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Americans Tired of Typical Church, Report Shows

By Audrey Barrick|Christian Post Reporter

Researcher George Barna says a spiritual makeover is taking place as Americans approach religion and church in less traditional ways.

Half of Americans surveyed in the latest Barna Group report say a growing number of people they know "are tired of the usual type of church experience."

Two out of three adults (64 percent) also say they are "completely open to carrying out and pursuing your faith in an environment or structure that differs from that of a typical church," according to the survey of 1,004 adults. Women were more likely to agree than men.

There's a pervading sense that people are turning away from traditional religious practices and looking for other ways to experience God. Three out of four adults say "God is motivating people to stay connected with Him, but in different ways and through different types of experiences than in the past."

Protestants and Catholics are just as likely to agree.

"People are suggesting that they want more of God and less of the stuff that gets between them and their relationship with God," states the Barna report.

The report further pointed out that most Americans (71 percent) are choosing to develop religious beliefs on their own rather than accept a set of beliefs taught at a particular church.

The Barna Group attributes that statistic to growing distrust toward churches and organized Christianity, the heightened independence of Americans, and the profound access to information.

Data from the Barna report is based on a survey conducted in August 2008.

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  • Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:31 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Chas, believe me, I am not a "Catholic-basher." In an unbelieving world, we Christians can't afford to be quibbling. But your claims to exclusivity are simply not held up by a group the the RCC often appeals to: the Church Fathers, specifically the Ante-Nicean Fathers. Cyprian dressed down the Bishop of Rome kindly, but often. Hippolytes called two Bishops of Rome heretics. Tertullian insisted several times that JC's reference to His Body and Blood at that last Passover meal was a figure of speech. And most significantly, although these early Christians referred endlessly to the authority of the Bible, sometimes dozens of times per page, I have yet to find a single instance of backing their statements up with teachings of Pope of Church. Brother, I am glad that you have found a spiritual home. But it's only a room in a much larger mansion.

  • Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:21 am Agree: 5   Disagree: 2

    What is the "typical" church experience? Arrive either right on time or late, so you can "sneak" in without any real fellowship with other believers or leaders, find an isolated seat so that no one sits "too close". Sing some sweet, contemporary popsy songs that make Christ sound like a fairy tale sugar-daddy, conveniently take a restroom break while the offering is taken, and sit through wishy-washy, watered down, irrelevant, unoffensive, ineffective "sermons", trying not to snore out loud, then taking the first exit at the end of it all, further avoiding any real contact with THE church. Who wants to invite "sinners" to this? Why would they want to come?? Emptiness, futility, likewarmness, and darkness consume the inwardly-focused "religious" souls. No wonder people are growing tired of it, and Thank God! Maybe now enough of His people will repent, turn from their sins, and return to their First Love, and pray for His fire to burn in them like never before! If not, why even go to "church"?

  • Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:00 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Is bickering, murmuring and, complaining Christ like church. No that carnality. The only way to please the Father is in the Spirit.

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:44 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    John 4:23-24
    23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers. 24 "God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."
    --------------------------------------------------------- True Worship is characterized by two things.

    1) It is in spirit or from the heart, in other words it is sincere.

    2) It is in truth, that is it is according to the dictates of the Word of God, which is the TRUTH (Jn. 17:17).

    Since God is a spirit, since He is both invisible and immaterial, He requires worship of a similar nature. In other words He requires "spiritual worship" and NOT material worship.

    â

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:52 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    rhi, there is no right or wrong to worship style as long as the focus is on worshipping the one true God and not focused on self-gratification and while I have no real problem with people worshipping in churches and styles they are comfortable in, I do have a problem with those who would trade God's truth and the faithful preaching of the Word of God for the enjoyment of the worship style. Plus, I would also draw the line with regards to worship style to not allowing practices that willfully violate, contradict, and/or supersede God's Word.

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:09 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    believer - once again you have been able to dodge the meaning of my words. If the church is just about worshipping God, whose way is right? American certainly don't worship in the fashion of the early church(mostly meeting in homes or in hiding). Does it matter. I suspect you attend a church whose worship service is comfortable for you. Some people like liturgy and some great music. Some meditate, some pray in tongues, some dance with snakes. If you cannot define what form is mandated, then you must face that people design or find worship services that suit them.

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:31 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    throughitall,

    So it was figurative.

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:03 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    cheisa, so then you believe all the Parables that Jesus spoke are to be taken literally and do you hate your mother and father as the Gospels instruct us to do? i hope not and Christ never intended for any of us to hate our parents, but if you insist that everything spoken in the Gospels are to be taken literally then you best start hating your parents and a whole lot of other people in your life. Plus, do you believe you are literally a branch on a vine and Christ is literally a vine?

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:06 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    And yet, the very ones who hail Peter as the founder of the Church, fail to heed his teachings. Ironic.

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:03 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Peter died of old age.

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:59 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    "I'm sorry, but the Gospels are the part of the Bible to be taken literally."

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`

    So Jesus did rebuild the physical temple in three days. When? Or is that something that will happen in the future?

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:40 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    I see where some people are confusing Christ being the rock and Peter being the rock. Clearly, they are not the same, nor are they meant to be.

    But, Christ used Petros for a reason, to summon the authority associated with the word. Jesus was not calling Peter a replacement, he was changing his name - - as is done often in Scripture to denote authority or special purpose - to emphasize that He was entrusting to Peter the Keys to the Kingdom and to loose or bind on earth, which in turn would be loose or bound in Heaven.

    In context, it's plain what Jesus means in Matthew. It is the attempt to make it say something different that requires an imaginative interpretation.

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:34 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    I'm sorry, but the Gospels are the part of the Bible to be taken literally. Any reading of Matthew plainly shows that Peter was chosen by Christ. He clearly addresses him, names him Peter and says upon you I will build my church. Yes, the other Apostles were pillars of faith, as well, but Peter was separated from the rest of the flock by Jesus.

    Paul was, perhaps the most essential pillar and is freely recognized as a co-founder of the church of Rome. His likeness stands in St Peter's Square alongside Peter. He was imprisoned in Rome in the Mammartine prison , like Peter and was crucified there as well, again, like Peter. That Christ chose Peter is no slight to Paul, nor does it minimize his impact on the Church. But Peter was the first Apostle chosen and by Jesus and he was chosen again in Matthew to hold the Keys to the Kingdom and administer the church on earth.

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:25 pm Agree: 8   Disagree: 0

    We live in a Burger King world and unfortunately "Christians" have embraced this viewpoint of church. They want to have church "their way". No attendance is required, you don't have to serve in any of the churches ministries, praying and reading your bible aren't needed, and you can just forget about tithing all together. That is why 85% of the people living in this country believe that they are Christians. But this title is in name only, because their deeds are little different than those who have no religious beliefs whatsoever. The bible warns of apostacy in the end times. I believe those times are upon us. The seeker friendly church is on the rise to respond to those wanting a different worship experience. You walk into those buildings and Jesus is presented in a gospel light format. The problem of sin is never presented. So people leave building with fuzzy bunny Jesus or ATM Jesus instead of stretched or challenged to change the way they are living. Everyone leaves feeling like Jesus is a bar buddy and the drinks are on him. Left to ride blissfully off into the sunset to continue the sins they have perfected. But the important part about God being holy and perfect and a hater of our sin is never talked about. The $64,000 question is, "are they really saved if they never acknowledge their sin?" Those of us who continue to attend those boring, old regular church meetings know the answer.

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:07 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    The article was too short to assess. Tell me about the "typical" church. Is the Gospel of Christ proclaimed there? If so, it's not so much the message of the church as it is the heart of America. Too much meterialism. Too much worldliness. Too many distractions.
    If the "typical" church had an opportunity to explain why it is so "typical," what would it do about it? Cave in and follow some trendy theology, do the popular?
    Then we'll have to have a survey on what makes a church popular. Let's stick with loyalty to Christ an His Gospel.

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 4:06 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    It's obvious from context which Scriptures are to be taken literally, just as things said today are understood properly in context.

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 3:00 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower. --Ps 18:2

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:49 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    cheisa, there are many passages of scripture that are not meant to be taken literally and just because we are not meant to take them literally has no impact on the inerrancy of the Word of God whatsoever!

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:47 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    There are some things to take literal, and some things to take figuratively.

    Jesus said that He would build up the temple in three days. Was that literal or figuratively? The pharisees at that time took it literal. Much like the pharisees of today take the comment to Peter literal.

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:47 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Christ also trusted Paul, and John, and James was a pillar, etc................

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:38 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    Odd how the Bible is inerrant and even read literally until it comes to Matthew. Then all bets are off and any twist that denies Peter his chosen role will clearly do, no matter how silly the argument. Peter is clearly the rock to whom Christ referred in Matthew. Only a corrupted reading of the language meant to confuse readers and obfuscate the truth could cause anyone to reach a different conclusion.

    An, by the way, no one is looking to replace Christ as the cornerstone of faith, but if Christ trusted Peter to head His church on earth, that's good enough for me. Christ had ascended to heaven and it's perfectly sensible that He would leave someone to lead His earthly church.

    And forget the silly big rock little stone argument. Greek scholarsâ

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:31 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    Strange how people will talk about the unerrancy of the Bible and even chose a literal interpretation until it comes to Matthew's verses about Peter. Without a total distortion of the language, Chrsit was clearly talking to Peter and was Peter whom He called the Rock.

    And forget the small stone, large rock nonsense. Greek scholarsâ

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:26 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Borntwice,

    The thing about the Catholics, is that they believe that Peter founded the "Church". But yet they don't adhere to his teachings. Funny how that is, eh?

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:25 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Borntwice,

    "Some rock. The Rock was Peter's confession "Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God."


    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Amen.

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:24 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    I Corinthians 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

    Ephesians 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:19 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    chas, being a former catholic who was an altar boy I can tell you the catholic church has catered to people who wanted change. It used to be if you wanted to take communion you had to fast from food from midnight on regardless of when you were going to receive it, then it went to three hours prior for food and one for liquids. It use to be you had to eat fish every Friday and now it is only required during Lent. It used to be women had to wear hats or scarves on their heads to the point of bobby-pinning a kleenex on their head if nothing else was available. It used to be the Mass was entirely in laten and now little if any is in latin in most churches. So please don't say the roman catholic church like other churches doesn't change with the culture. Plus, I could share several other changes that have occured in the roman catholic church.

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:06 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Some rock. The Rock was Peter's confession "Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God."

  • Chas »
    Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:03 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 3

    Borntwice,

    Jesus is my foundation too! And Jesus gave His authority to the Apostles and I will follow their instruction because of their divine authority. Jesus made Simon His Rock, so if you are outside communion of Shimon Kepha or Simon Peter who is the Bishop of Rome, and who today is Pope Benedict then you are not on solid ground. Wherever you go to church it is like a man who build his house on sand.

    Come home to full communion with Christ Holy Catholic Church, where you will be like a man who builds his house on solid rock. Because of the divine instition of our church, we will never fail the Lord and He will never leave us.

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:51 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Hey Chas,
    Jesus Christ is my "foundation.

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:42 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Too many "Christians" are trying to follow men, they should be praying and asking the Holy Spirit to guide them in all truth. "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge' Hosea 4:6

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:21 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    ch, all too true I'm afraid!!

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:46 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    May I humbly submit that if one who is a disciple of Jesus goes to church to worship Him and to hear from Him and has his/her mind on Him and is thirsty to learn from the Holy Scriptures, well, that person will be well satisfied in any Bible believing church of any denomination. Unfortunately, many have their minds on what they are going to do next even as they walk through the door of the church, and therefore, are unable to worship.

    Some are no more committed to the Savior than they are to the civic club and when that is the case, true worship does not occur and dissatisfaction and pettiness are constants.

  • Chas »
    Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:10 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    Unfortunately, Protestants and Evangelicals have created such a "Seeker Friendly" platform, that worship is no longer worship. It is all about "YOU". God is no longer worshipped in these services. They are more about motivational speakers who use lines of scripture. After all, got to keep those seats filled. They look at people as clients instead of people of God who need God's salvation.

    Tony Robbins, is a self help guy. If Tony used scripture, he could be a pastor over night. He has music that lifts your spirits and he wants you to get the most out of life.

    The "Emerging Church" like most new evangelical businesses are based on a charismatic preacher, but the new spin is that they purposely try to make the experience nothing like a Normal Church experience.

    Give this group 25 more years and you will clearly see more watering down of worship to the point it will become a a self help program on Sundays.

    I THANK GOD I AM CATHOLIC! We and the Orthodox stand with the Apostolic form of Worship handed to us from God to the Apostles. Newer Christians sects offer nothing but man-made style services that have no biblical or apostolic foundation.

    Sunday Worship is all about you giving Worship and Praise to God!

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:02 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    This is my opion, but from the evidence that I've seen many churches are concerned about the numbers for the tithes and, therefore watering down the gospel not to offend or lose people so they can continue their activities.Also many church hopper's are doing so to find the doctrine that fits them instead of being lead by the Holy Spirit and, placed where God want's them. Only a thought I having! Hum

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:45 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    A quick survey with a few specific questions got us some very good responses(though unpopular with some)..a high percentage of our women especially are tired of sermons that "almost" say something!...the higher percentage were tired of hearing the sermon concerning "be like the birds of the air",and then attending a business meeting to find out how many more thousands we earned on our CDs that quarter...as one woman commented "I have a bank, I was hoping for a church!"....one man commented he's "hoping for day we soon drift from being more like a Roman lecture series on influencing enemies, and more like the NT picture of a breathing,thriving,lively church that ceases to fit a cookie cutter format week after week after week!!...My favoirte comment however was the lady who said "the more she goes to church, the more she likes her government!" Nuff said.

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:16 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    schumacr, I think your assumption is probably very accurate!

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:51 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    believer -

    Although I can't exactly say what those 71% will use to determine their beliefs, my bet is it won't have a thoroughly Biblical foundation or be supported by anything outside themselves. I think Pascal is right when he said, "People almost invariably arrive at their beliefs not on the basis of proof but on the basis of what they find attractive."

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:09 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    rhi, that's exactly why people are tired of church is because some how they have come to believe it is about them as opposed to being about worshipping God alone.

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:35 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    Mikeymike you are right. The human mind is deperately wicked. We can not be in God's will if we use your minds,we must be in the spirit.Most Christians do not realize that your mind will constantly fight against their spirit. Anything that seems rational by the mind is usually corrupt.

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:39 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 3

    Flagged as inappropriate. show To say worship is not about us seems like a strange viewpoint in light of the enormous differences in worship style from old line Pentecostal, Emergent Church, Catholic, Ethiopian Coptic, Eastern Orthodox, high church Episcopalian, snake handlers in West Virginia, Baptists, Church of Christ(san musical instruments), Quaker, to say nothing of the musical styles, views on decoration or lack thereof. Some Episcopalian were ready to go to war over changing their prayer book. Some Catholics think Latin is the only real language for the Mass. Some churches play acoustic guitar, some use full electric, a few have orchestras. Some proudly sing off key with a nasal twang. Jesus said he would be there with two or more gathered in his name. Sorry John Flannagan, he did not mention the necessity of the inerrent word. Guess Jesus thought he was enough. hide

  • Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:34 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Todayâ

  • Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:19 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I'd be interested to know what sources those 71% use to determine what their beliefs will be? Plus, by tired of the usual type of church do they mean the worship style or what is being taught or preached, what specifically are they tired of?

  • Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:33 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    instead of forming their own beliefs by what they think is right, try opening a bible and asking the Holy Spirit to open our hearts and seek the truth by His Word, not by what we think. John Flanagan you hit the nail on the head my friend.

  • Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:30 pm Agree: 6   Disagree: 1

    Generalizations like these about Americans turning away from their churches for non-traditional ways of worship does no justice to the truth. Worship is not about us. It is about worshipping Our Lord and Savior in a respectful and humble manner, bringing praise as well as our petitions to Him in prayer. If you attend a church where this is not the case, where the service is man centered, where the Bible is not central and inerrant, where the doctrines are unbiblical, than you are commanded to leave it for a church that is faithful to the Word of God. The Christian walk entails making sure you are in a faithful church.

  • Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:22 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    In reality Barna lets people speak for themselves. There are way too many self appointed prophets speaking for God. Many of these people care only about those who will accept the old "you have to come to our church to be with God," message.

  • Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:20 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    throughitall - every hear that one about killing the messenger?

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