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Relating Climate Change to Poverty 'Vital', Says Head of Catholic Relief Network

By Aaron J. Leichman|Christian Post Reporter

The leader of a confederation of 162 Catholic relief, development and social service groups says it is “vital” for humanitarian organizations to relate climate change to the issue of poverty and to address the factors that make people vulnerable to climate change.

“Climate change exacerbates existing vulnerabilities,” says Caritas Internationalis Secretary General Lesley-Anne Knight, who will be speaking at this week’s Global Humanitarian Forum in Geneva.

The two-day forum, which concludes Wednesday, has drawn concerned leaders from around the world who wish to formulate a response to the human impact of climate change.

According to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, 2009 is a crucial year in the international effort to address climate change.

In December, national government delegations who agreed to shape an ambitious international response to climate change in 2007 will be meeting for an end-of-the-year summit in Copenhagen, where they will seek to agree on a post-2012 climate agreement that will replace the current Kyoto protocol.

Earlier this month, the delegations concluded their second round of negotiations, completing the first rough sketch of a new global warming agreement.

According to some scientists, industrialized nations must cut emissions by 25 to 40 percent from 1990 levels by 2020 to prevent climate disasters, such as coastal flooding from rising sea levels, severe weather events, and variations in rainfall and temperatures that will affect agriculture and wipe out species of plants and animals.

Under the current Kyoto Protocol, 37 industrial countries are required to cut emissions a total 5 percent from 1990 by 2012. The World Wildlife Fund for Nature calculated that the current declarations from wealthy countries amount to a total emissions cut of just 10 percent by 2020.

During this week’s forum, Caritas’ Knight is expected to tell concerned leaders that the effects of climate change will be felt the most by the poorest who lack the resources to protect themselves. She will also call for a deal at climate change talks in Copenhagen this December to lower greenhouse gas emissions and provide the aid necessary for developing countries to adapt to severe weather caused by climate change.

“The unpalatable truth is that there will be a price to be paid for a solution to climate change. And that price will have to be paid by the ordinary people of the developed world, who have benefitted from the growth and development that is causing climate change,” Knight plans to say, according to Caritas. “This means, quite simply, that high consumers will have to accept a reduced standard of living.”

Earlier this month, U.K.-based Christian Aid said rich countries risk “wrecking” key U.N. talks on climate change, having “failed to commit to dramatic curbs in their greenhouse emissions, or recognize the scale of funding poor countries urgently need to cope with the impacts of global warming.”

“'Without real progress on commitments by the rich world, the negotiations will collapse,” commented Nelson Muffuh, Christian Aid's senior climate advocate.

“They must come back to the next round of talks willing to act and to agree to ambitious, quantified financial support for adaptation and mitigation in developing countries, as well as technology transfer,” Muffuh added.

U.N. climate delegates are currently looking forward to the next round of talks in August, when the roughly 200-page second draft is expected to be whittled down to a more manageable size following decisions by political leaders.

World leaders, meanwhile, will meet several times later this year, beginning with a Group of Eight summit in July, with climate change on the agenda.

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  • Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:06 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "Wow. Now the catholic church is getting onboard with government propaganda. Good luck with that one. FYI God is the only one that can control climate. From the beginning climate has changed over and over..."
    You Wake up! This outfit is no more the Catholic Church than Catholics for a Free Choice is?

    The real cause of climate change is Cow Farting (brown house gases); suggest all on this site send one Cork to Al Gore (chief polluter in the world) and have him go and plug up these sphincter muscles. And send a message to all in your in boxes to multiply the effect by mailing to Al (a guy whom I threw out of my meeting in New Hampshire in 1991) Remember this is the guy who lost his own state when he ran for President because his own people knew him too well. This is BO/Gore plot to tax each American $ 6,600.00 ea year per family as a Cap & Trade bill which the largest country polluters are not even participating in - China and India (they have brains)

    (I shouldn't have been so rough on WAKE UP; at least he got the words right "catholic church." Thanks)

  • Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:19 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Hello weekender

    I appreciate your concern, its fine thank you.

    BW

    Steve

  • Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:18 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Hello scientist

    First of all and without hesitation I would like to offer my apologies for getting the name of the gentleman incorrect, and any cooments that may have arisen form that, mia culpa.

    I'd like to think we agree that the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere is increasing, this can be observed through such ongoing work (since 1957) at Mauna Loa in Hawaii and in other stations around the world such as the South Pole and as I mentioned the increase since 1957 has been from 317 ppm to 380ppm (in 2006), this increase in its flux is attributed to anthropogenic behaviour with the burning of fossil fuels as there are no natural circumstances to account for this (at least at this time). The intresting thing to see will be how the carbon atmospheric reservoir regains equillibrium with the other carbon reservoirs and over what time scale that will occur. In keeping with Le Chateliers principle, this will have to occur, the most obvious equillibrium reaction will be with the carbon reservoir in the ocean first of all and then the other longer term ones (deep ocean etc..). Will this lead to a change in climate, I have to admit I don't know, but with more carbon in the atmosphere and the reservoirs out of equillibrium there will have to be an re adjustment to achive balance within the carbon cycle. If we increase it,it has to go somewhere and the system demands eqillibrium.

    BW

    Steve

  • Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:59 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    To steveh20,

    You're right about a molecules effectiveness, but water vapor & CO2 aren't that far apart in GHG absorbtion.
    I wrote Vaclav Haus, not Havel. Havel was their 1st modern President, who was an author. Haus is the current President & has lived under Communism for most of his life. For most of that time, he was a reformer.
    I could have said many things about man-made GHG's that would support my viewpoint. Like the fact that CO2's effects do not increase linearly with a linear increase in CO2 amount. It decreases logarthymically (I know I spelled that wrong). All of the computer models (which is the only place that the alarmists predictions are made) show linear effects only. In other words, if you double the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, it means that you produce way less than double the effect.
    You sound like an educated person. You might really enjoy www.junkscience.com. I suggest you go there and wade thru all of there research.

  • Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:57 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Whether or not I "get over it," Stevie, my eternal security is secure. How is yours?

  • Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:45 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Wow. Now the catholic church is getting onboard with government propaganda. Good luck with that one. FYI God is the only one that can control climate. From the beginning climate has changed over and over. If it is going to change again, man is NOT going to stop it. 3% of greenhouse gas is created by man. This agenda has been established to create a carbon credit bundoggle and to tax every person in the world. WAKE UP!!

  • Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:02 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I'm not sure how I have hoodwinked anybody, but I hope you do get over it weekender.

  • Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:36 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Yes, Steve, I have a problem with you not understanding common sense and how the liberals (like you) are trying to hoodwink the rest of us. But I'll get over it, because greater is He who is in me than he who is in the world. :)

  • Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:26 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Problems? Weekender.

  • Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:11 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "No one is trying to grow the government or stifle business."

    LOLOLOL! Get your head out of the sand and start listening to the news!

    Steve: Blah, blah, blah, blah. . .

  • Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:46 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Weekender,if you have gone through my posts especially todays, you will note that I have not claimed climate change is happening at all, I simply wrote that the fact that the seasons are caused by the Earth's tilt is neither a liberal or conservative issue, its just a fact has much as pi or new plate material is produced at Mid Ocean Ridges.

    Scientist, some feed back on your % figures. I'm not going to focus on them, but the figures themselves mean nothing is you don't then relate that to the strength of each molecule as green house gas. A good example of this is that Carbon Dioxide is far more powerful than water vapour, in that regard you need far far less of it to be effective (since 1957 it has risen from 317 ppm to 380 ppm in the atmosphere), and methane leaves them all behind. Remember, context is important, without it, the figures are meaningless. Just out of interest, Havel was a play write, how can we take him to be an authority on the subject, or is that good enough for you? I'm doing the carbon cycle at university at the moment, its fascinating.

  • Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:43 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Even if climate change isn't the looming catastrophe that is claimed, it's about time we and other industrialized nations were better stewards of our planet. No one is trying to grow the government or stifle business. This is an attempt to get all parties contributing to pollution to be more responsible and have concern for the vast majority that don't benefit, as they do, from their spoiling of our natural resources.

    I think the problem is that so many Americans these days aren't exposed to the by products of industry. Since they aren't subjected to the health hazards caused by industrial corner cutting and lax adherence to the current regulations, they don't see that it is a serious threat to health, if not the planet.

    The outburst of environmentalism in the 60s and 70s has died and even been cut back. It's taken 30 years to ask automakers to improve their fleet MPG. Bush tried rolling back the laws that have started to clean up our air and water. People are criticizing even sensible, legitimate environmental concerns as an imposition on the god of business. Live in an industrialized center for a few weeks and tell me we can't do more, that we can't get business to recognize it's responsibilities to its neighbors and its nation, that we can't cut back on auto-pollution and get back to cleaning up the messes we've already made through indifference and worship of the profit margin. There are more important things on this earth than the bottom line.

  • Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:58 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    LOL, Steve. All one has to do to see that you're a huge liberal is to click on your name, and they'll be taken to all the posts you've left on this Bible-based Christian site. :)

  • Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:35 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Steve: I know you're a lib because (as I stated in an earlier post below) it's the libs who are whining about "climate change" and "global warming" as a scare tactic to push their political agenda of growing Big Government and curtailing private enterprise.

    BTW, notice how you say this is not a liberal/conservative issue, yet almost every liberal is moaning about man causing "global warming" and almost every conservative is on the other side of the issue. Sure sounds like a political lib/conservative issue to me! :)

  • Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:43 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Climate change is the snake oil of the 21st century. Go to www.juknscience.com or www.heartland.org for rational discussions on this topic. About 96% of all greenhouse gases(GHG) is water vapor. CO2 is about 3%. Of that 3%, 96% is naturally occurring. Only 4% of 3% (0.12%)is due to manmade. Even if we cut all CO2 emissions tomorrow, it wouldn't make the slightest difference.
    As the President of the Czech republic, Vaclav Haus, said, "Climate change is the new communism".
    Over 31,000 scientists & climatologists have signed a petition stating that the "debate is definitely not over & mankind is probably not the cause of climate change". This towers over the 1,700 scientists & POLITICIANS that make up the IPCC.
    Actually, since 1998, the Earth has been getting colder, just like in 1975 when some scientists were then worried about 'global cooling'.
    Al Gore has gotten rich off of this topic. If he's so convinced of it and if he's an expert, why won't he debate ANY climatologist. Junkscience.com had a clock that's ticking off the seconds since they made this request. its been years and he refuses their offer.

  • Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:18 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    P.s How do you know I am a lib? Is it part of your defense mechanism to accuse?

  • Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:16 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Sorry weekender we are a bit out of synch here as I was just changing a spelling and rounding it off. This is not a matter of being a lib (as you likie to say) or a conservative this is just basic Earth science. Whether one is a lib or conservative seasons are still due to the Earth's tilt,I'm not saying climate change is or is not occurring, just setting the basic facts correct. Do you think then its a lib thing to say seasons are caused by the Earth's tilt then?

  • Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:08 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    No, chage of seasons is not climate change. Whether climate change is occuring or not, seasons are diffrent. Seasons occur because of the tilt in the Earths axis in relation to it's orbital plain, if there was no tilt there would be no seasons, however there still could be climate change. This could be due to many reasons whether it be, increase in carbon dioxide, water vapour or aresols in the atmosphere,or increase or decrease in planetary albedo, mountain building etc.. which could increse or decrease Earth's GMST or change the planets heat redistribution systems.

  • Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:07 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Steve: You libs like to make everything so confusing so you can punish corporations and take more freedoms away from citizens as you give more power to Big Government, but natural events are actually much more simple.

    Seasons change, in a natural cycle. The earth warms and cools, in a natural cycle that's been going on ever since the world has been in existence. It's actually a very similar process. When I was in elementary school we were warned of a global ice age; more recently we were warned of "global warming." When that too was found to be a fraud, the name of this was changed to "climate change," so that no matter what happens in the atmosphere the libs could pat themselves on the back and say "See, we told you so!"

    BTW, there's no charge for this basic tutorial in real life. :)

  • Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:07 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Climate change has been going on forever. It's called the change of seasons. We need to do all we can to fight poverty -- and evangelical groups are in the forefront of this battle -- but penalizing industry for something they're not causing is not going to put more food in the mouths of people.

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