Updated 12:47 pm.EST, Sun November 22, 2009

Society|Thu, Jun. 04 2009 05:53 PM EDT

San Diego County Formally Apologizes to Local Pastor

By Nathan Black|Christian Post Reporter

A San Diego pastor received a formal apology from the county after he was cited for holding a home Bible study without a permit.

County Chief Administrative Officer Walt Ekard sent a letter, dated Wednesday, to Pastor David Jones rescinding the citation and stating that a permit is not required to hold Bible studies at home.

“Christians should not be punished simply for holding a Bible study in their home, so we are very encouraged by the county’s response and their commitment to immediate corrective action,” said Dean Broyles, president of the Western Center for Law & Policy and Jones' attorney.

“We are confident that, as a result of the county’s statements, Bible studies and prayer meetings held in homes throughout San Diego County will be free from government regulation, as is guaranteed by the First Amendment,” he added.

In April, a code enforcement officer issued Jones a citation, ordering him to stop hosting the weekly Bible study – which the officer considered a "religious assembly" – or face fines upwards of $1,000. Jones was told that he needed to obtain a major use permit in order to continue the religious gathering.

When the news was revealed across several major media outlets, the San Diego County was flooded with complaints and accused of attempting to "muzzle religious expression."

Last week, Ekard expressed regret over the situation and stressed that religious intolerance is not and never will be allowed in San Diego County government. He further underscored his own commitment to the freedom of religious expression and said the Bible studies in Jones' home may continue while he reviews the matter.

Jones, however, wanted something more concrete than a public statement.

"We don't have anything in writing. We want something very clearly that states people can pray in homes and have friends over and read Bible together and study a bit," Jones, pastor of South Bay Community Church, told the local 10News, which first reported the incident.

According to 10News, Jones is satisfied with Wednesday's letter.

While many saw the incident as an issue of religious expression, the county said this was a land issue. The county had received complaints from a neighbor about traffic and parking issues resulting from the weekly Bible studies.

Hoping to improve the policies and procedures the county uses to deal with such complaints, Ekard said the county will conduct a thorough review of its assembly ordinances and code enforcement officer training.

Welcoming the county's efforts, Broyles stated, “We look forward to working with the county to ensure that the clarification of its ordinances and training of its personnel are implemented promptly and efficiently so that all citizens of San Diego can be assured that their constitutional rights are protected, whether they’re holding Bible studies or hosting Boy Scout meetings."

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  • Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:57 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    HEY! If this man's bible studies are so well attended, one might think of joining that study!!!!!

    Another note: the people of God are the "church" not the buildings. Those are meeting places.

    I loved the fact that people are discussing these kinds of things! GOD is being HEARD!!!! Hey, my FATHER owns the cattle on a thousand hills, and HE is building me a mansion and is coming for me SOON! Love in Christ Jesus!

  • Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:16 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Uke,

    One can say a Church gathering for teaching, preaching, etc might be limited to gatherings with elders but since the Church is the people in the NT Koine and not the building, any gathering of believers is a the Church. What you are describing is a local body of believers as a total unit and if the Church was limited to that then I would agree with you brother. But, the Church is not limited to a whole local body gathered under the elders for teaching and preaching.

    Grace and Peace,
    Jim

  • Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:13 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    " just Christians meeting together is not the 'church': it must be biblically organized as well. "

    The body of Christ is organized. Each person has gifts and different levels of maturity in using them. What groups of Christians come together those gifts are in play. The body of Christ is self organized by the gifting that God has given each believer.

    No matter what 'church' I go to I still have the same gifts for use in that part of the body. The organization where you have 'leadership' and such is simply man's way of trying to understand the body of Christ. The very concept that Christ can control the body through the Holy Spirit is simply difficult for those who need the level and structure to which they are acustom from day to day life.

    An example would be the family owned business. The parents run the business. The children don't need a structure of command but rather a structure of responsibility. Dad is in charge, mom works directly with us and everyone knows it. With the body of Christ, Jesus is in charge, the Spirit works directly with us...the problem is that everyone doesn't know this or know how to listen.

    People want to rewrite what is clear in the Bible to do whatever they want. In short, the structure of most church's isn't to deal with the Godly but rather the unGodly behavior.

  • Sun Jun 07, 2009 12:42 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 3

    Old Student:
    Well, yes and no: the church is, indeed, Christ as head, and the believers are the body, the church, but as the church, it is an organized body, with leadership, (elders/pastors) in place, to whom are given authority by the Lord, who will give an account of what the church does. Paul organized churches, and ordained elders in those churces.
    So, no, just Christians meeting together is not the 'church': it must be biblically organized as well. This being said, Bible studies are great and important, especially when done under the authority of the local church.

  • Sat Jun 06, 2009 1:57 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    oldstudent,

    Amen . . . well said!

  • Sat Jun 06, 2009 1:56 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Lots of people have small group Bible studies in their homes. This has been going on for centuries.

  • Sat Jun 06, 2009 12:02 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "I was raised Southern Baptist (as a Preacher's Kid) "


    ooooo... owwwww... eeeeee.... iiiiii....

    Preacher's kid, huh? My dad was a Dean of a Bible College, professor, ordained minister and a short term missionary. I feel your pain! Ever get roasted under the microscope? Fortunately, my Dad had a concept that we were entitled to a normal life! How...different, eh? :D

  • Sat Jun 06, 2009 12:42 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Believer, Daniel Paul and Oldstudent - - thanks for your responses and I now understand your points.

    I was raised Southern Baptist (as a Preacher's Kid) but that was an awfully long time ago. I remember prayer groups at our house (parsonage) but I was never comfortable with them as a young adult.

    Nowadays, after way too many graduate courses in theology, I just prefer my own connection with God in a large Christian Science church - - as long as the pipe organ is in tune.

  • Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:45 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    "why would he choose NOT to have these Bible studies at his church? "

    Well, here's the problem with our church and why we have "small groups" in peoples homes. We have 6500 people on an average Sunday. Let's say that only 2000 of them were involved in a small group of about 20 people. That's 100 groups. Do you know how much of a problem that would be to schedule all those groups in the building!!! Our building isn't big enough for that and all the ministry/recovory groups. It would also require the use of childcare 7 days a week. It just isn't practical.

    Issue two...if this guy is a house church then there is no church building to meet in yet. 20 people just can't go out, build and support a church building as a rule. It's the same thing as people who start a business in the basement or garage. It has to grow before it can move into it's own space.

  • Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:24 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    The Church is not limited to a building somewhere else, the Church is the people that gather together and the Church started in the homes. There is no need to "go to church" or "go to the church" when believers are the church.

    Grace and Peace,
    Jim

  • Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:45 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    chicago, small group Bible studies are very popular in many evangelical churches and one thing that makes them popular is that they are conducted in a relaxed laid-back setting, so they meet in private homes as opposed to the local church, plus their are some who will come to a private home and not a church. And once again if parking was genuinely the problem, then ticket the cars!

  • Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:22 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I would be upset if any neighbor of mine had so many guests that it caused parking problems around my house.

    I'm not saying that this pastor did that - - after all, we don't know all the facts.

    Here's my question: If this man is a pastor, why would he choose NOT to have these Bible studies at his church? More people could attend and there would never be a parking issue.

  • Fri Jun 05, 2009 2:20 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 3

    I have only lived 46 yrs. but have come to the realization that satan does indeed roam to and fro seeking whom he might devour. California has been pushing God out since the pot heads and liberals (same thing)took over there.Do a little research on the radical professors in our colleges today and you will find the same disregard for God among the most 'illete'
    persons who have been taught by them. They sit within the democratic party and leadership

  • Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:50 am Agree: 7   Disagree: 2

    While I am happy that this time common sense and the Constitution prevailed, I know that according to the Word of God, stuff like this is merely just the beginning of sorrows. This is the first volley into marginalizing Christians from government entities. I wouldn't be surprised if something like this happens or has already happened elsewhere in the United States.

    People we need to wake up and realize that our Savior Jesus Christ is coming soon when stuff like this is happening.

  • Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:17 am Agree: 5   Disagree: 2

    I wonder why the neighbor who complained did not take the issue to Pastor Jones in the first place. Why do some people seek first to involve the government to deal with something that should be handled between the neighbors? I have had issues with neighbors before and when I went to them in a friendly manner and explained it to them, they were more than happy to cooperate.

  • Fri Jun 05, 2009 4:42 am Agree: 4   Disagree: 2

    "While many saw the incident as an issue of religious expression, the county said this was a land issue. The county had received complaints from a neighbor about traffic and parking issues resulting from the weekly Bible studies"

    I suppose the County never imagined the publicity this would bring to them. And, this will probably mean more traffic on this little street because of the attention.

    It's not known if there were any discussions with the Pastor prior to the legal actions being taken. The articles I have read do not mention this.

    Only one lone neighbor who complains alot.

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