinochet
B. Milosevic
C. Saddam Hussein
D. None of the above



Answers:

(1) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton
6/29/2004
(2) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton
5/29/2007
(3) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton
6/4/2007
(4) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton
6/4/2007
(5) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton
6/4/2007
(6) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton
9/2/2005

Huckabee Rise Triggers Strong Response

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Sat Nov 10, 2007 4:10 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

HUCKABEE FOR PRESIDENT!! YEA!!

Huckabee Rise Triggers Strong Response

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Sat Nov 10, 2007 4:09 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Mike Huckabee on Illegal Immigration: The Kids Matter
By far the most frequent and hysterical accusation we're seeing is that Mike Huckabee is perceived to be "soft" on illegal immigration. To help set the record straight on Mike Huckabee's position, we offer the following excerpts from a February 2005 article published by the Arkansas News Bureau.


By David Robinson
Arkansas News Bureau

LITTLE ROCK - Gov. Mike Huckabee got to speak directly Wednesday with Arkansans who [don't understand] his positions on immigration.

One caller to the "Ask the Governor" radio program on the Arkansas Radio Network accused Huckabee of ignoring the law when it comes to illegal immigrants.

"Did you not take an oath to uphold the laws of this land?" asked Chris, a caller from Little Rock.
"Absolutely," Huckabee replied.

"OK, then why would you turn a blind eye to illegal immigrants invading our country and coming in and basically breaking our laws?' the caller asked.

Huckabee said that he wasn't, and that he believes illegal aliens who try to vote or try to apply for welfare benefits should be arrested.

"If they're caught as illegal aliens, I don't have any problem with sending them back," Huckabee said.

He also criticized Senate Bill 206 by Sen. Jim Holt, R-Springdale, that would impose new restrictions on illegal immigrants in Arkansas. He said the bill could hurt the state's ability to recruit industries based in countries outside the U.S., such as Toyota or Nestle, or a Swiss company.

"If we send a message that essentially if you don't look like us, talk like us and speak like us we don't want you, it has tremendous economic repercussions," Huckabee said.

Huckabee also sought to dispel certain perceptions about the benefits that illegal immigrants are getting in Arkansas.

Huckabee repeated to several callers that illegal immigrants do not receive welfare benefits or food stamps or free health care. They do get free public education for their children, but that's required under the Arkansas Constitution, Huckabee said.

"And frankly I think we would want to make sure that their kids were getting an education because an educated society is a society that can work and do a job and do a better job and make money," Huckabee said.

As for allowing immigrants to receive free prenatal care, Huckabee said that's part of his pro-life sentiment as well as that of Amendment 65 of the state constitution, which says that Arkansas considers life to begin at conception.

"I believe that because it's a human life, then by our law and by our constitution even that unborn child is an Arkansas citizen because he or she is going to be born in this state," Huckabee said. "The prenatal care for the entire pregnancy costs less than one-third of what one day in the neonatal unit at Children's Hospital would cost if the child has complications at birth."