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JC, your babbling is meaningless and boring. Perhaps you would like to comment about the paragraph below. If you don't understand it, go to YouTube and search for "chromosome 2".
The human chromosome pair 2 has a block of telomeres (normally only found at chromosome ends) in the middle, a banding pattern in the two halves of chromosome 2 virtually identical to two respective chromosome pairs present in all of the great apes (which have one more chromosome pair than humans), and banding pattern correspondence between each other human pair and a corresponding great ape pair.
"We know God in an intimate and personal way."
Boring. I don't care about your invisible friend. I'm not interested in your fantasies.
You know nothing about biological evolution. All you know about is your medieval beliefs in supernatural magic. You could educate yourself, but even if you weren't too lazy to study science, I doubt you could understand any of it. -
wilderness, if you spent as much time researching biology as you spend researching me, you would be an evolution expert.
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JC: "a complete breakdown of this society"
Is this why you are so afraid of biological evolution? Do you really think biology equals a complete breakdown of this society? I noticed biologists are not trying to break down the society they live in. Perhaps you are just looking for an excuse to not study biological evolution.
A few comments ago on this thread I said "I have never in my life known anybody more lazy and more afraid of education than the creationists.” Nothing since then has changed my mind. I have seen no evidence for any creationist here wanting to learn something.
I earlier suggested that creationists here should get on YouTube and search for "Chromosome 2". How many creationists have done this? Zero. The creationists just don't care. They like their medieval fantasy world, and they are not going to let education interfere with their delusions. It's much safer and much easier to remain ignorant and not think. That's what Christianity is all about, the fear and complete rejection of thinking and science education. -
"Scientists cannot, with any amount of certainty, tell us where this planets origins came from, let alone the rest of the solar system."
That's not true. Scientists have an excellent understanding about how stars and planets and moons form, a process that continues today all over the universe.
Do you know how our planet and our moon formed? You should look it up. It's one of the most interesting discoveries of science.
Why did you bring this up? Planet formation has nothing to do with biological evolution. Biologists will be learning more about biological evolution forever, but what they already know is amazing. Even more amazing there are still some non-scientists who deny the facts of evolution, despite the powerful and rapidly growing evidence for it. Biologists are no longer trying to prove evolution because it's been considered a fact for more than a century, but every new discovery adds to the growing mountain of evidence for it. -
"this has devolved to an evolution/athiest post"
Like gravity, evolution has nothing to do with the existence or non-existence of gods. Like gravity, biological evolution is just science.
Since the topic of this thread is "Equating Animals with Humans", evolution is not off-topic. -
"I can say that I do not know if evolution is true..."
Would you say the same thing about gravity?
This sounds dumb: "I can say that I do not know if gravity is true"
This isn't any better: "I can say that I do not know if evolution is true" -
"In any case, the evolution/creation debate is of no consequence."
There is NO debate about it in the scientific community. All biologists reject magical creation. All biologists accept evolution.
Outside the science community there is a debate about it because some non-scientists don't want to educate themselves. This is disgraceful, but it would be no problem if the creationists kept their anti-science ideas out of our schools. Unfortunately the liars for Jesus are constantly trying to force science teachers to do their lying for them. These attacks on science education most certainly have consequences, very negative consequences. -
"evolutionists have admitted that the big bang theory wasn't correct"
They're called biologists, not evolutionists. Biology is not Cosmology, but I doubt there's very many scientists from any branch of science who has a problem with the Big Bang. You're making things up, also known as lying. -
By the way, anyone can get on YouTube and search for "chromosome 2". They will find several videos that explain it, so there's no excuse for not understanding this stuff.
It can't be said often enough - creationists are willfully ignorant. I have never in my life known anybody more lazy and more afraid of education than the creationists. I have never been proven wrong about their laziness and their fear of science, and I strongly doubt I ever will be proven wrong. -
Chris, you spent 3 comments talking about me, as if I was an important subject, but you said nothing about the paragraph below. This is typical of Christians. When the subject is science, they only want to talk about people. Christians prefer to talk about people because they want to avoid talking about something they don't understand, scientific facts.
The human chromosome pair 2 has a block of telomeres (normally only found at chromosome ends) in the middle, a banding pattern in the two halves of chromosome 2 virtually identical to two respective chromosome pairs present in all of the great apes (which have one more chromosome pair than humans), and banding pattern correspondence between each other human pair and a corresponding great ape pair.
"either the Christians who reject Evolution are wrong and they have misinterpreted the Bible, or the Scientists are wrong and they have wrongly interpreted the evidence."
Well, which is it? Do you completely accept the fact that humans developed from other animals, or not?
"I don't know" is not a very good answer. "No" is also not a very good answer. The above paragraph, which is a very short explanation of one of the many smoking-gun proofs of evolution, is accepted by ALL of the top scientists of the world.
What I'm looking for here is the creationists who have been lying about evolution need to admit they are not smarter than the world's top scientists, and they need to admit they have been wrong all their lives. If they have enough sense to accept reality, I will congratulate them. Unfortunately it's not going to happen. The constant lying about science is never going to end on this blog. There is some commandment about lying being wrong, but for Christians dishonesty is OK if the lying is for Jesus. -
Who wants to explain why the following paragraph is not lead-pipe evidence for our close relationship with the other Great Apes? Every biologist in the world agrees this evidence shows beyond any doubt evolution is a fact. I challenge the creationists here to explain why thousands of biologists are wrong, including the top scientists of the world.
The human chromosome pair 2 has a block of telomeres (normally only found at chromosome ends) in the middle, a banding pattern in the two halves of chromosome 2 virtually identical to two respective chromosome pairs present in all of the great apes (which have one more chromosome pair than humans), and banding pattern correspondence between each other human pair and a corresponding great ape pair.
Creationists, don't be afraid to admit you have been wrong all your life. You will get nothing but praise from me if you are willing to accept reality. If you refuse to give up your Dark Ages ideas, scientists will laugh at you for the rest of your lives. -
Chris333, if you are so afraid of viewpoints that disagree with your strange medieval beliefs, why don't you stay away from the internet? I noticed you prefer to insult people (10 year old) instead of defending your belief in magic. I'm not surprised. Christians have no moral values, and they have no evidence for their delusions, so they insult people who disagree with them.
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Chris333, wild dreams about evolution?
You need to explain to the top scientists of the world why you are so much smarter than them.
I'm still waiting for your apology. You and the other everything-is-magic creationists also need to apologize to the entire scientific community for insulting their integrity. -
seedplanter, why don't you explain your total ignorance of science to the National Academy of Sciences. Also, you need to talk to the biologists of MIT and Harvard and explain to them why you know more about biology than they do.
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Chris333, 10 year old? You owe me an apology.
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I'm glad to see you are aware of scientific discoveries as recently as 1858. However, this is 2008.
Do you know how scientists test for paternity in humans? The same method is used to test for evolutionary relationships. Do you know how that's done? Do you know how Neil Shubin was able to predict where he could find the fossils he was looking for? His prediction was correct. He found exactly what he was looking for on a remote Canadian island near the Arctic Circle. It was named tiktaalik roseae and it was your ancestor from 375 million years ago. It was a transitional animal between fish and land animals.
"most notable was Thomas Edison Christian."
Thomas Edison [1847-1931] American inventor
"I have never seen the slightest scientific proof of the religious ideas of heaven and hell, of future life for individuals, or of a personal God."
"I do not believe that any type of religion should ever be introduced into the public schools of the United States."
"So far as religion of the day is concerned, it is a damned fake... Religion is all bunk."
“I cannot believe in the immortality of the soul. . . . I am an aggregate of cells, as, for instance, New York City is an aggregate of individuals. Will New York City go to heaven? . . . . No; nature made us--nature did it all--not the gods of the religions.” The New York Times, Oct. 2, 1910 -
"O ya chimps brains are not the same as humans they're smaller. and if they're so smart show me their computers, their I-pods, their Empire State buildings."
Yes, the human brain is larger. However the structure of the chimpanzee brain and the human brain is exactly the same, which supports the idea these two species are closely related. Despite our larger brain, tests have shown the chimps to have a better short term memory than humans. -
"I do not believe in a magician I believe in an all powerful God."
What's the difference? Both perform magic tricks. -
Eat, I'm still waiting for your evidence for magical creation.
strider, OK, you believe it all. Please give my compliments to your brainwashers. They were very effective.
Eat, we have more in common with chimpanzees than any other animal. For example the structure of the chimp brain and human brain is identical. The only difference is our brain evolved to become larger. Please understand we did not evolve from chimps. Both chimps and humans evolved differently and both are descended from the same common ancestor.
Your claim about the evidence I gave you being evidence for a common magician is an insult to the entire scientific community. You owe them an apology. It's interesting to me that Christians who don't even know how to spell science think they are qualified to make scientific claims that conflict with evidence from the hard work of the top scientists in the world. It's like somebody who knows nothing about brain surgery telling a brain surgeon how to do his job. -
strider: "If God can make the very rocks cry out in cheering (Luke 19:40)..."
Luke 19:40: "I tell you," he replied, "if they keep quiet, the stones will cry out."
Stones crying out? strider, is there any nonsense in the Bible you don't believe?
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