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Society|Wed, Nov. 11 2009 04:04 PM EDT

Christians Urged to Boycott Gap Inc. Over 'Christmas' Censor

By Jennifer Riley|Christian Post Reporter

A conservative pro-family group is urging Christians to boycott Gap, Old Navy and Banana Republic from now until December 25 for “censoring” the word Christmas in its ad commercials and promotions.

The American Family Association said that despite “tens of thousands of consumer requests to recognize Christmas” and requests by the organization, San Francisco-based Gap Inc. has refused to use the word.

“Christmas is special because of Jesus,” maintains AFA in its e-mail newsletter. “It’s not just a ‘winter holiday.’ For millions of Americans the giving and receiving of gifts is in honor of the One who gave Himself.

“For the Gap to pretend that isn’t the foundation of the Christmas season is political correctness at best and religious bigotry at worst.”

AFA joins Christian legal group Liberty Counsel in defending the use of the word Christmas for the celebrations that take place at the end of each year.

Earlier this month, Liberty Counsel launched its annual “Friend or Foe Christmas Campaign” that pledges to be a “Friend” to those who recognize Christmas and a “Foe” to those who censor it. The campaign offers free legal assistance to anyone who faces criticism for celebrating Christmas.

“Over the past few years the 'Friend or Foe Christmas Campaign' has successfully put the 'grinches' on the run,” commented Mathew D. Staver, founder and chairman of Liberty Counsel and dean of Liberty University School of Law.

“This year millions of Americans will join us to help save Christmas," he said. "If a government entity censors Christmas in violation of the Constitution, then we will first seek to educate but, if necessary, we will litigate. If retailers choose to profit from Christmas while pretending it does not exist, then we will patronize their competitors."

Liberty Counsel also publishes a “Naughty or Nice” list, which categorizes retailers who either censor (“Naughty”) or recognize (“Nice”) Christmas.

The Christian legal group has handled numerous cases concerning Christmas, including those that involved nativity scenes on public property, school officials who censored religious words from Christmas carols, and companies that renamed Christmas trees “holiday trees.”

The “Naughty & Nice List” can be found on the Liberty Counsel Web site: www.lc.org

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  • Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:38 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Steve wrote: "those dirty two face liberals"

    LOL, for a minute there I was trying to figure out which two of us dirty-faced liberals you were talking about !

  • Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:28 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    Rachael -
    Why does a Boycott Gap over the Christmas Flap article become a gay marriage debate?

    Why does an article about auto license plates become a gay rights argument?

    Why does virtually every thread on CP become a gender identity/sexuality issue conflict?

    Same reason for each question...

    Because Gay Rights is the most conspicuous battle the superstitious bigots are losing and it has become an obsession. Xian theocratic fanatics see their control over society is slowing draining away. They are becoming marginalized by their isolation and refusal to change.

  • Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:38 am Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    25th Dec is a Roman date set in lieu of the feast of goddess diana. It is a fictitious date of the birth of Jesus. True Christians do not revolve their lives around a commercial date to celebrate Jesus. Everyday you breathe and live should be a day to celebrate his birth and ressurection.

  • Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:42 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "MickeyC stated: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:05 pm

    ""#2 - Does anyone even shop at Gap?"

    Lord No, I don't buy that cheap stuff"


    I think they have ceap stuff at GAP.... They just charge a lot for it....

  • Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:50 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Rachel707 and MickeyC,

    The both of you have cracked me up. Man, I needed these laughs.

    Rachel707 stated: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:47 pm

    "#3 - Who cares if they say Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays, I will shop where ever they have the best deal, and if they tell me Happy Holidays, I say "Thank you and Merry Christmas to you!""

    MickeyC stated: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:05 pm

    ""#2 - Does anyone even shop at Gap?"

    Lord No, I don't buy that cheap stuff.

    #3 - Who cares if they say Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays, I will shop where ever they have the best deal, and if they tell me Happy Holidays, I say "Thank you and Merry Christmas to you!"

    Only a few people who need to have something to whine about care. The rest of America couldn't care less."

  • Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:58 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    real mickey, as I said it's apparent you've lost because now you are resorting to lying about the Word of God and in fact lying about God Himself since there is no where in the Bible that states God ordained polygamy as a form of marriage and that He was okay with it! And in fact all one has to do is read the negative consequences associated with every specific case of polygamy spoken to in the Word of God to realize that polygamy was certainly not ordained by God. As for that so-called example you use it has nothing to do with marriage at all, but rather once again shows a negative consequence to the practice of polygamy!

  • Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:05 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 1

    "#1 - This article and thread is about boycotting Gap, why has the same-sex marriage arguement rolled over into here?.."

    Mainly because posters like believer are obsessed with their homosexuality and a desperate need to repress it by condmening it constantly even if it's off topic..

    "#2 - Does anyone even shop at Gap?"

    Lord No, I don't buy that cheap stuff.

    "#3 - Who cares if they say Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays, I will shop where ever they have the best deal, and if they tell me Happy Holidays, I say "Thank you and Merry Christmas to you!"

    Only a few people who need to have something to whine about care. The rest of America couldn't care less.

  • Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:01 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    "real mickey, it's apparent you've totally lost this battle and can do nothing but recite the same nonsense to the fact that God has ordained only one form of marriage which is clearly that of one man and one woman which is His original and only design for marriage. You have provided no other valid scripture that states otherwise and you rely totally on denying and discounting God's truth on this matter as found in His Word. God's Word in Genesis 2:24 clearly states what God's original and only design for marriage is and we read these same words in Matthew 19:4-6, Mark 10:5-9, and Ephesians 5:22-33. Plus, all other teachings in the Bible referring to marriage are based on that design as well. And while the Bible does speak about polygamy we never read anywhere that God ordained it or commanded it nor do we read any positive consequences of it rahter in every specific case of polygamy spoken to in the Bible we do read about the negative if not dire consequences of polygamy!"

    False believer,it's apparent you've totally lost this battle and can do nothing but recite the same nonsense to the fact that God ordained only one form of marriage which is not that of one man and one woman which never was His original and only design for marriage. You have provided no other valid scripture that states otherwise and you rely totally on denying and discounting God's truth on this matter as found in His Word. God's Word in Genesis 2:24 never states what God's original and only design for marriage is and we read these same words in Matthew 19:4-6, Mark 10:5-9, and Ephesians 5:22-33. Plus, all other teachings in the Bible referring to marriage are not based on that design. . And when the Bible does speak about polygamy we read that God Himself gave one man's wives to another rather then release them or condemn polygamy. We know that many major people in the Bible had multiple wives and that God had no problem with it Eventually, you will have to quit raging against God and twisting His words to support your bad choices in life."

  • Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:47 pm Agree: 5   Disagree: 0

    #1 - This article and thread is about boycotting Gap, why has the same-sex marriage arguement rolled over into here?...

    #2 - Does anyone even shop at Gap?

    #3 - Who cares if they say Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays, I will shop where ever they have the best deal, and if they tell me Happy Holidays, I say "Thank you and Merry Christmas to you!"

  • Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:47 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    real mickey, it's apparent you've totally lost this battle and can do nothing but recite the same nonsense to the fact that God has ordained only one form of marriage which is clearly that of one man and one woman which is His original and only design for marriage. You have provided no other valid scripture that states otherwise and you rely totally on denying and discounting God's truth on this matter as found in His Word. God's Word in Genesis 2:24 clearly states what God's original and only design for marriage is and we read these same words in Matthew 19:4-6, Mark 10:5-9, and Ephesians 5:22-33. Plus, all other teachings in the Bible referring to marriage are based on that design as well. And while the Bible does speak about polygamy we never read anywhere that God ordained it or commanded it nor do we read any positive consequences of it rahter in every specific case of polygamy spoken to in the Bible we do read about the negative if not dire consequences of polygamy!

  • Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:06 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    real mickey, considering you choose to ignore God's teaching with regards to marriage and considering you have yet to provide one shred of valid biblical proof that God ordained any other form of marriage but one and considering God's original and only design for marriage is found four times in the written Word of God it is pretty obvious who is lying and who is harming others as a result! You do this by giving practicing homosexuals permission to live in sin and continue to be separated from God if they are not saved and unable to effectively live the Christian life and be used of God if they are saved.

    False believer, considering you choose to twist God's teaching with regards to marriage and considering you have yet to provide one shred of valid biblical proof that God ordained any one form of marriage and considering God never had an original and only design for marriage it is pretty obvious who is lying and who is harming others as a result! You do this by lying to practicing homosexuals about living in sin and continue to try to separated them from the way God made them pretending that if they don't believe your lies they are not saved and unable to effectively live the Christian life.

  • Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:14 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    AFA is making this up, check out the LA Times that ran a fact check on their FALSE claims!!!!

    AFA’s first shot in the war is a misfire, as Dan Neil of the LA Times points out today. In one of the first lines of Gap’s new holiday ad, the actors yell, “Go Christmas!” (as well as “Go Hanukkah! Go Kwanzaa! Go Solstice!”)

    ThinkProgress also checked out the websites of Gap, Banana Republic, and Old Navy and quickly found several items that feature Christmas items including several Christmas books, a pair of boxer shorts that says “Christmas” in several languages and pajama pants that also have “Christmas” written on them.

  • Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:09 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    real mickey, considering you choose to ignore God's teaching with regards to marriage and considering you have yet to provide one shred of valid biblical proof that God ordained any other form of marriage but one and considering God's original and only design for marriage is found four times in the written Word of God it is pretty obvious who is lying and who is harming others as a result! You do this by giving practicing homosexuals permission to live in sin and continue to be separated from God if they are not saved and unable to effectively live the Christian life and be used of God if they are saved.

  • Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:33 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    "real mickey, considering I have not told one lie about the Word of God and you have yet to provide any valid scripture to support most if not all your views and yet you say the Bible says things it doesn't well I guess that would clearly show you are the one who is doing the lying. And as far as harming others, your lies saying that God is okay with the sins of homosexuality may very well be keeping practicing homosexuals who visit these sites by you giving them permission to continue sinning, from seeing their need to repent of their sin and turn to God by putting their complete faith/trust in the person and finished work of Christ alone!"

    False believer, considering you have told numerous lies about the Word of God and you have yet to provide any valid scripture to support most if not all your views and yet you say the Bible says things it doesn't well I guess that would clearly show you are the one who is doing the lying. And as far as harming others, your lies saying that God is against homosexuality may very well be causing practicing homosexuals who visit these sites to enter into therapy that may harm them, and keep them from seeing their lives are fine as they are clearly shows that you have not turned to God by putting your complete faith/trust in the person and finished work of Christ alone!"

  • Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:28 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    "Hey believer...Mickey has to call them lies without proof. That's the way liberalism works."

    Prove it, or else you'll be guilty of lying......

  • Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:27 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    "real mickey, and please share what badgering of mine impresses you the most since unlike you I don't make near the rude and foul comments you make and combined with your many false accusations of others posters you have surpassed us all as king of the badgerers!!"

    False believer, your constant lies about the Bible are badgering enough for most people. You lie about things that could potentially harm others. You are here year after year lying. That's badgering and you've done it for YEARS as anyone whose been on CP can attest to.

  • Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:03 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    Dead right dp, I learnt that from watching Faux News, those dirty two face liberals, I get angry just thinking about them....

    :-p

  • Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:50 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    Hey believer...Mickey has to call them lies without proof. That's the way liberalism works.

  • Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:02 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 2

    real mickey, considering I have not told one lie about the Word of God and you have yet to provide any valid scripture to support most if not all your views and yet you say the Bible says things it doesn't well I guess that would clearly show you are the one who is doing the lying. And as far as harming others, your lies saying that God is okay with the sins of homosexuality may very well be keeping practicing homosexuals who visit these sites by you giving them permission to continue sinning, from seeing their need to repent of their sin and turn to God by putting their complete faith/trust in the person and finished work of Christ alone!

  • Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:20 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    real mickey, and please share what badgering of mine impresses you the most since unlike you I don't make near the rude and foul comments you make and combined with your many false accusations of others posters you have surpassed us all as king of the badgerers!!

  • Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:36 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    "real mickey, well if that's the case you're an excellent understudy and you have far exceeded my expectations of you and in fact you have clearly surpassed your leader in the badgering of others to include even your leader!!"

    False believer, I know you are in awe of me, but I can not hold a candle to the hate filled badgering you do to everyone on these boards who doesn't agree with you.

  • Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:34 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    "You guys do sit around day after day at this site calling for us to be murdered."

    "No We Don't..."

    Sure you do and pretty much everyone can see it.

  • Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:32 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 3

    DP-just got some facts about Disney
    During the 10 year boycott, (1996 to 2006), Disney DOUBLED its yearly income to 34 billion
    Gap, by the way, has a commercial on now that says "Go Chrsitmas!"
    They also sell lots of merchandise with christmas on it-

    There is no anti christian message from Gap-just anotehr cry for attention...

    Gap is actually hoping that, like the boycotts of Disney and Ford by the christians, they strike gold and increase their sales as Ford and Disney have done

    Happy Kwanzaa!!

  • Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:22 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 3

    "You guys do sit around day after day at this site calling for us to be murdered."

    No We Don't...

  • Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:21 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    "As long as there are people here calling for gay people to be murdered"

    Free Speech for the speechless...

  • Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:21 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    "Gay people don't sit around day after day calling for the mass murder of people who hate the Gays."

    Neither Do Christians...

  • Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:53 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    Flagged as inappropriate. show In fact I am going to repost the flagged item becuase there is nothing offensive, rude, etc..in it. "I do not go to websites belonging to beliefs that I don't belong to such as those devoted to homosexuals, atheists, etc. and harass them" So don't, but think maybe about going to such sites should you want to and pleasantly (that's not a hard thing to do is?)chatting with them and the issues that are raised there, not everybody who comes here who is not a Christian, harasses people, though of course some do. You also seem to miss the point itself that Christians here disagree with one another on various matters. The problem with only hanging around with those who agree with ones self is that you end up just having your ears tickled or not having ones own views challenged, that said some persons, including Christians, prefer that . Bw Steve hide

  • Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:52 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    Why did somebody flag my last post, there was nothing offensive etc..in it what so ever. Can you give me a reason please...

    Thank you

    Steve

  • Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:28 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    real mickey, well if that's the case you're an excellent understudy and you have far exceeded my expectations of you and in fact you have clearly surpassed your leader in the badgering of others to include even your leader!!

  • Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:01 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    "real mickey, thank you for allowing me to be your leader!!!"

    Ah I didn't allow it, you simple TOOK the position a long time ago. LOL

  • Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:32 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    real mickey, thank you for allowing me to be your leader!!!

  • Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:30 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    "Imagine real mickey accusing other posters of badgering, I guess it takes one to know one!!"

    And you seem to be their leader, so you would know them all.

  • Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:18 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    Imagine real mickey accusing other posters of badgering, I guess it takes one to know one!!

  • Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:16 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    "I actually took the time to read all of the posts in this forum and honestly that is time that I would love to have back."

    Why invest more time by posting?

    "To all of you fellow Christians that have been arguing here I can only say grow up!"

    Good argument.

  • Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:51 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 3

    "All I want to do is enjoy my beliefs in peace with those that believe the same as me....is that too much to ask?"


    And as a Christian, I too, want to enjoy my beliefs in peace without constantly be badgered by those who falsely claim that this or that is a sin and people should be discriminated against. That is against my religion and when I see such nonsense posted, I refuse to let it pass.

  • Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:45 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 3

    "is that too much to ask?"

    As long as there are people here calling for gay people to be murdered, and for our legal and civil rights to be taken away, yes, that is too much to ask.

    Gay people don't sit around day after day calling for the mass murder of people who hate the Gays.

    You guys do sit around day after day at this site calling for us to be murdered.

  • Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:56 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    Flagged as inappropriate. show "I do not go to websites belonging to beliefs that I don't belong to such as those devoted to homosexuals, atheists, etc. and harass them" So don't, but think maybe about going to such sites should you want to and pleasantly (that's not a hard thing to do is?)chatting with them and the issues that are raised there, not everybody who comes here who is not a Christian, harasses people, though of course some do. You also seem to miss the point itself that Christians here disagree with one another on various matters. The problem with only hanging around with those who agree with ones self is that you end up just having your ears tickled or not having ones own views challenged, that said some persons, including Christians, prefer that . Bw Steve hide

  • Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:33 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    I actually took the time to read all of the posts in this forum and honestly that is time that I would love to have back. To all of you fellow Christians that have been arguing here I can only say grow up! And to all you non-Christians in here I really need to ask you why you are on a Christian website to start with. If you are curious about Christianity then I welcome you, but not at the expense of being forced to hear your heathen opinions and beliefs that contradict the very fabric of ours. I do not go to websites belonging to beliefs that I don't belong to such as those devoted to homosexuals, atheists, etc. and harass them so please return the courtesy. All I want to do is enjoy my beliefs in peace with those that believe the same as me....is that too much to ask?

  • Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:04 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 2

    Another point I would like to make is this, I wish that Christians realize that everyday belongs to Yahshua since He is the creator and without Him none of us would be here. Therefore, when Christians see the bigger picture, they would not allow organizations like Gap to make them upset. If Christians live the life and demonstrate how we are supposed to behave, then it would not matter if Gap says happy holidays, because the life of a christian would be more powerful. It takes more than merry christmas to change a life and attitudes, as a matter of fact, the phrase "merry christmas" cannot do anything for a person. In my opinion, Christians need to worry about important issues and not signs and phrases, man, go feed someone on Christmas, help pass out clothes. If Christians would do what Yahshua stated, they would not have time to realize what Gap is doing.

  • Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:40 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 3

    I am all for christians boycotting places, but I think Christians have to be realistic here. If Christians boycott Gap, then, they should boycott a lot more places, which means, eventually Christians will not be able to survive because they would not be purchasing items. If Gap wants to say happy holidays, it should be able to, because Yahshua was not born on December 25th anyways. However, if Christians really study the truth behind Christmas, they would realize that it originated from a pagan holiday.

  • Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:17 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    Goodness gracious me...How can somebody give the thumbs down over a "fact" about language?

  • Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:26 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    Sorry that should be "hear" regards Bill

  • Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:25 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 2

    Try this out, don't normally cut and paste but this makes for interesting reading...

    " Why Is There an X in Xmas?
    Some Christians complain that the abbreviation Xmas for Christmas is part of a move to secularize the holiday, to take the Christ out of Christmas, but this isn't really justified.

    Answer: It is said that when the Emperor Constantine had his great vision that caused him to convert to Christianity, he saw the Greek letters Chi and Rho intertwined. Chi is written as an 'X' and Rho is written as a 'P', but they are the first two letters of the Greek word Christ 'savior'. 'XP' is sometimes used to stand for Christ. Sometimes X is used alone. This is the case in the Chi (X) abbreviation for Christ in Xmas. Thus, Xmas is not directly a way of secularizing the holiday, but since 'X' is not Chi in English, we read the word as X-mas and see no connection with Christ."

    You can almost Here Bill O Reilly turning in his grave.

  • Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:24 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 2

    Daniel Paul-I work with Disney every day-Eisner left because he wanted to-not forced by ineffectual boycotts
    I take it you're claiming some knowledge privy only to yourself?
    Gay days at Disney still happen every year...they still get domestic partner benefits

    polkadot-the bible doesn't actually mention christmas at all...you were joking right?

  • Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:53 am Agree: 3   Disagree: 2

    u4, you're right in many ways for many people that's all Christmas has become and the true reason for the season has been totally lost!

  • Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:11 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 3

    "There are employees who have been fired because they said "Merry Christmas"."

    That's not the question I ask, DP. You need to read more carefully.

  • Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:38 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 3

    "Who has tried to make you stop saying Merry Christmas?"

    There are employees who have been fired because they said "Merry Christmas". There are companies that have policies prohibiting them from saying "Merry Christmas" and they must say "Happy Holidays".
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,471744,00.html

  • Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:34 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    ":D I only regret that I have but one thumbs up to give for your hilarity"

    Ahhh...something that HM and I can agree on. Steve is SUCH a wag.... :D

  • Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:32 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Steve wrote: "P.s So do I"

    :D I only regret that I have but one thumbs up to give for your hilarity.

  • Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:44 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    "okay according to the Bible christmas is a time to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christs, not to argue about what greeting to use. but by not being allowed to use "Merry Christmas" becouse it might bo offensive to someone is taking away my freedom of religion and freedom of speech"

    Who has tried to make you stop saying Merry Christmas?

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