Updated 09:38 pm.EST, Fri November 20, 2009

World|Sat, Oct. 24 2009 04:47 PM EDT

Church Registration in Vietnam Inches Along

By Compass Direct News|

HO CHI MINH CITY (Compass Direct News) – The Assemblies of God (AoG) in Vietnam on Monday (Oct. 19) received an “operating license,” which the government described as “the first step . . . before becoming officially legal.”

This operating license gives permission for all of the congregations of the Vietnam AoG to “carry on religious activity” anywhere in the country for the next year. During this time the church body must prepare a doctrinal statement, a constitution and bylaws and a four-year working plan to be approved by the government before being allowed to hold an organizing assembly. These steps, AoG leaders hope, would lead to legal recognition.

The operating license is the first one granted since five were granted two years ago. The last of those five churches, the Christian Fellowship Church, was finally allowed to hold its organizing assembly in late September. According to an internal 2008 government Protestant Training Manual obtained by church leaders, this assembly was delayed because authorities observed large discrepancies between the number of followers the group claimed and the actual number, as well as other “instability.”

Vietnam News Service reported on Sept. 29 that the Christian Fellowship Church has “30,000 believers nationwide.”

Should the AoG achieve legal recognition, it would be the ninth among some 70 Protestant groups in Vietnam and the seventh since new religion legislation touted to expedite registration was introduced in 2004.

The AoG quest was typically long, and it is not yet over. Though started in the early 1970s before the communist era, the denomination was deemed dormant by authorities after the communist takeover and restarted in 1989. Strangely, the Vietnamese religion law requires a church organization to have 20 years of stable organization before it can even be considered for legal recognition.

Though the AoG had been trying for years to register, only this year did it fulfill the 20-year requirement in the eyes of the government. Sources said AoG’s resistance to strong pressure by the government to eliminate a middle or district level of administration may also have contributed to the delay.

Ironically, the official government news report credits the Vietnam AoG with 40,000 followers, while denominational General Superintendent Samuel Lam told Compass the number is 25,000. He also said he hoped the advantages of registration would outweigh the disadvantages.

With no more operating licenses being granted, the future of registration is in a kind of limbo. Sources said a lower level of registration in which local authorities are supposed to offer permission for local congregations to carry on religious activities while the more complicated higher levels are worked out has largely failed. Only about 10 percent of the many hundreds of applications have received a favorable reply, they said, leaving most house churches vulnerable to arbitrary harassment or worse.

Leaders of all Protestant groups say that they continue to experience government resistance, as well as social pressure, whenever they preach Christ in new areas. They added that evidence is strong that the government’s aim is to contain Protestant growth.

Hmong Christians who fled the Northwest Mountainous Region for the Central Highlands a decade ago, developing very poor land in places such as Dak Nong, reported to Compass that they were singled out for land confiscation just when their fields became productive. They said ethnic Vietnamese made these land grabs with the complicity of the authorities, sometimes multiple times. Continue »

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  • Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:57 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    VIETNAMESE STUDENT BEATEN BY US POLICE LIKE ANIMAL

    SEE VIDEO

    http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_13631841?nclick_check=1#

    SHAMEFUL AMERICA HUMAN RIGHTS AND DEMOCRACY...

    DO NOT EVER TEACH VIETNAM ABOUT HUMAN RIGHTS AGAIN EVER.. DISGUSTING!

  • Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:22 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    EdwinTran wrote:
    People like Elaine Pearson, Human Rights Watch's Deputy Asian Director earning may be some 50,000 or more USD per annum for herself from the Asian Church collections from country like Philippines, Vietnam to make her living standard to the top range in Asia wealth off, meanwhile she is risking the lives for these poor and innocent people becoming an enemy to their own nation for Vatican. To think of this The Human Rights Group should be banned a TERRRIST GROUP! 10/23/2009 3:46:04 AM Recommend: (1) (0)

  • Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:22 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Regarding the Bac Nha temple in Vietnam

    EdwinTran wrote:
    Has Thay Thich Nhat Hanh asked for the Human Rights Group for helps? YES? NO?... The snswer was no and I have no heard a comment came from Thay Thich Nhat Hanh via any form of article media or internet sources.
    Thich That Hanh has always been on the front line of the chess board game by different non sense political groups. It was started by those so called his followers and students raised their voice to the Human Rights Group, this Human Rights Group has done a fanatic guessed works and assumed the non sense conclusions toward the Vietnamese government Human Right records based on those no basic backgrounds, or a body representing for any important sources. Human Rights Group takes anything from one written word to an email for evidence. Human Rights Group has no office in Vietnam and how can they assumed anything rights. Human Right Group is doing almost like asking people to spy on that country and willing to pay for a ransom for information relevant to anything. Is not this illegal for those caught for spying in their own country? Do you know what you will face if you were caught spying for an American against the US? Read this www.ncix.gov/archives/docs/espionageAgainstUSbyCitizens.pdf
    What Human Rights Group does here is risking the live of those ordinary people for their own purposes. This is againsting the basic humanity!
    Those students of Thay Thanh Hanh have no understand of Buddhism. According to the Buddhist traditions any political activities or statement made must be accepted by the Master orders and can only be carried out by their Master’s wishes, but these his followers and students took their power in to their own hands, which they did not respect Thay That Nhat Hanh the basic principle of a pure student how can they be enlighten. 10/22/2009 4:21:27 AM Recommend: (2) (2)

  • Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:21 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

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    EdwinTran wrote:
    I would definitely like to see the Human Rights Watch Group should make up all the major religions of the world:
    Christian
    Muslins
    Buddhism
    Jews
    Hindu
    Vu do
    Taoism
    At a moment the Human Rights Group and Economics Sanction Plans by the Christian nations are positive correlated. These were reasons why American Vietnamese born with Catholics origin mongering in every ways and trying to freeze the vital development planned by Vietnamese Communist Party for Vietnam. This is dirty thinking!

  • Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:21 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

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    EdwinTran wrote:
    What is the Human Rights Group and who are they? The answer is a Religious Body created by Vatican, or you can call it as the Roman Empire orders.
    Here are the associated organizations:
    German Homeschoolers
    German Pastors
    American Pastors
    High school students forming Bible Clubs on their campus
    Street Preachers
    Missionaries at:
    • The Atlanta Olympics 1996
    • The Salt Lake City Olympics 2002
    • The Athens Olympics 2004
    • The Torino Olympics 2006
    • The World Cup of Soccer in Germany 2006
    • The Super Bowl 2006/2007
    • The World Cricket Championships 2007
    • The World Cup of Rugby 2007
    American Churches with their organizational needs
    Christian Radio Broadcasters
    Pro-Life Protesters
    Pastors in Columbia, South America
    Crusade Outreaches in Argentina
    French Pastors and Churches and Bible Colleges
    British Television and Radio Ministries
    American Christian Ministries
    Christians distributing literature on streets of America
    A variety of Christian ministries
    Cities developing free speech policies
    Local sheriff’s departments in America
    Pastors in Russia
    Missionaries in Russia
    Churches in Russia
    American ministries in Russia
    Missionaries in Greece
    Local ministries in Greece
    Street preachers in Greece
    Romanian Churches
    Romanian Pastors
    Romanian Christian Television Ministries
    It is not the UN organization. I have not seen any Asian representing for this organization. It thinks it doing the right job helping people around the world, but failed to make an impact the American Guantanamo Holiday resort for the Muslims.
    The most recent article by the Telegraph, 21 Oct 2009 quoted ‘Tory plans to scrap Human Rights Act’ and you can read it on
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news
    Is this worth it debating?

  • Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:20 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    If you go to any Western countries in Europe or the US north and ask the local government for a permission to have a Temple build, you will quickly feel if your religion is respected or not! Ask any monk for these countries.

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