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AWS First of all Dr Eddy started the Christian Science church, which is a cult that has beliefs not supported by Scripture, therefore, bringing up her name is a moot point as to Christian churches. Secondly, the same goes for Mother Teressa, as the catholic church has many practices and beliefs not in line with the Bible, including but not limited to the worship of saints and of Mary. While she...more
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First of all Dr Eddy started the Christian Science church, which is a cult that has beliefs not supported by Scripture, therefore, bringing up her name is a moot point as to Christian churches. Secondly, the same goes for Mother Teressa, as the catholic church has many practices and beliefs not in line with the Bible, including but not limited to the worship of saints and of Mary. While she did much good in India, she never once claimed to be a priest, or take on pastorial duties and responsibilities. Women have a strong place in service to God, but preaching from a pulpit is not one of them.less
Tellthe truth Doesn't Scripture say we are all one in the Lord? gal 3:28 says There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. When we are saved, we become grafted in Jews, adopted children of the Jewish Messiah, with all rights to the Father that natural born Jews have. Further, wasn't Luke a gentile d...more
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Doesn't Scripture say we are all one in the Lord? gal 3:28 says
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
When we are saved, we become grafted in Jews, adopted children of the Jewish Messiah, with all rights to the Father that natural born Jews have.
Further, wasn't Luke a gentile doctor? In addition, the book of Hebrews was written by an unknown author, possibly a gentile, because the layout of the Tabernacle as desctibed in Hebrews is not correct according the the layout given by God to Moses. the positioning of the articles in teh Holy of Holies is all wrong. A Jew would not have made that mistake. So, do you have a problem with gentile pastors? What about gentiles joining Messianic Jewish congregations? Since we are all grafted into the Jewish olive tree, thus spiritual Jews, I see no problem. My problem is people who claim to be Christians, yet say God is through with the Jews. Therein lies the rub.less
Logic, Thank you for the book title. If you can find it, there is a very old book, titles "The Black Pope (or perhaps Prophet?) that was written probably in the 20's or 30's and also written by a former priest. It delves deeply into the persecution of anyone who would not turn catholic, with graphic descriptions of their use of instruments of torture such as the Iorn Maiden, pendulem, iorn masks,...more
Logic, Thank you for the book title. If you can find it, there is a very old book, titles "The Black Pope (or perhaps Prophet?) that was written probably in the 20's or 30's and also written by a former priest. It delves deeply into the persecution of anyone who would not turn catholic, with graphic descriptions of their use of instruments of torture such as the Iorn Maiden, pendulem, iorn masks, the rack, etc.
The catholic is nortoriously antisemetic to this day. The current pope has embraced islam and the so called palistinian people, declaring them the rightful owners of Israel and Jerusalem, when the Bible is abundantly clear that it was given the the decendants of Abraham through Jacob and not Ishmael in an eternal covenamt. He got miffed when Israel refused to hade over to the catholic church deeds of eery holy site in the Holy land. Keep speaking the truth!less
RhiBran, I gotta say you are totally nuts to compare zionists living on Kibbutzs with coed dorms where the new ruling at Ohio State is not just coed buildings, with guys in one room and gals in another, but mixed sexes in the same room, which is what they have moronically decided is a good (??) idea. Those zionists who live on Kibbutzs are very moral people who are mostly ver conservative, orthod...more
RhiBran, I gotta say you are totally nuts to compare zionists living on Kibbutzs with coed dorms where the new ruling at Ohio State is not just coed buildings, with guys in one room and gals in another, but mixed sexes in the same room, which is what they have moronically decided is a good (??) idea. Those zionists who live on Kibbutzs are very moral people who are mostly ver conservative, orthodox Jews who would never dream of co habiting a room with someone of the opposite sex that they are not married to.
It woul dbe better for you to remain silent on things you obvioulsy know nothing about and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. Sheeeeesh!less
Konewone 2 Not to worry, we will ALL be here for the trib unless we have gone to glory before hand by natural means. The Bible is clear that MILLIONS will be saved during the tribulation period, nto withstanding those of us who are believers now. Take a second look at the second coming, and put preconceived notions and the teachings of men out of your mind. Study what the Bible actually SAYS abo...more
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Not to worry, we will ALL be here for the trib unless we have gone to glory before hand by natural means. The Bible is clear that MILLIONS will be saved during the tribulation period, nto withstanding those of us who are believers now. Take a second look at the second coming, and put preconceived notions and the teachings of men out of your mind. Study what the Bible actually SAYS about the rapture and resurrection to life. Every pre tribber I have ever argued this with has reverted to what pastor so-and-so said, or what Hal Lindsay says, or Tim Lahaye. They cannot find one scripture in the entire Bible that supports a pre trib rapture....for one good reason: It's Not there!less
PS. The only judgements of the tribulation that are God's Wrath as the bowl judgements which are after the trumpets. We are not appointed to Wrath, and wont' be here for those. The exodus from Egypt was given as a pattern for the greater exodus at the end of this age. Notice that those judgements were on the gods of Egypt. The judgements in the trib are on the 'gods' of this world, the 'gods'...more
PS. The only judgements of the tribulation that are God's Wrath as the bowl judgements which are after the trumpets. We are not appointed to Wrath, and wont' be here for those. The exodus from Egypt was given as a pattern for the greater exodus at the end of this age. Notice that those judgements were on the gods of Egypt. The judgements in the trib are on the 'gods' of this world, the 'gods' of the sea, the trees, grasses, etc as well as on those who take the mark of the beast. Just as God warned the Hebrews before each judgement in Egypt, thus preparing them and protecting them, He will protect His people during the tribulation. Have a little faith, folks! God wil bring us through!! And if we are destined to die? SO?? Jesus died for us. An undeserved, excruciating, humimating death. My hope and prayer is that if I am brought before the courts on a charge of being a Christian, that there is plenty of evidence to convict me of such a charge. If the antichrist wants my head, he's welcome to it. To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.less
I believe in the post trib rapture. Jesus said in Matt 24:29-31 that He will return for His church immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days. Pretty cut and dried to me! 2 Thes 2 states clearly that the church is here when the antichrist declares himself to be God and stops the sacrifices. 1 Cor 15:52 states that the rapture will occur at the LAST trumpet. The last trumpet is the 7th tru...more
I believe in the post trib rapture. Jesus said in Matt 24:29-31 that He will return for His church immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days. Pretty cut and dried to me! 2 Thes 2 states clearly that the church is here when the antichrist declares himself to be God and stops the sacrifices. 1 Cor 15:52 states that the rapture will occur at the LAST trumpet. The last trumpet is the 7th trumpet judgement of Revelation. Rev 20: 4-6 says:
4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They[a] had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.
This is abundantly clear that the tribulation saints who make it through, and those who are beheaded for His name are a part of the first resurrection. They MUST be or they have gone through the trib or died in vain. The only other resurrection is to death at the end of the 100 year reign.
While LaHAye can spin a good yarn, he is dead wrong about the timing of the rapture and resurrection. Further, the Great Tribulation is 3 1/2 years, not 7 as he teaches. Daniel is clear on that. It is 42 months. The first part of the time of Jacob's trouble is a time of false peace and prosperity, then, when the antichrist stops the sacrifices, the great tribulation begins and lasts for 42 months.less
Amazing how quickly they begin to do the back stroke isn't it! But he is not to be trusted. Have you seen the upcoming cover of I think Newsweek where Obama is pictured as the hindu god with many arms? They are bound and determined to picture him in some sort of "god" role to be worshipped. There was the one they showed of him positioned as if on a cross complete with a thorn crown. Disgusting...more
Amazing how quickly they begin to do the back stroke isn't it! But he is not to be trusted. Have you seen the upcoming cover of I think Newsweek where Obama is pictured as the hindu god with many arms? They are bound and determined to picture him in some sort of "god" role to be worshipped. There was the one they showed of him positioned as if on a cross complete with a thorn crown. Disgusting.less
You make some good points, and I agree that the downfall of nations throughout history can be linked to sin, and sexual sin in particular. I do not for noe moment beoieve that anyone is born homosexual. It is a learnd thing, a choice. Maybe something happened to these people who claim they felt "different" from childhood, or maybe they were called a sissy or a tom boy and it affected how they fel...more
You make some good points, and I agree that the downfall of nations throughout history can be linked to sin, and sexual sin in particular. I do not for noe moment beoieve that anyone is born homosexual. It is a learnd thing, a choice. Maybe something happened to these people who claim they felt "different" from childhood, or maybe they were called a sissy or a tom boy and it affected how they felt about themselves. Some children handle things like that normally and it doesn't affect them, others could take it to heart, and think that there is indeed something "different" about them and at that point start down the wrong path.
We are to love the sinner but hate the sin. Society wants us to embrace them and accept their life style choices as perfectly normal and acceptable, something which goes against decency and morality, and also against our faith as bron again Christians. We cannot do this and remain in the will of a Holy God.
We are also told that if a person won't turn from their sinful ways after a few warnings, we are t have nothign to do with them, not even eat a meal with them.
All we can do is continue to point the way to God's truth, pray for them, and then if they don't change, separate ourselves from them.less
steveh20 you wanted backup for my satement about homosexuality being an abomination. here it is. And I will repeat: GOD DOES NOT CREATE SOMETHING THAT HE CALLS ABOMINATION. He is NOT bi-polar! Lev 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind, it is abomination. Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they sha...more
steveh20 you wanted backup for my satement about homosexuality being an abomination. here it is. And I will repeat: GOD DOES NOT CREATE SOMETHING THAT HE CALLS ABOMINATION. He is NOT bi-polar!
Lev 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind, it is abomination. Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Romans 1: 22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible Go...more
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Lev 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind, it is abomination.
Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Romans 1: 22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
1 Cor 6: 9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Rev 21: 8But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Notice "abominable", this would include the abomination of homosexuality.less
Happy to oblige steveh20!! Lev 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind, it is abomination. Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Romans 1: 26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the ...more
Happy to oblige steveh20!!
Lev 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind, it is abomination.
Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Romans 1:
26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
1 Cor 6: 9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Rev 21: 8But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Notice "abominable", this would include the abomination of homosexuality.less
"Nearly half (47 percent) of young adults (age 18 to 34) said messages from places of worship are contributing “a lot” to negative views of gay and lesbian people." This is because decency and morality has been pushed out of the schools, along with God. Big Brother is busy de moralizing this country as fast as they can. They are bent on socialisim and mind control, and our younger generatio...more
"Nearly half (47 percent) of young adults (age 18 to 34) said messages from places of worship are contributing “a lot” to negative views of gay and lesbian people."
This is because decency and morality has been pushed out of the schools, along with God. Big Brother is busy de moralizing this country as fast as they can. They are bent on socialisim and mind control, and our younger generation is falling in line quite nicely.
Too many "churches" are embtracing this demonic "theology", preaching that people are bonr as homosexual, when they are NOT. God is not in the business creating abomination, which is what HE says about homosexuality. Those of you who are offend with that, take it up with the Creator of the universe, not me. I'm only stating the obvious.less
gayisnotasin "gay' is an ABOMIONATION. New International Version Rev 21:8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death." Gen.19:1-13 Sodom & Gamorah destroyed because of homosexuality Leviticus 18:22 22T...more
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"gay' is an ABOMIONATION.
New International Version Rev 21:8
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."
Gen.19:1-13 Sodom & Gamorah destroyed because of homosexuality
Leviticus 18:22 22Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Rom 1: 24-27
24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
No homosexuality is no JUST sin, it is much worse.less
Darshan The State of Israel is NOT "occupation of Palistine"!!! ISRAEL was Israel before there was a musim, and further, it is God's chosen land, named for Jacob, the grandson of Abraham. Issac, Jacob's father, was the CHOSEN seed of Abraham, NOT Ishmael. Israel was named "Palistine" by the Romans in 70 AD as an insult the the Jewish people. True there are Christian Arabs, but know this, thos...more
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The State of Israel is NOT "occupation of Palistine"!!! ISRAEL was Israel before there was a musim, and further, it is God's chosen land, named for Jacob, the grandson of Abraham. Issac, Jacob's father, was the CHOSEN seed of Abraham, NOT Ishmael. Israel was named "Palistine" by the Romans in 70 AD as an insult the the Jewish people. True there are Christian Arabs, but know this, those Christian Arabs do NOT have a hatred for Israel and the Jewish people. For that matter, many of the muslims who reside in Israel do not want to be under Islamic rule. They LIKE living under Jewish rule, because they actually have freedom, which they would not have otherwise. Sacred Scripture (the Holy Bible, the true Word of God) is clear that Israel was given to the Jewish people in an ETERNAL covenant by God.
Know your Bible, and know your history before you choose to denigrate God's chosen people, the JEWS. IF you are a Christian, and I mean a true Christian, you are grafted into the Jewish family, NOT the Arabic one. God loves the Arabic people, but unless they accept His Son as their Messiah, and turn from the barbatic, blood thirsty false religion that is Islam, they are just as lost as an athiest..less
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