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Society|Wed, Jul. 08 2009 10:27 AM EDT

Gay Marriages Now Recognized in D.C.

By Nathan Black|Christian Post Reporter

Same-sex marriages performed in other states and countries are now recognized in the nation's capital.

A law recognizing gay and lesbian couples who legally married outside the district took effect on Tuesday.

While issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples remains illegal, D.C. Council member David Catania said he plans to introduce legislation in the fall that would allow same-sex marriage ceremonies in Washington.

The bill, approved by the D.C. Council in May, became law after a failed attempt by conservatives, including ministers, to receive approval for a referendum.

In a lawsuit, filed by the Alliance Defense Fund, they asked to delay enactment of the law recognizing same-sex marriages performed elsewhere as they sought a referendum, which would allow voters to decide on the matter.

D.C. Superior Court Judge Judith E. Retchin rejected the request last week and said a referendum would violate the Human Rights Act, which prohibits discrimination against gays and lesbians.

The ruling was in agreement with an earlier decision by the D.C. Board of Elections and Ethics which also denied the proposal to take the issue to voters.

Bishop Harry Jackson of Hope Christian Church in Beltsville, Md., who was leading the effort for a referendum, says the bill was passed without any public input and simply wants the voters to have their say on the controversial matter.

Continuing the marriage fight, Jackson plans to file a ballot initiative that defines marriage as between a man and a woman.

Under the new law, same-sex couples married in other states are entitled to the same legal rights and benefits as other married couples.

New York also recognizes same-sex marriages performed in other states. Same-sex marriage is currently legal in six states, which include Massachusetts, Connecticut, Iowa, Vermont, Maine and New Hampshire.

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  • Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:42 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 3

    "Prophet, you must be kidding me. Do you read the Bible with an open heart? Paul was not judging..."

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    And neither am I.

  • Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:41 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 0

    Prophet, you must be kidding me. Do you read the Bible with an open heart? Paul was not judging, and its sick that you want to say he was so you can justify your own judgment.

  • Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:36 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    "You can keep on waiting, what I spoke was true."

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    Yes, it was your truth, but not the Bible's.

  • Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:13 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    You can keep on waiting, what I spoke was true.

  • Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:48 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I'll wait for a better rebuttal.

  • Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:56 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Prophet, I realize you're simple, so let me break this down. Paul was giving a warning, that is, he wasn't speaking to a person saying "You're a fornicator, you won't go to heaven!" He was saying "Listen up people, if you do these things without repentence you will not go to heaven." What you are doing is judging, because you are specifically telling me I will not go to heaven based on your interpretation of a text that does not say homosexual. See the difference?

  • Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:58 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I'm glad you agree. So you'll stop accusing us of judging. All we are doing is warning you that if you continue to live in sin, you're going to hell.

  • Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:50 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    That is exactly what I said...and warning us is not judging.

  • Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:41 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "Prophet, Paul was not judging because he was not telling someone "you will not go to heaven." He was, however, warning us."

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    Actually, yes, he was warning us that if we continue to practice such sin we will not go to heaven.

  • Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:10 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Prophet, I would not defend their actions, but I would not say whether they're going to hell or not. If you want to call that politically correct or watered down, you go right ahead.

    Prophet, Paul was not judging because he was not telling someone "you will not go to heaven." He was, however, warning us.

  • Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:45 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    So when Paul said "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." That he was lying? He was judging?

  • Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:35 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "Prophet, I would not think it is for us to decide whether or not he's going to hell. No one knows what goes through a person's mind as they're dying, nor should we be making that decision for God."

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    Typical watered-down, culturally palatable, politically correct garbage. A person who is willfully and unrepentantly practicing sin is going to hell. True, a person can repent at his last breath, but until that point they are going to hell. So, again, I am correct. But, again, you are a master of political speak in attempting to circumvent the actual point.
    Also, if a person who is a professed Christian continues to murder, or rape, or whatever else...you would still consider them a Christian going to heaven?
    If so, then I hope you don't say anything bad about the likes of Jimmy Swaggart or Ted Haggard. Actually, If that is so, I hope you are defending them. With all the people judging them for their actions, do you defend them with the phrase "Who are you to judge?" or do you keep silent?

  • Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:09 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    Hyperion, sorry, but you only speak falsities. You pretend I am some godless queer because its easier for you to then right me off and not even entertain the idea that I correctly interpret the Bible (which I do.)

    Prophet, I would not think it is for us to decide whether or not he's going to hell. No one knows what goes through a person's mind as they're dying, nor should we be making that decision for God.

    I am glad Brit is leaving. One less person who believes they have the truth and refuse to have a dialogue. For a Christian, I can't remember a pleasant conversation with her.

  • Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:18 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Brit, take care. I wish you well. It sounds to me like you are maturing.

  • Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:32 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    Round and round and round we go.....is this merrygoround ever going to stop, I don't think so.
    It's making me dizzy, so I have to get off, for good this time.
    All the time we are on here with these people there are others out in the world that will listen to us.
    I understand that some may not be able to get out of the house, for whatever reason, but those of us who can, should stop debating, because that is all it is and get out there and take the gospel to those who are thirsting for it.

    It's the same with the homosexuals as it is with the catholics on here, they don't want to listen to sound doctrine and unfortunately most of them never will.

    I won't be back on here again, it's a waste of time, of which there isn't much.

    Lets take the gospel to those who might recieve it, not debate with those who won't.
    Take it explain it and then move on, but be there for those who have genuine questions and concerns for their souls.

    There is someone out there waiting to here the gospel from us and we are here debating with apostates, what a waste and a shame, don't you think?

    Goodbye, God bless and think on, lets go and get some more brothers and sisters for Christ. :)

  • Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:49 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I wonder if I said that a serial killer, with no remorse for his actions, was going to hell, if Mike would agree, or would he say "Who are you to judge whether he is a sinner or not?"

    Sin is sin. It is our right, and obligation, to point it out among our brethern.
    There is a consequence for practicing sin. It is our right, and obligation, to point that out among our brethern.

  • Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:10 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Someone found the truth to be offensive and flagged it, so I'll just post it again.

    Jesus did not come to change what is sin and what is not. He came to change the consequences of sin.

  • Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:08 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "Prophet, your interpretation does not make something truth. So sorry!"

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    I know, but the Word of God makes it the truth, though.

  • Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:15 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    al, on the Canadian Pastor unfortunately I could not view the letter, but if indeed the writer of the letter encouraged violent acts against homosexuals the writer should be held liable. But one letter does not make your and other posters claim valid by any means. I'm sure there are some in the homosexual community who advocate violence against those who oppose their lifestyle but I would not condemn the entire homosexual community or hold the entire homosexual community liable for the beliefs of that one person. Yes there are people like Fred Phelps and others who profess to be Christians who are hate mongers but hate mongering is not limited to the evangelical community and they are very much in the minority in the evangelical community and for you to hold the entire evangelical community liable for that small minority is totally unfair on your part.

  • Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:57 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    al, visited those cbs5 sites and while they talked about attacks on a transgender teen and homosexuals in 2008 none of then mentioned any link of any kind let alone a direct link to the preaching and teaching of the sins of homosexuality.

  • Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:49 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    hman, nice copout but you still haven't provided any substantiation for the specific incident you shared or could it be the incident never took place?

  • Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:12 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Prophet »Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:03 am Jesus never said anything about drugs, pornography, polygamy, or drunkeness. So they must be okay too.
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    In response: I offer you a challenge for you to read a blog entry then respond on the very same blog and simply respond following exactly what was asked when answering.

    Surely such a wise christian as yourself can do that? Here is the link and the blog entry:

    http://alockslee.blogspot.com/Where are the written words of Jesus?

    Go ahead and try it, stick to the guidelines given they are very easy and just answer the questions.

    Thanks

    http://alockslee.blogspot.com/Where are the written words of Jesus?
    TFR

  • Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:04 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    believer »Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:44 pm hman, plus you have yet to substantiate your claim that thugs are beating up people they suspect as being homosexual as a result of sitting under the preaching or teaching of the sins of homosexuality. Not a story about it but a site we can go to and read the details of these incidents of violence against homosexuals to include citing the link between the violence and preaching and teaching about the sins of homosexuality.
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    In response: look here for your proof:

    http://cbs5.com/national/Zapata.andrade.transgender.2.991610.html

    http://cbs5.com/video/?id=47623@kpix.dayport.com

    http://cbs5.com/national/anti.gay.violence.2.894042.html

    Thats just a few and with video too! Remember the one and I think you posted it about the pastor who was convicted of inciting a hate crime well he ya go...

    http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/story/2007/11/30/boissoin-ruling.html

    I think that is enough for now.
    http://alockslee.blogspot.com/Mindcontrolled fundies and brainwashed evangelicals (for the full report)
    TFR

  • Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:48 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Flagged as inappropriate. show Believer wrote: "you have yet to substantiate your claims" Again. If you ask them to tone it down, they threaten to CUT YOUR FREAKING HANDS OFF! And they demand proof that their spoken and written CALLS FOR MURDER actually LEAD to murder. :-) hide

  • Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:24 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    If any of you have not repented of your sin and trusted the Lord Jesus Christ alone as your own and personal Saviour, you are going to go to hell if you die tonight.

    There is no way out of this, it's a fact.

    If you have done the above, you are a born again Christian and if you die tonight you are going to be with Christ.

    A born again Christian knows this, there is no, "I don't know where I'm going when I die" if you don't know where you are going, you have never trusted Christ and his finished work on calvary.

    The Lord Jesus Christ has done it all and if you believe you can add to that, you are guilty of trampling on his precious blood, you are saying that what he did is not good enough.

    There is only one good enough and he died ONCE FOR ALL, there is nothing left for us to do, but to surrender to him.

  • Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:40 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Prophet, your interpretation does not make something truth. So sorry!

  • Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:44 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    hman, plus you have yet to substantiate your claim that thugs are beating up people they suspect as being homosexual as a result of sitting under the preaching or teaching of the sins of homosexuality. Not a story about it but a site we can go to and read the details of these incidents of violence against homosexuals to include citing the link between the violence and preaching and teaching about the sins of homosexuality.

  • Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:39 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    hman, you're getting really boring in your murder chant and to say children are coming to believe they are an abomination is plain foolishness on your part especially considering most children have no clue what their sexual orientation is and the fact that God calls the sins of homosexuality an abomination and not the homosexual.

  • Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:05 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Jesus did not come to change what is sin and what is not. He came to change the consequences of sin.

  • Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:51 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Flagged as inappropriate. show Propnhet wrote: "no amount of arguing can change God's view of homosexuality." But the truth is that no amount of arguing can change the human and evil call for MURDER in Leviticus 20:13 to make it God's view of homosexuality. It's a murder threat. It is not a command from God. hide

  • Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:47 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Well, the truth according to the Scriptures is that homosexuality is a sin. Aside from my own personal views, unfortunately that's just the truth. There are many things that the Bible calls a sin that I wish it wouldn't, but I've learned to accept that as I mature. Those who have matured have learned to accept the truth, and those who remain but children argue their right to sin. But no amount of arguing can change God's view of homosexuality.

  • Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:44 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    You're right, it doesn't, thanks for asking!

  • Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:21 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "Prophet, just like with the Bible, you see what you want to see."

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    But that doesn't apply to you, though, does it? LOL.

  • Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:20 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Prophet, just like with the Bible, you see what you want to see.

  • Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:09 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Flagged as inappropriate. show Believer wrote: "hman, and that meanness on my part would be?" I know you are making an effort Believer, and that's good. But you call for violence against gay people by claiming that Leviticus 20:13 is a command from God. I know that there is a qualification (a limitation) on this in *your* mind - that it *used* to be a command from God but is not supposed to be enforced any more. But that does not matter. When children and drugged up street thugs hear you *say* that God calls for gay people to be dragged out of their homes and murdered, it does not matter if that is not what you actually *mean*. Street thugs get the message FROM YOU that they can score points with "God" by draggging people out of their homes and beating them to death with rocks. If they happen to kill a few people who aren't even gay, that's okay, because at least they killed some gay people. Children get the message FROM YOU that their lives are an abomination to God. That is how you are mean. The *truth* is that it never was a command from God. It was merely the law at the time. That law was every bit as evil then is at is now. It would be great if you would work on refining your message so you do not call for this murder and abomination. hide

  • Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:09 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Hyperion,

    "didn't he speak on decency standards? and about traditional marriage?"

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    I'm glad Mike agrees with you. Because you just proved my point. Jesus talked about traditional marriages...between a man and a woman.

    Mike,

    Hyperions didn't shut my argument down, but rather confirmed it. I can't believe you didn't see that.

  • Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:29 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    believer, once again, PLEASE use periods in between thoughts (we call those sentences sometimes!)

    Prophet, please tell me exactly where Jesus spoke to gay marriage. I'd love to know!

    Hyperion, thanks for shutting Prophet's argument down, I appreciate it!

  • Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:03 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Jesus never said anything about drugs, pornography, polygamy, or drunkeness. So they must be okay too.

  • Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:04 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "Christ never said a THING about gay marriage, good or bad, so I take that to mean its not off the books."

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    That's your truth. Not the Bible's.

  • Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:08 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    mike85, based on the simple fact that He ordains no other form of marriage but one man and one woman He does not need to declare that is the only form of marriage that He ordained and especially since polygamy was being practiced which He did not ordain and there were according to some posters same-sex partnerships going on as well when God's Word was written.

  • Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:58 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Believer, he NEVER said "this is my design, there shall be no other!" You are adding to the Bible, and I'm not taking it.

    Brit, I know I'm going to heaven, I trust in Christ, so I am a Christian. :)

  • Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:24 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    mike85, but God did indeed give His original and only design for marriage in the Bible in both the Old and New Testament and same-sex marriage violates His design regardless of whether or not it is mentioned in the Bible.

  • Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:15 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "And I am not saying that you are not a Christian since only God and you can make that call with any certainty"

    No offence believer, but that's not doing him any favors.
    He needs to know he is lost.

    We can easily know, by their words and actions.

    If a person doesn't know if they will be in heaven when they die, they have not trusted Christ, so cannot be a Christian.

  • Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:55 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Hman, any time :)

    Believer, your double edged sword argument is just ignorant. God didn't endorse the internet or flying in planes, yet you still take part in both of those. Christ never said a THING about gay marriage, good or bad, so I take that to mean its not off the books.

  • Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:06 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    hman, and that meanness on my part would be?

  • Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:07 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Flagged as inappropriate. show Believer, Hyperion, Jester, Brit, TakingGod'sNameInVainNissi, your meanness reveals what you worship. Mike, thanks for speaking the truth. hide

  • Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:09 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    mike85, the reality is that God's Word teaches that God ordained only one form of marriage that of one man and one woman, that being the case how can I support something that God does not endorse. And based on that even if same-sex marriage becomes the law of the land they will not be seen as marriage by God because they violate His original and only design for marriage. So in essence if you and your partner got married, in the sight of God you would still be having sexual intimacy outside of marriage because in the sight of God you would still not be married.

  • Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:58 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Wow Hyperion, am I a godless queer, a spineless liberal democrat, or a terrorist? I do not believe what I want to believe, I believe what the Bible very plainly says. Its clear you think your beliefs are the one and only, but that kind of hubris rarely wins out in the end. In fact, your extremist beliefs are more similar to that of a terrorist than mine. I'm not going anywhere so long as people like you continue to slander the entire gay community with your hateful interpretation of God's Word. You use it like a weapon, when it should be used as a tool for peace. It is not for you to judge where I am going where I die, and I would never dream of doing so for you (why? Because I read my Bible and know better not to!)

  • Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:09 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Prophet, you argue like a child who can't admit their fallibility. Grow up some, please.

  • Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:58 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Okay...that's your truth...not the Bible's. Either way you look at it, your view of homosexuality doesn't line up with the Bible.

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