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Jh In Romans (1-8), Paul points out that the Old Testament Law had a purpose. Its purpose was to make known what is sin, and to pass judgement on the sinner. ..you have believed another gospel, but wish to divert the attention to this by wanting so called ...commom ground... Repent is the only common ground you will get. As regards to your belief on orientation...then it must follow th...more
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In Romans (1-8), Paul points out that the Old Testament Law had a purpose. Its purpose was to make known what is sin, and to pass judgement on the sinner.
..you have believed another gospel, but wish to divert the attention to this by wanting so called ...commom ground...
Repent is the only common ground you will get.
As regards to your belief on orientation...then it must follow that pedophiles, bestial, necromancy etc. are genetic....and all common ground to drag in the proverbial mud that your gospel would allow.less
In Romans (1-8), Paul points out that the Old Testament Law had a purpose. Its purpose was to make known what is sin, and to pass judgement on the sinner. In Leviticus 18.22 the law is clear that a man shall not have sexual intercourse with another man. How does the New Testament deal with the law? Paul notes that because of Jesus we are dead to the demands/penalty of the law when one sins....more
In Romans (1-8), Paul points out that the Old Testament Law had a purpose. Its purpose was to make known what is sin, and to pass judgement on the sinner.
In Leviticus 18.22 the law is clear that a man shall not have sexual intercourse with another man.
How does the New Testament deal with the law? Paul notes that because of Jesus we are dead to the demands/penalty of the law when one sins...which in this case is death.
Yet, Paul points out that we are saved from the demands/judgements of the law because Christ has met, by his death, those demands.
Paul clearly notes that those who live by his Spirit will not continue in this sin, but as they grow in His Spirit, they will die to the demands of human nature...
Romans 8.13 - For if you live according to your human nature, you are going to die; but if by the Spirit you put to death your sinful actions, you will live.
Yet, there are regulation that are not observed in Christianity any longer. These are regulations on dress, food, and treatment of animals... In these cases, there is still typical(presenting a type) uses for them.
Paul for example uses the regulation on the ox that is allowed to graze on the grain as it works...and uses this regulation to point out that Christian missionaries have just as much a right to ask of those in the field they are working in to help them financially or by other means.
Hence, the law of the OT is for Christians an indicator of where they are in Christ. If they are sinning sexually, then they are allowing their Spiritual union with Christ to be overcome by the demands of human depravity...and must seek Christs Spirit and turn away from their sin.
To claim that there is no sin, is to have died to the Spirit and returned to the enslavement of human depravity.
As regards to my use of the Triune God. I am not trying to be floral at all. I am tired of those who wish to water down the Gospel and claim that the Christian God is the same as that of other religions.
I therefore speak of the Triune God to make others aware that I will challenge those and anyone who wishes to create the false notion that God is the same for all religions.less
Daniel, We can legislate specific forms of morality,(here I can agree) but we cannot legislate Christianity. This is what the Roman Catholic church has tried to do. The church of England, and all the other Christian state churches that have been established, have all persecuted Christians in their attempts to establish their form of Christianity. The heads of these state churches have often...more
Daniel,
We can legislate specific forms of morality,(here I can agree) but we cannot legislate Christianity.
This is what the Roman Catholic church has tried to do. The church of England, and all the other Christian state churches that have been established, have all persecuted Christians in their attempts to establish their form of Christianity. The heads of these state churches have often turned out to be tyrants themselves.
Ultimately, Christianity recognizes one head: Christ. We can only await His return and remain faithful. Forcing others to Christianity will only make us into tyrants, and antichrists.
Yet, we are required to preach Christ, and the beneficial rule of Christ in the lives and hearts of those that accept Him, and in the nations where people welcome Him.less
Rick Warren must point out that we cannot legislate Christianity. Yet, we are commanded to preach that our nation will continue to suffer if people do not turn from their sin. Be wary, for the Triune God is a God of relationship, loving and caring, but also a God of justice.
jhilgman, Sorry for the confusion. I failed to add an apostrophe in Triune God's. As regards to there being other forms of marriage sanctioned by the Triune God that are different from the one man, one woman model.... There is nothing in the Biblical Levirate model that sanctions a coupling of one man with more than 1 wife. As to the use of the word: orientation, to describe a ch...more
jhilgman,
Sorry for the confusion. I failed to add an apostrophe in Triune God's.
As regards to there being other forms of marriage sanctioned by the Triune God that are different from the one man, one woman model....
There is nothing in the Biblical Levirate model that sanctions a coupling of one man with more than 1 wife.
As to the use of the word: orientation, to describe a choice of the same gender for marriage...I find this misleading.
It is simply an immoral choice. One is to be wary of the choices they make, and not simply be lead by their feelings.less
The statements i have made are meant to exclude other marriage types. From the beginning(Genesis) marriage is defined as between one man and one woman. Homosexuality and polygamy are different marriage models that are sinful in the light of the Triune Gods revealed Word. The problem here is not that we do not accept that sin is a rebellion against God. The problem is that homosexuals...more
The statements i have made are meant to exclude other marriage types.
From the beginning(Genesis) marriage is defined as between one man and one woman.
Homosexuality and polygamy are different marriage models that are sinful in the light of the Triune Gods revealed Word.
The problem here is not that we do not accept that sin is a rebellion against God.
The problem is that homosexuals and polygamists do not admit that they are sinning. They in fact believe that their way of life is consistent with Gods nature,
Hence it is important to point out that they may still worship, but their worship is tantamount to idol worship.less
Polygamy is lopsided and forces a corrupt union. There can be no marriage union between the two or more females in the relationship. It does not reflect the Triune God, but it justifies inequality and ultimately justifies treatment of people as chattels and even slaves.
homosexual acts are sinful acts that parallel the sinfulness of idol worship. In idol worship, one submits to a false god and in homosexuality one submits to a false union. The Triune God is not to be confused with the idol, as much as union between a man and a woman ought to not be confused with homosexual acts.
Much of our media is quietly making deals or being bought outright by islamists. Time, CNN, New York Times...and I am afraid Newsweek is also bending to islamic ideology. The agenda behind this article is to eventually put down any opposition to polygamy in the U.S.
Yes, yes, of course...how could the religion of peace be responsible? Hence, it must be Hindus who are trying to make the religion of peace look bad. These same should also be made responsible for 9/11. They made it look as if they were saudi nationals but they were hindus. Osama is a man of the religion of peace, not a hindu. The hindus are trying to smear his good work... The truth ...more
Yes, yes, of course...how could the religion of peace be responsible?
Hence, it must be Hindus who are trying to make the religion of peace look bad.
These same should also be made responsible for 9/11. They made it look as if they were saudi nationals but they were hindus.
Osama is a man of the religion of peace, not a hindu. The hindus are trying to smear his good work...
The truth is so difficult to believe? now it has even become more difficult to publish...
Yes, we are now living in the Orwellian days of doublespeak...less
Christians who are unwilling to follow the narrow path are not Christians at all. The wide road is what is being preached here and being passed off as Christianity. Dont be fooled, for there are many teachers who are willing to teach it to those who are willing to believe it.
The problem is not poverty. It is ideology. the ideology of islam. Saudi Arabia is not poor. Yet, it is responsible for many of the terrorists like Osama. And, while Saudi Arabia does not allow freedom of religion, it continues to fund the building of mosques in many countries. The reason that hindus have gone from 20% to 2% in Paistan is because they are being persecuted. Consequently, ...more
The problem is not poverty. It is ideology. the ideology of islam.
Saudi Arabia is not poor. Yet, it is responsible for many of the terrorists like Osama.
And, while Saudi Arabia does not allow freedom of religion, it continues to fund the building of mosques in many countries.
The reason that hindus have gone from 20% to 2% in Paistan is because they are being persecuted. Consequently, what are hindus in India supposed to think, when every muslim country persecutes hindus?
In fact, why did these fellows have to kill the rabbi and his wife, if these are living in India and not in Israel?
Consequently, one will conclude that if you are not muslim, than you are fair game, no matter where you live...as this poor jewish couple found out.
hence, the problem is the ideology of islam...not poverty. What choice do the hindus have in pakistan, in saudi arabia? in the maldives? in malaysia?.....less
Pakistan used to be 20% Hindu, now it is only 2% Hindu...who is persecuting the Hindus? It is interesting how different people come to the defence of muslims who kill at will because they feel they are not being treated right. In every mulsim nation, the minorities are being persecuted by muslims...how many instances have you seen of these blowing themselves up or shooting civilians at rando...more
Pakistan used to be 20% Hindu, now it is only 2% Hindu...who is persecuting the Hindus?
It is interesting how different people come to the defence of muslims who kill at will because they feel they are not being treated right.
In every mulsim nation, the minorities are being persecuted by muslims...how many instances have you seen of these blowing themselves up or shooting civilians at random and taking hostages because they feel mistreated?
In England, where you have all types of minorities...how often do you hear of the poor hindus blowing themselves up on trains, or illing on buses, or systematic raping...and so on, or other minorities?
How can an Indian government properly address the muslim situation, when in fact, muslim majorities always wish to segregate themselves and ultimately secede?
How can we blame Hindus for not fearing muslims when in Pakistan and everywhere the muslims come in the majority, they become oppressive as they systematically persecute and take rights away from nonmuslims...
Has anyone reported on the Maldives, who have taken away citizenship from anyone that is not muslim? or Saudi Arabia and the rest of the muslim communities that simply will not tolerate others?
It is high time that governments begin to address the real racism that is islam.less