Updated 12:47 pm.EST, Sun November 22, 2009

Society|Fri, May. 22 2009 02:25 PM EDT

Veterans Appeal to Americans to Protect Mojave Desert Cross

By Lillian Kwon|Christian Post Reporter

WASHINGTON – Veterans groups representing four million former servicemen and women have come out voicing their grave concerns over the ACLU's relentless attempts to tear down the Mojave Desert memorial cross.

  • Mark Seavey
    Mark Seavey of The American Legion expresses concern about the lawsuit filed against the Mojave Desert Veterans Memorial and the threat it poses to thousands of memorials across the country during a press briefing on Thursday, May 21, 2009.
  • Kelly Shackelford
    Kelly Shackelford, chief counsel of Liberty Legal Institute, speaks to the press about the ACLU's attempt to remove the Mojave Desert Veterans Memorial on Thursday, May 21, 2009.
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"On behalf of the 43,000 men and women who are members of the Military Order of the Purple Heart, I'm proud to stand here in defense of veterans memorials or veterans monuments," said Jim Sims, national senior vice commander of the organization, on Thursday.

Five veterans groups along with the nonprofit Liberty Legal Institute have joined in a campaign seeking to garner the support of the American people to help save the Mojave Desert Veterans Memorial and thousands like it.

"The ACLU has continued its fight to secularize every facet of American life by having a memorial which stood in that location since 1934 either removed or torn down," said Mark Seavey, assistant national legislative director for The American Legion, days ahead of Memorial Day.

Erected by World War I veterans to honor the nation's war dead, the seven-foot-tall memorial cross is currently being challenged for removal by the American Civil Liberties Union and Frank Buono, a former National Park Services employee who lives in Oregon. They filed a lawsuit in 2001, claiming the memorial is a religious symbol and violates the Establishment Clause.

The District Court and later the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals sided with the ACLU, ruling that the memorial is unconstitutional. The case will be heard by the U.S. Supreme Court this fall. In the meantime, the cross – which is located in the 1.6 million acre-Mojave National Preserve near the California-Nevada border and accessible when driving on a two-lane winding road – has been covered with a plywood box.

"If the plaintiff is so offended by the possibility of seeing that cross some day in the cemetery, I wonder if the plaintiff when next in Washington, D.C., will be offended when he drives by Arlington National Cemetery and sees headstones of hundreds of thousands of men and women who gave their lives for their country, headstones with a cross or a star of David," Sims posed.

Kelly Shackelford, chief counsel of Liberty Legal Institute, says tens of thousands of memorials across the country are threatened if the Supreme Court upholds the appeals court ruling.

Shackelford and veterans present at Thursday's press briefing made it clear that the Mojave Desert memorial was not erected as a religious symbol or with the intent of conveying a religious message. It, along with thousands of other war memorials, was simply put up to honor those who had spilled their blood and given their lives for their country.

"World War I memorials all over the world are crosses," Shackelford noted. "That was the universal symbol that was used to reflect sacrifice."

Congress in 2002 officially designated the Mojave cross and its surrounding property as a "national memorial" honoring American veterans of World War I. It also passed legislation ordering the National Park Services to transfer the one acre of land upon which the memorial sits to a private party – the Veterans of Foreign Wars in exchange for five acres of donated land.

While the ACLU viewed Congress' actions as a ploy to protect the cross, Shackelford noted that the liberal group has been "completely oblivious" to Congress' real motivation.

"The reason [Congress] was engaged in this flurry of activity is they were shocked that a veterans memorial was going to be torn down," he explained. "There is no evidence of religious motivation. It was a pro-veterans motivation." Continue »

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  • Wed Oct 14, 2009 6:25 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    amaranth » Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:33 am Al, There is NO group that has that much power in the US. If you believe there is, than you are a bigger conspiracy nut than the alien people.
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    In Response: Really? Well now, you should know by now not to question me about a subject when I state facts.

    Here it is, ready, Focus on the Family was behind the National Day of Prayer as currently constituted;
    2. Interferes with non f&e organizations and directs the NDOP under f&e guidelines since they determine the topic each year;
    3. Read their "judeo-christian statement at the bottom of the linked page
    http://www.ndptf.org/about/index.cfm
    4., 5 and 6
    http://atheism.about.com/b/2005/05/06/national-day-of-prayer-too-politicized-too-evangelical.htm
    That link will inform you about what really goes on with this NDOP observance.

    The ADF, Liberty Counsel, American Center For Law and Justice are just the legal arms of the Focus on the Family organization.

    Here is another read the "Controversy" sections and also notice that little disclaimer at the top about neutrality as well.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Day_of_Prayer

    There is a lot more but that will give you a starting point.

    And remember don't ever do a knee jerk reaction posting challenging me again because I wouldn't have posted the comment if I didn't already have the proof to support it. I don't just pull stunts like you do and then just stop or change the subject when the overwhelming evidence is given. BTW as to overwhelming evidence to support your ridiculous positions, you don't have any.

    TFR

  • Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:33 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Al,

    There is NO group that has that much power in the US. If you believe there is, than you are a bigger conspiracy nut than the alien people.

  • Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:40 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    rolln4him » Fri May 22, 2009 5:14 pm ACLU has nothing better to do than to go around defending criminals and de-religiousizing America. These lawyers need a life.
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    In Response: Which of course is nothing like the criminals are your side of the ideological belief system you follow is it? Chuck Colson is one the pops up and LO and behold he writes articles here and run a great ministry from prisoners who are a captive audience.

    Would you consider a group of lawyers who defends a person who violates 1st Amendment Rights of Christians to be included on your list just like those of the ACLU?

    Here are the points of the latter offender:
    1. This group interferes with other Christians from promoting and practicing their faith and following their ideology as laid down in the bible;
    2. This group forces the people in government office to follow only their ideology and to practice only their beliefs;
    3. If anyone challenges them then that person is barraged with attacks, harassed out of office and their reputations are destroyed;
    4. This group is against any Christian organization that doesn't follow their guideline;
    5. This group is so powerful it can personally dictate to the members of Congress and even the President of the US and forced G.W.Bush to follow their dictates.

    A law firm regularly defends them and even sues people who they either don't like and/or fails to abide by their demands.

    How does that make you feel? Do you think this group and their lawyers should continue to get away with these abuses?

    TFR

  • Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:37 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    Well, After Christ Left Us (ACLU), things took a turn for the worse. Having witnessed the ACLU push the notions that formed so many men and women's attitudes over the decades, the rest of us have possibly SINNED by remaining silent for too long. We Veterans are no cowards and the CROSS will ever be a reminder of the ULTIMATE SACRIFICE.

    Greater Love has no man/woman than to lay down their life for a friend - This is not only what Jesus would do...it is what HE DID! So, ACLU body, take a long look at the cross which you want to remove and imagine a world (a Nation) where no hope can be found any place we try to look. For most, the cross symbolizes love, endurance, a bright hope for the future and so much more. May you See what we See and Hear what we Hear....and Know what the rest of us Know. Then, we can embrace the afore resisted truths which is embodied in the cross: After Christ Left Us....THE CROSS STILL REMAINS!

    Glory To GOD!

  • Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:40 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Please tell the aclu to stop this fight. Please don't be rude. That won't help our cause.
    http://www.aclu.org/contact/general/index.html

  • Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:54 am Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    All of you are right. The ACLU is ridiculous. I can't believe there are actually people that still think they merely stand up for civil liberties. They are proposing a major insult to veterans because of their ignorance and drive to remove all religion from every aspect of our lives.

  • Tue May 26, 2009 8:02 am Agree: 8   Disagree: 6

    Let's be honest. The true intent of the ACLU is to eventually go after Arlington and every other cemetery BUT the ACLU is slick and smart enough to know going after Arlington would be a losing proposition, so it circles the herd, picking off the "victims" it thinks it can easily handle, with the intent to eventually create such a file of "victories" it can change the judicial landscape with precedents. Although originally instituted to protect civil rights and liberties, the ACLU is a classic example of liberalism/progressivism gone wrong. It not longer exists simply to protect civil rights/liberties; it exists to follow a political agenda of its own. It's time to disband the ACLU and start over. The Mojave cross and the San Diego statue are perfect examples of why the ACLU needs to go.

  • Tue May 26, 2009 12:08 am Agree: 6   Disagree: 1

    ACLU is an arm of the Demoncratic Party. So what's new?

  • Sat May 23, 2009 10:56 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 3

    If the ACLU had any priciples, they would immediately point their pitchfork straight at Arlington National Cemetery. I'm sure the public would be receptive to the idea of removing those crosses from public property.

  • Fri May 22, 2009 7:44 pm Agree: 16   Disagree: 5

    Apparently the anti-Christ liberties union doesn't understand that it's not about what the cross means to us. It's about what it means to the soldiers it's in place for.

    Just another example of the self-centered nature of the ACLU.

  • Fri May 22, 2009 5:14 pm Agree: 21   Disagree: 13

    ACLU has nothing better to do than to go around defending criminals and de-religiousizing America. These lawyers need a life.

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