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Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. (JN 8:32)
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I love it!!!! It's our time.
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To SheQuon and Rand503-
In my comment I only responded with what God said. It's God's Word that you don't want to hear.
I didn't reply with my words but God's Word. Why fight a battle that has already been won? Check the record (The Bible), GOD ALWAYS WINS!!!!!
Isaiah 40:8-The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but The Word of our God shall stand for ever.
Matthew 24:35-Heaven and earth shall pass away, but My Words shall not pass away.
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Romans 13:1-3(NLT)-
Everyone must submit to governing authorities.
For all authority comes from God,
and those in positions of authority have been placed there by God.
2 So anyone who rebels against authority is rebelling against what God has instituted,
and they will be punished.
3 For the authorities do not strike fear in people who are doing right,
but in those who are doing wrong.
Would you like to live without fear of the authorities?
Do what is right, and they will honor you.
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1 Corinthians 5:9-12-
When I wrote to you before, I told you not to associate with people who indulge in sexual sin.
10 But I wasnt talking about unbelievers who indulge in sexual sin, or are greedy,
or cheat people, or worship idols. You would have to leave this world to avoid people like that. 11 I meant that you are not to associate with anyone who claims to be a believer[j] yet indulges in sexual sin, or is greedy, or worships idols, or is abusive, or is a drunkard, or cheats people. Dont even eat with such people.
12 It isnt my responsibility to judge outsiders, but it certainly is your responsibility to judge those inside the church who are sinning.
13 God will judge those on the outside; but as the Scriptures say,
You must remove the evil person from among you.
1 Corinthians 6:9,10- Dont you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit The Kingdom of God? Dont fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality, or are thieves, or greedy people,
or drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat peoplenone of these will inherit The Kingdom of God.
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Thanks Tom for your encouraging words. Keep up the good work advancing The Kingdom of God.
Grace and Peace continue to be yours ,
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Matthew 11:12-And from the days of John the Baptist until now The Kingdom of Heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.
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I am not going to argue with you. I m going to obey God.
Its interesting that you dont want to hear what God has to say about sin(you call it judging). God has already judged sin. I was just telling you what He said and you dont want to hear what The Lord has to say.
Did you think He was lying when He said, the wages of sin is death
Romans 6:20-23- 22 But now you ARE FREE from the power of sin
and have become slaves of God.
Now you do those things that lead to holiness and result in eternal life.
23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life
through Christ Jesus our Lord.
Gays and Lesbians are not free from sin. They say everybody practices sins.
The devil is a liar.
God FREED ME from sin, in March of 1992. I am not a sinner. I do not practice sin. Have I sinned. Yes. There is a difference between someone who has sinned and someone who practices sin. Repentance is the difference. My mind has changed toward everything that goes against the character of God. I agree that fornication is wrong, lying is wrong, stealing is wrong, hate is wrong, and everything that God says is wrong, I agree with Him, it is wrong. I agree with God that holiness gives life, joy, peace, and everything that is good.
Consider, you will live at the most 100 years and then you will stand before The Righteous Judge, explain to Him how you ignored His commands and you didnt agree with Him.
Repent and agree with God. The reason why you and I are on the opposite side is because I agree with God that sin will kill you (ask Adam). Living like Jesus will give you life.
Feetxxxl, I love you and I will be praying for you.
If you dont remember anything that I have said, please remember that you will stand before the same God that sent fire on Sodom and Gomorrah. He loves you but check The Bible, He hates sin and if you think that when you leave here(earth), you are going to turn heaven into San Francisco. Oh Boy.
God has a plan to invade the gay community and transform many into what He originally intended for a man and a woman to be (Genesis 1,2). I hope you are a part of that transformation.
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The gay community has been successful in changing Americas(The Worlds) view on homosexuality, so now they feel they can change the church. Just in case they didnt know, Everything but The Word of God is going down.
Matthew 24:35
35Heaven and earth shall pass away, but My Words shall not pass away.
Isaiah 40:8 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth:
but The Word of our God shall stand for ever.
There is no so thing as a homosexual/lesbian bishop, pastor, or leader, in The Kingdom of God. We should really pity homosexuals/lesbians who think they can change Gods Word.
Check the record(The Bible), God always wins.
Lets pray for them.
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The gay community has been successful in changing Americas(The Worlds) view on homosexuality, so now they feel they can change the church. Just in case they didnt know, Everything but The Word of God is going down.
Matthew 24:35
35Heaven and earth shall pass away, but My Words shall not pass away.
Isaiah 40:8 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth:
but The Word of our God shall stand for ever.
There is no so thing as a homosexual/lesbian bishop, pastor, or leader, in The Kingdom of God. We should really pity homosexuals/lesbians who think they can change Gods Word.
Check the record(The Bible), God always wins.
Lets pray for them.
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First of all, I need you to answer this question before we continue. I had the impression that you were a homosexual that was questioning Gods command that its wrong to marry the same sex. I hope you are not someone who says they are a follower of Christ and endorses sin.
If you claim to be a believer in Christ Jesus, The Apostle Paul says that I am not allowed to associate or fellowship with you. If you are an unbeliever then I would love to continue this exchange.
1 Corinthians 5:9-13-When I wrote to you before, I told you not to associate with people who indulge in sexual sin. 10 But I wasnt talking about unbelievers who indulge in sexual sin, or are greedy, or cheat people, or worship idols. You would have to leave this world to avoid people like that. 11 I meant that you are not to associate with anyone who claims to be a believer yet indulges in sexual sin, or is greedy, or worships idols, or is abusive, or is a drunkard, or cheats people. Dont even eat with such people.
12 It isnt my responsibility to judge outsiders, but it certainly is your responsibility to judge those inside the church who are sinning. 13 God will judge those on the outside; but as the Scriptures say, You must remove the evil person from among you.
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There you go trying to get deep on me again. What test? It's very simple to understand. You have not addressed the many scriptures that I have provided you with because you believe that you can ignore the truth.
Are you saying that homosexuality is about love? Homosexuality is not about love its about sex. We are commanded by God to love everyone, including our enemies. What does that have to do with sex.
Im not saying that homosexuals do not love their partner. Maybe they do but they better love God more and say even though I love you, I love God more. I had to do that when I got saved in 1992. I was in love but God said I had to let the relationship go because it was sinful.
I understand that God wants me to love my neighbor, He didnt say have sex with them. Love and sex is two different things. I love my mom. What in the world does that have to do with sex. Homosexuals have to be honest.
Why would I test scripture to see if it applies to same sex relations, when God said a man could only have sex with his wife. God said that sex was for a man and his wife. Not a man who is not married to a woman, not a man and his mistress, not two men, not two woman, not a man and a beast. If you want to be in The Kingdom of God, it is and it always will be illegal to have same sex relations.
Homosexuals have to get back into the fight along with the rest of us. I'm referring to those who have to go against their evil desires lurking within us. It is not always easy but I would rather be a disciple of Christ(disciplined) than God giving me over to my own shameful lust.
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The Truth about God-
1 Thessalonians 4-8-
3 Gods will is for you to be holy, so stay away from all sexual sin.
4 Then each of you will control his own body and live in holiness and honor
5 not in lustful passion like the pagans who do not know God and His ways.
6 Never harm or cheat a Christian brother in this matter by violating his wife, for The Lord avenges all such sins, as we have solemnly warned you before.
7 God has called us to live holy lives, not impure lives.
8 Therefore, anyone who refuses to live by these rules is not disobeying human teaching
but is rejecting God, who gives His Holy Spirit to you.
The Lie
God loves homosexuals so much that He(God) will change for them. God will change His mind because You cant help the way that you were born so God is going to give you a free pass to live life the way you want and forget about conforming into Gods image and become like Him. Everyone else has to fight their demons but you get to romance yours.
God says in verse 4-each of you will control his own body and live in holiness and honor
You can control your flesh, not by yourself but with the help of Christ. Thats why you have to make Jesus Christ The Lord of your life. He will help you.
He gave us His Word, He gave us His Son, He gave us His Spirit, He gave us His Power, He gave us brothers and sisters to help us through it. God gave us everything that we need to obey Him. But you must Repent (Change your way of thinking and submit to God).
I respect a homosexual more who says Look, Im going to live my life the way I want.
I am not a believer and I am not going to obey God.
There is hope for God to change this man because he is operating in his God given right to make a choice to live life the way that you want to live it. Mind you, there are consequences to all of our choices.
But what dummie(respectfully) would say Im going to lie to myself and say that God loves me so much that He (God) is going to change and receive me into His Kingdom on my terms(as a homosexual).
If God did that then He owes me and everybody else, especially Jesus, an apology. Jesus paid an extremely high price for us to have the opportunity to be Gods children. The least that we could do is put on the proper clothes (holiness)(Matthew 22:9-14) to join The Family of God.
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That is the reason why God gave us commandments because He loves us.
You seem to view godly principles and discipline as a bad thing. I dont.
Im glad that Christ loved me enough to give me Hs righteous principles. I would probably have AIDS or some other sexually transmitted disease if I didnt stop sinning. The wages of sin is death. Period. Why would you want to practice something that will lead you to death and eternal separation from God .
Every good parent that loves their children, will teach them Godly principles like self-discipline, respect for others etc,, etc..
A child who refuses to submit to these principles is destined for destruction.
God, because He loves us, tells us how to live a successful life here on earth and He gives His instructions to any who has any plans to live with Him when they leave this earth.
What mature child believes that their parents discipline is bad. Im glad that I dont have to live like the devil. I am proud of the fact that I can be trusted and that I walk in integrity. I would probably be in prison today if I remained a liar. I wouldnt love you, unless I submitted to Christ commands to love your neighbor as myself and not look down on another human being. Its because of The Love of God and His Way of doing things that I am convinced that Gods Way is the best Way.
To be honest I used to feel sorry for homosexuals because I reasoned God says for the rest of their lives they cant have sex with whom they want to have sex. Until one day, I realized I cant have sex with everyone I want to have sex with either. I have to fight the feeling so that I can remain faithful to my spouse and I know for a fact, that is not easy. How many married heterosexual men and women only want to have sex with one man or one woman? Yet even in todays society it is considered immoral to run around on your spouse. So every married heterosexual has to fight the feeling and be committed to their spouse. Even if their not faithful, who would say, there is nothing wrong with having sex with whoever you want to have sex with if you are married. So every married heterosexual has to use discipline every day. Why is it that homosexuals get a free pass just because they were born with it. I was born with sin? Yet God didnt feel sorry for me. He said control your flesh and have sex with one (your spouse). Its amazing, he taught me discipline and now I know it can be done.
How come homosexuals are the only ones that can use the excuse I was born this way.
Why cant pedophiles or incest get a free pass? They have to resist their urges or they will live their lives in prison. So I dont feel a bit sorry for a homosexual person. Since I have to fight the feeling, you have to fight the feeling and line up with Gods word if you want to be in The Kingdom of God.
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Romans 10:9-If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is by believing in your heart that you are made right with God, and it is by confessing with your mouth that you are saved.
God is not saying, lie and say that you believe that Jesus is Lord and you can live anyway you want to live. Since you believe that He is Lord, you will do what He says.
Jesus said Luke 6:46-And why call ye Me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
How can you believe that you are right with God when you dont even agree with Him.
Matthew 11:20(NLT)- Then Jesus began to denounce the towns where He had done so many of His miracles, because they hadnt repented of their sins and turned to God.
21 What sorrow awaits you, Korazin and Bethsaida! For if the miracles I did in you had been done in wicked Tyre and Sidon, their people would have repented of their sins long ago, clothing themselves in burlap and throwing ashes on their heads to show their remorse. 22 I tell you, Tyre and Sidon will be better off on judgment day than you.
23 And you people of Capernaum, will you be honored in heaven? No, you will go down to the place of the dead. For if the miracles I did for you had been done in WICKED SODOM, it would still be here today. 24 I tell you, even Sodom will be better off on judgment day than you.
feetxxxl, notice Jesus talks about WICKED SODOM. Jesus said, if they would have had an experience with Christ, they would have repented(change their mind about their sin).
As I said before you can receive the message that Jesus gave or you can reject it.
That is your God given right to make a choice.
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To feetxxxl,
You dont have to get deep (The essence of homosexuality). Its very simple. All of us were born in sin. My sin was lying, fornicating, prejudice and a host of others.
Your sin is justifying homosexuality and a host of others. Unless you say there is no such thing as a sin. I will assume that you know better than that. Where would you get the knowledge of what sin is? God, The Righteous Judge. He was The One who wrote the rules, not me. I am not the judge. He is. He has already judged sin. As a believer, I have the responsibility to tell you about His Kingdom and what The Righteous Judge has already said.
God told me to tell the world about The Kingdom of God. Jesus came saying
Matthew 3:2-Repent ye: for The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand.
Repent means to change the way you think.
That is my message to a heterosexual sinner(whoremonger, fornicator, adulterer), homosexual (lesbian) sinner, a pedophile, a liar, a greedy person and every other sinner, Change the way you think.
Jesus Christ changed the way I think about life. He gave me God's thoughts and God's standards.
I used to think I couldn't live without having sex until he gave me a new nature and showed me I could wait until I got married. I thought evervbody lies until I developed integrity and discovered that I can be honest and speak the truth. I was once prejudice against homosexuals until He told me not to have respect of persons and to love a homosexual just like I would love myself.
I have a new nature. Im free from sin. I dont have to live by what my evil nature dictates to me(lying, hate, adultery). I live by Gods Love (His righteous commands).
I want to reach out to those who are homosexual, all of us came from the same pool of sin. You can be free through Gods Son, Jesus Christ.
feetxxxl,
According to you, I cant tell another human being what God said. Can the justice systems of this world tell a murderer you have committed a crime? What about a child molester?
Can an employer fire an employee for lying or cheating? Would you say that he doesnt have a right to judge? Is a man that cheats on his wife and gives her AIDS a sinner?
Is Osama Bin Laden a sinner? In your opinion I couldnt tell Osama Bin Laden that Jesus said Repent, for The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand. Is a person who would kill a homosexual in The Name of Christ a sinner? Is there such a thing as a liar? The answer is YES to all of these questions.
According to you we should not have any morals because we would be judging. Can I teach my children the difference between right and wrong?
I can and I will.
I wont force you to receive it, that is your choice but since I have The Love of Christ I will share with you Good News about Gods Kingdom.
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Christian Post 4:00 am 11-16-07
Many Christians need to repent and focus on their responsibility which is to love everyone and tell them about the change that Christ made in their lives. There are Christians who don't want to share the love of Christ with a homosexual person because they are showing respect of persons (prejudice) or respect of sin. They will speak out against homosexuality (Ellen, Rosie) but will say very little about fornication (Oprah). Many homosexuals have been hurt by Christians who have been so mean and hateful because they claim to disdain sin. If that were the case then why won't they love a homosexual enough to tell them about The Man who can set them free. We are fishers of men. You can't expect to clean a fish before you catch it. Our responsibility is to love a sinner and invite them into The Kingdom of God.
I believe that the reason why homosexuals are gaining more ground is that they know that Jesus loves them and that there are some Christians that are practicing sin because they are mean and hateful to them. They use that as an excuse to continue in sin. We as followers of Christ have to walk in love at all times toward anybody whether it be a homosexual or a heterosexual, a pedophile or a murderer. All have sinned and fallen short of God's glory. The issue is not about how filthy, it's about the redemptive work of Christ and how He alone can bring us into right relationship with God. Jesus said for God so loved the world (not the church)
that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever believes on Him shall not perish but have everlasting life.
Remember we were the world at some point in life.
Obviously to get into The Kingdom of God every homosexual has to repent (change his way of thinking) just like everybody else.
Romans 1:9,10 Dont you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit The Kingdom of God? Dont fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality, or are thieves, or greedy people, or drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat peoplenone of these will inherit the Kingdom of God.
As the body of Christ it is not our job to force them to believe but to lovingly let them know that Jesus loves them and they need to change their mind about sin. Leave the rest up to God.
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