How to Share Your Faith Using Tom Cruise's Scientology Rant

thorstenovergaard »

Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:53 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 4

@ SilentBefore & ChristianAnon: Really, you got the wrong sources. I can't discuss every piece of information "about Scientology" you dig up on the internet.

I'm sure you can see this; if we were to discuss Christianity or details of it and I found all kind of stuff, evidence and quotes from all sorts of people, people AGAINST christianity have posted online and unauthorized, seemingly quoted, etc. for you to comment. Would you play that game?

Any person is entitled to his own religion and his own viewpoints. You should be the first ones to recognize that the sources you refer to are ant-religion and anti-Scientology.

If you want to discuss Scientology principles, refer to books by L. Ron Hubbard which is the actual Scientology. One can also learn about Scientology be reading "What is Scientology?" which is a book not written by L Ron Hubbard, but a book published by the Church of Scientology to explain and answer questions about membership, what courses consist of, who's scientologist, etc. It's a non-religious text book and is also online for free reading:
http://www.whatisscientology.org

As for reincarnation, that is not the term used in Scientology. This is in fact covered in the 7th Dynamic of the eight dynamics I referred to at http://www.scientologyhandbook.org/SH2_2.HTM yesterday.

It reads "The seventh dynamic is the urge toward existence as or of spirits. Anything spiritual, with or without identity, would come under the heading of the seventh dynamic. This is separate from the physical universe and is the source of life itself. Thus there is an effort for the survival of life source."

What is stated in Scientology is that you're a spiritual being who will continue to exist after the death of the body. Nut if you reincarnate as a human, go to heaven or become a butterfly is really an open question. Only Scientology says you do not stop existing when your body dies and in that idea I think it is compatible with most religions.

Hope this clarifies.

How to Share Your Faith Using Tom Cruise's Scientology Rant

thorstenovergaard »

Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:58 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 25

It's an interesting take on the Tom Cruise video which is from a 150 minutes long event in October 2004 where the Tom Cruise part was about 30 minutes. The clips on the internet was cut to make it uncomprehegsive to anyone, making the exact point that you got out of it.

The original, however, made good sense and one can go to any Chuch of Scientology and see that (and has been able to do so since 2004). It's not a secret video, but the video on the net is not the one.

However, having been a scientologist for 20 years, let me just take up one point of misinformation in the above. <b>Scientology does not teach multiple gods</b>:

There is no "one god" in Scientology, nor is there "multiple gods."

L. Ron Hubbard describes the god term in "The Eight Dynamics" and the dynamic no 8 is described as: "The eighth dynamic is the urge toward existence as infinity. This is also identified as the Supreme Being. This can be called the infinity or God dynamic."

If one is interested in reading about all 8 dynamics, one can read about them here:
http://www.scientologyhandbook.org/SH2_2.HTM

I think the conclusion one can draw from this is that Scientology does not deny the existence of God, nor does Scientology teach you to believe in any or one special God. but it does teach you that some form of existence, known as God in a range of religions, is a fact. This also explains, in case anyone has been wondering, why Buddhists, Christians and other religious people has been able to use Scientology to improve conditions in life, without compromising their core belief.

I do not write this to offend or make you wrong. I'm just pointing out that the "multiple gods" is a misinformation.