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Education|Tue, Aug. 11 2009 09:26 AM EDT

Study: Homeschoolers Scoring 'Well Above' Public School Peers

By Aaron J. Leichman|Christian Post Reporter

The most comprehensive survey of homeschoolers in America in more than a decade found a large gap between students educated at home and those educated in public institutions.

In the nationwide study conducted by Dr. Brian D. Ray of the National Home Education Research Institute, homeschoolers were found to have scored 34-39 percentile points higher than the norm on standardized achievement tests. The homeschool national average ranged from the 84th percentile for language, math, and social studies to the 89th percentile for reading, reported the Home School Legal Defense Association, which commissioned Ray to conduct the survey in 2007.

According to HSLDA, anecdotal evidence of homeschooling’s success has been backed by multiple research studies. However, it has been at least 10 years since any major nationwide study of homeschooling was done.

During that time, the number of homeschooled children has grown from about 850,000 to approximately 1.5 million, according to the National Center for Education Statistics.

"Homeschooling is a rapidly growing, thriving education movement that is challenging the conventional wisdom about the best way to raise and educate the next generation," commented HSLDA president Michael Smith in his group’s announcement of the study Monday.

For the new study, touted as “the most comprehensive study of homeschool academic achievement ever completed,” Ray surveyed 11,739 homeschooled students from all 50 states, Guam, and Puerto Rico, and drew from 15 independent testing services.

Aside from the academic results, the study found that the achievement gaps common to public schools were not found in the homeschool community.

Homeschooled boys (87th percentile) and girls (88th percentile) scored equally well; the income level of parents did not appreciably affect the results (household income under $35,000: 85th percentile – household income over $70,000: 89th percentile); and while parent education level did have some impact, even children whose parents did not have college degrees scored in the 83rd percentile, which is well above the national average for public school students.

Homeschooled children whose parents both had college degrees scored in the 90th percentile.

"These results validate the dedication of hundreds of thousands of homeschool parents who are giving their children the best education possible," commented Smith.

"Because of the one-on-one instruction homeschoolers receive, we are prepared academically to be productive and contributing members of today's society," he added.

According to the study, 82.4 percent of homeschooling parents identified themselves as Protestant Christian, 12.4 Roman Catholic, 1.1 percent atheist/agnostic, 0.8 percent Mormon, 0.4 percent Jewish, 0.2 percent Eastern Orthodox Christian, and 0.1 percent Muslim.

The vast majority (97.9 percent) of parents in the study was also married and had an average of 3.5 children compared to the general population’s average of 2.0 children.

The title of the study is “Progress Report 2009: Homeschool Academic Achievement and Demographics.”

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  • Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:30 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    HAWK

    << The truth is the Church enjoyed his findings and requested he hold them to a hypothesis until he present substantiating evidence to confirm his Copernican beliefs. >>

    LOL, just like modern day young earthers that claim earth is 6,000 years old and reject science that indicate earth in the billions of year, there will never be enough data/evidence to persuade them..

  • Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:21 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    xiz
    << About evolution, I just meant that they are familiar with the theory taught as a (largely unsubstantiated) theory and not as fact.
    >>

    If its not substantiated, then it is not a scientific theory. In science, a theory is more significant/stronger than individual facts. Theories are based on facts. Perhaps you should review the meaning of scientific theory.

  • Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:20 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Flagged as inappropriate. show HAWK << The truth is the Church enjoyed his findings and requested he hold them to a hypothesis until he present substantiating evidence to confirm his Copernican beliefs. >> LOL, just like modern day young earthers that claim earth is 6,000 years old and reject science that indicate earth in the billions of year, there will never be enough data/evidence to persuade them.. hide

  • Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:07 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    The most loving thing you can do for your family is to pull them out of the public school system and keep them far away from apostate churches.

    TGF

  • Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:18 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Flagged as inappropriate. show HAWK << The truth is the Church enjoyed his findings and requested he hold them to a hypothesis until he present substantiating evidence to confirm his Copernican beliefs.>> LOL, just like modern day young earthers that claim earth is 6,000 years old and reject science that indicate earth in the billions of year, there will never be enough data/evidence to persuade them.. hide

  • Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:18 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Flagged as inappropriate. show xiz << About evolution, I just meant that they are familiar with the theory taught as a (largely unsubstantiated) theory and not as fact.>> If its not substantiated, then it is not a scientific theory. In science, a theory is more significant/stronger than individual facts. Theories are based on facts. Perhaps you should review the meaning of scientific theory. hide

  • Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:21 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 1

    Flagged as inappropriate. show HAWK << The truth is the Church enjoyed his findings and requested he hold them to a hypothesis until he present substantiating evidence to confirm his Copernican beliefs.>> LOL, just like modern day young earthers that claim earth is 6,000 years old and reject science that indicate earth in the billions of year, there will never be enough data/evidence to persuade them.. hide

  • Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:17 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    Flagged as inappropriate. show xiz << About evolution, I just meant that they are familiar with the theory taught as a (largely unsubstantiated) theory and not as fact.>> If its not substantiated, then it is not a scientific theory. In science, a theory is more significant/stronger than individual facts. Theories are based on facts. Perhaps you should review the meaning of scientific theory. hide

  • Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:18 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    johnzon,

    About evolution, I just meant that they are familiar with the theory taught as a (largely unsubstantiated) theory and not as fact.

  • Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:07 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    johnzon,
    The concern Christians have with evolution is the same the Church had with Galileo; lack of evidence.

    You obviously were taught the revised, distorted history of Galileo. The truth is the Church enjoyed his findings and requested he hold them to a hypothesis until he present substantiating evidence to confirm his Copernican beliefs. Galileo failed to produce the evidence and then made a tactical error by violating an agreement he had with the Church that got him into trouble.

    The evolutionists today fail to provide the evidence for neo-Darwinian evolution and what stories they have concocted have been shown to be wanting.

  • Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:38 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "He is a 3.75 student in a tough school; but never cracks a book nor reads any of his texts (don't know how he does it)"

    I had one of those kids. I determined it must have skipped a generation....

  • Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:37 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "Thanks for the advice; usually we ignore it; is this effective from your viewpoint?"

    That would depend on what you mean by ignore. There is a difference between ignore ie "letting them get away with anything" and ignore ie "handling the problem on a low key and in control way".

    Keep in mind many of these links are secular in nature. Still, they have some good info in them.

    For good info on this subject, go to:

    http://www.greatschools.net/LD/ADHD/attention-deficit-other-disorders.gs?content=730

    http://www.greatschools.net/LD.topic?content=1541


    Some other good links are:

    http://www.greatschools.net/parenting/behavior-discipline/dealing-with-frustrating-behavior.gs?content=710

    http://www.greatschools.net/LD/managing/functional-assessment-a-positive-approach-to-misbehavior-at-school.gs?content=904

    http://www.greatschools.net/LD/managing/parent-coaching-ad-hd-and-learning-disabilities.gs?content=826

  • Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:00 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    "You know you are off target and focused on "this world" when your answer revels in procreating more "home schooled" "pro-life", "pro-traditional family" "republicans". Are creating republicans like Governor Sanford, Mark Foley, Larry Craig, or Senator Ensign (just to name a few who professed pro family values as they committed the same sins they bemoaned)."

    How about Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter. Welcome to sinners in all the world...he (she) who is without sin cast the first stone.

  • Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:57 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 3

    " The problem Christian fundamentalists have with evolutionary theory specifically and science..."

    True. I never have seen any problem with science and faith...they go hand in hand; God is the creator of both.
    The problme is the "wrong interpretation or understanding of Scripture (faith) or science (I still remember simple things like a dentist telling me to use a hard toothbrush on my teeth. Now most of my gums are worn away and they said a soft toothbrush should be used) A little late. Of the Shroud of Tourin failed the carbon 14 test now only to find out the piece selected for the test was from a 12th century patch after a fire occured.

  • Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:51 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "I take it you are talking about OD disorder? The two tend to be linked much of the time. Still, if you know how to deal with the ADHD the OD is easy to deal with. OD needs something to fight against to be a problem. If you steer it instead of fight it you will have much better success with the student...."

    Thanks for the advice; usually we ignore it; is this effective from your viewpoint? The student, my son, if off the charts IQ wise, and never seems to have trouble in school as I believe he is also "passive." His doctor said when he was very young he is not a "risk-taker."
    I don't know how she could have made this assessment this young but she has apparently been right. He is a 3.75 student in a tough school; but never cracks a book nor reads any of his texts (don't know how he does it)
    His OD only show up at home with my wife or me? Overall he is a good kid but not "organized."

  • Sat Aug 15, 2009 12:12 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "This is GREAT news. I always thought I wuz nuts. Many are called but few are chosen."

    Called to be nuts???? :p

  • Sat Aug 15, 2009 12:11 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "What's worse is ADHD combined with OD"

    I take it you are talking about OD disorder? The two tend to be linked much of the time. Still, if you know how to deal with the ADHD the OD is easy to deal with. OD needs something to fight against to be a problem. If you steer it instead of fight it you will have much better success with the student....

  • Sat Aug 15, 2009 12:08 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    "Copernican" I had to go look that one up....

    Yep the church at the time did have trouble with it. The problem was that the Bible never says the earth is the center of the universe! Now I do find it interesting that his initial heliocentric model, with the Sun at the center of the universe, would not be accurate either. Still, it was accurate for our solar system.

    As science grows so does knowledge.
    As science or religion is abused so does folly grow.

  • Sat Aug 15, 2009 12:03 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "The Theory of Evolution does not address creation of life,the average person is confused on that point. Evolution describes the changes of life over time, not its origins."

    We AGREE!!! As I have posted before, there is no conflict with changes within a species as far as Genesis is concerned.

    Gen 1:24 "Then God said, "Let the earth bring forth living creatures after their kind: cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth after their kind"; and it was so."

    The problem comes in when people insist (like Huxley) that because of evolution we have no need of God or a god. When evolution becomes to athiesm what creation is to Christianity...then evolution becomes religion.

    The truth is that many Christians do not understand what the Bible really says and many evolutionists do not understand what evolution really says (and visa-versa).

    One question I ask is what kind of designer/creator would design and create creatures without the ability to adapt in some way? The problem comes is with how the word "adapt" is defined.

    I guess what I'm saying is that there are fundamentalist evolutionists too!

  • Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:11 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    Flagged as inappropriate. show DP << When people try to say "evolution has proven that creation is a myth"..... >> The Theory of Evolution does not address creation of life,the average person is confused on that point. Evolution describes the changes of life over time, not its origins. The problem Christian fundamentalists have with evolutionary theory specifically and science in general, is the view that science and evolution contradict religious dogma. Christians had the same problem with the Copernican view of the universe supported by Galileo 400 years ago. hide

  • Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:56 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    What's worse is ADHD combined with OD.

  • Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:55 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Believer: "weekender, that's another cheap shot taken at homeschoolers with regard to the supposed lack of social skills and socializing among homeschooled kids. And yet what I find is just the opposite that homeschooled kids not only socialize well with peers, but with adults as well."

    What? The common ground. I believe Believer on this (is this redundant?)

    For one homeschoolers get the truth; have one-on-one teaching; don't have to face "bullying, rape, teacher threats, etc.) So no surprise.

  • Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:52 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "I largely agree with your comments regarding possible causes of ADHD, however for many cases there is a genetic link associated with ADHD which leaves open the possibility of it as a relic of evolution."

    This is GREAT news. I always thought I wuz nuts. Many are called but few are chosen.

  • Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:48 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    " It changed when we went from horse and buggy to cars."

    Horse and buggy did not become 'wrong' because cars came along. Those things, in and of themselves, were not socially controversial. (Now...how people use them may be.)

    When science is used to replace religion it becomes religion. When Huxley at the Darwinian Centenial Convention said "because of evolution we have no need of God or a god" science became religion. A case and point of this problem would be when my 10th grade "world history" teacher said that the Bible couldn't be trusted because he claimed where Moses crossed was actually the sea of reeds and only 18" deep. I said that other accounts also document that all of Pharaohs army drowned following the Jews. So, which is the bigger miricle...that the God parted the Red Sea at a deep point or that He drowned one of the biggest armies on the planet in 18" of water? ...I got a D in his class....

    When people try to say "evolution has proven that creation is a myth" they have left science (which has PROVEN no such thing) and entered the world of religion.

  • Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:40 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    DP

    Allowed to be science? No one is prohibiting science from being science, that's an illogical idea. Just because some people twist scientific theories into irrational conclusions that have no body of evidence doesn't mean they are changing science because in due time science, with it's own form of karma, will eradicate said thinking. Science is a field of diversity and while some thinking happens to conform to a political agenda, it doesn't remove any validity to the thinking itself.

    I believe theoretical physics is a great field to look at to see what science really is about. Looking back at the age of Newton, Einstein, Planck, etc. one can see how scientific advancement was never halted by one ideology. Newton believed in the existence of absolute space, which was later revised by Einstein to be the existence of absolute spacetime. I'm sure people in the 1800 and 1900's used Newton's findings for spreading their own agenda, but it was only in due time that these agendas were set right by further advancement.

  • Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:06 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Flagged as inappropriate. show DP << Now if we could just get people to leave science as that instead of trying to use it to change society. >> Change society, well sure. It changed when we went from horse and buggy to cars. It changed when we developed polio vaccines and antibiotics, etc... << been abused to become the foundation of a political view and has been used in the public schools as a tool of social engineering.>> ??? How so? not the science I know, nor the scientist I work with. I guess I don't understand where you are coming from. Be specific. hide

  • Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:51 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "Excellent comment and it's so true."

    Yep! I thought the use of the word "ain't" was apropos.... :D

  • Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:47 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    "Science is about understanding the world around us. Science is exciting, fun and interesting."

    Now if we could just get people to leave science as that instead of trying to use it to change society. Science is not a religion, a political view or a tool to social engineering. However, it has been used to attack religion, been abused to become the foundation of a political view and has been used in the public schools as a tool of social engineering.

    Maybe our kids would be more interested in science if it was allowed to be science!

  • Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:29 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Flagged as inappropriate. show DP << One common thing throughout recorded history is that science has always thought it knew more then it actually did.>> Science is about discovery. Science is about understanding the world around us. Science is exciting, fun and interesting. If we knew all there is to know, then science would no longer interesting, life would no longer be interesting. The average scientist realizes how little each of us know, but mankind has developed some wonderous technologies such as cell phones, computers and the internet to name but a few. Just think of the scientific advances man has made in the last 100 years, the growth in science and technology will be exponential in the next 100 years. hide

  • Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:51 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    "Humility is a foundation of wisdom. I'm smart enough to know we ain't all that smart!"

    Excellent comment and it's so true. Merriam Webster defines the usage of the word "ain't" as follows: "Although widely disapproved as nonstandard and more common in the habitual speech of the less educated..."

    TGF

  • Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:03 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    "however for many cases there is a genetic link associated with ADHD which leaves open the possibility of it as a relic of evolution"

    Anything is possible. Still, my take on science in any form is we know just enough to be barely above the ignorant stage! One common thing throughout recorded history is that science has always thought it knew more then it actually did. We look back 500 years and science thought they had the answers...300 years and science thought they had all the answers...100 years and science thought they had all the answers. You don't have to look anywhere past the chemicals we were spraying on our food over the past 100 years to see this to be true.

    Humility is a foundation of wisdom. I'm smart enough to know we ain't all that smart!

  • Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:52 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Flagged as inappropriate. show DP << There are many causes of ADHD.>> I largely agree with your comments regarding possible causes of ADHD, however for many cases there is a genetic link associated with ADHD which leaves open the possibility of it as a relic of evolution. hide

  • Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:28 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    “God is thus the principle of definition, of law, and of all things. He is the premise of all thinking, and the necessary presupposition for every sphere of thought. It is blasphemy therefore to attempt to "prove" God; God is the necessary presupposition of all proof. To ground any sphere of thought, life, or action, or any sphere of being, on anything other than the triune God is thus blasphemy. Education without God as its premise, law which does not presuppose God and rest on His law, a civil order which does not derive all authority from God, or a family whose foundation is not God's word, is blasphemous.”
    -R.J. Rushdoony from The Institutes of Biblical Law

    “...the parents have a duty to provide the child with a godly education. "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge" (Prov. 1:7); "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom" (Prov. 9:10). Wisdom rests on faith, and true knowledge has as its presupposition the sovereign God. There can be no neutrality in education. Education by the state will have statist ends. Education by the church will be geared to promoting the church.”
    -R.J. Rushdoony from The Institutes of Biblical Law

    “...the parents have a duty to provide the child with a godly education. "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge" (Prov. 1:7); "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom" (Prov. 9:10). Wisdom rests on faith, and true knowledge has as its presupposition the sovereign God. There can be no neutrality in education. Education by the state will have statist ends. Education by the church will be geared to promoting the church. The school cannot be subordinate to either church or state.”
    -R.J. Rushdoony from The Institutes of Biblical Law

  • Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:27 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    “Children are to be brought up in something; that something is the Word of God. The arrival of the New Covenant did not make godly education somehow optional. We can consider the question another way. What area of life has God declared to be neutral, in which it is permissible to ignore Him, and His Word, while we instruct our children? The answer is that there is no such neutral zone; it does not exist.” -Douglas Wilson


    “Jesus requires His people to love the Lord their God with all of their minds (Matt. 22:37). This means that the command to be teaching our children all the time must not be interpreted as simply applying to religious instruction, set of by itself in an airtight compartment. If our children are not taught to think like Christians when they study math, history, or science, then they are not obeying the command to love God with all their minds. And if they are not obeying the command, the parents are held responsible.”
    -Douglas Wilson

    “There is little hope of children who are educated wickedly. If the dye have been in the wool, it is hard to get it out of the cloth.”
    -Jeremiah Burroughs

    “Knowledge without practice serves only as a torch to light men to hell.”
    -Thomas Watson

    “Hebrew education was intensely practical. The common opinion held that a man who did not teach his son the law and a trade, the ability lo work, reared him lo be a fool and a thief. It is said that Simeon, the son of the famed Gamaliel, observed: "Not learning but doing is the chief thing."4 Josephus, in his work Against Apion compared the education of the Hebrews with that of the Greeks. Greek education veered from the severely practical to the abstract and theoretical, he pointed out, whereas Biblical law has a healthy relationship between principle and practice,

    Fourth, Biblical education, being family-centered and emphasizing the responsibility of parents and children, was productive of responsible people. A person reared and schooled in the doctrine that he has a responsibility to care for his parents as need arises, provide for his children, and, to the best of his ability, leave an inheritance of moral discipline and example as well as material wealth, is a person highly attuned to responsibility. In such an educational system, the state is not the responsible party but the family is, and the man has a duty to be a competent and provident head of his household, and the wife a skilled helpmeet to her husband. The abandonment of a family-oriented education leads to the destruction of masculinity, and it renders women either fluffy luxuries for men or aggressive competitors to men. Men and women having lost their function gyrate unstably and without a legitimate sense of function.”
    - R.J.Rushdoony in The Institutes of Biblical Law

  • Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:24 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    “The path to knowledge, understanding, and wisdom commences with the fear of the Lord. The foundation for a genuine knowledge of anything is a humble and worshipful acknowledgment of God as the creator and sustaining bedrock of every aspect of each particular fact of the universe (inanimate and animate).”
    -James Nickel from Mathematics: Is God Silent?

    “True motivation, either in teaching or in learning, is generated by worship.”
    -James Nickel from Mathematics: Is God Silent?

    “Paul infallibly declares in Colosians 2:3-8 that “all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge are hid in Christ.” Note that he says all wisdom and knowledge is deposited in the person of Christ - whether it be about the war of 1812, water’s chemical composition, the literature of Shakespeare, or the laws of logic! Every academic pursuit and every thought must be related to Jesus Christ, for Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. (John 14:6) To avoid Christ in your thought at any point, then, is to be misled, untruthful, and spiritually dead. To put aside your Christian commitments when it comes to defending the faith or sending your children to school is willfully to steer away from the only path to wisdom and truth found in Christ. It is not the end or outcome of knowledge to fear the Lord; it is the beginning of knowledge reverence Him (Prov. 1:7-9).”
    - Greg L. Bahnsen

    “...Unless the school fosters the fear of the Lord as the beginning of knowledge and of wisdom, the influence of the home and of the church, even when it is to a high degree exemplary, tends to be negated, and it is common knowledge and experience that in many cases the school has undermined what home and church have sought to establish and develop.” - John Murray

    “...If the Biblical revelation is ultimate for thought, outlook, and practice, we must readily see the implications for education.”
    - John Murray

    “...it is a fact that unless children are brought up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord, they, and the society which they constitute or control, will go to destruction. Consequently, when a state resolves that religious instruction shall be banished from the schools and other literary institutions, it virtually resolves on self-destruction.” - Charles Hodge

  • Thu Aug 13, 2009 5:10 am Agree: 9   Disagree: 2

    When I read some of the comments, I was delighted but I shouldn't have been surprised.

    We are about to begin our third year of homeschooling and we're loving it (Boy 8 starting Gr.4; Girl 6 starting Gr.3).
    We enrolled the first-born in public school in 2005, and watched daily the interactions, the learning (or lack of), the political activism in every room and hallway, and we saw the soon-to-be-programmed "family values" course, beginning in Grade 4. I see in the worst parts of the country, they want to start their dementia earlier.

    We had immediately witnessed a change in our child's behavior (in Kindergarten), and we didn't want 12+ years of this extremely negative influence that should be RATED R.

    We never heard of this homeschooling before, until we started thinking about what our options were. We read a report that there had been a 45% increase the year before in the number of parents pulling their children out of public school. We read how parents without a teaching degree do better at homeschooling than parents with teaching degrees etc...

    In the public schools now run by radical feminists from the top to the bottom, traditional subjects are being pushed aside in favor of left-wing brainwashing courses, on all the freaks favorite topics.
    We read a report recently that close to 90% of children who go thru the public school system leave the churches of their parents by the end of high school.
    Universities are unable to handle entrants who are unable to multiply, unable to write an essay, and don't know anything about their country, but are experts on Abortion rights, Darwin's Facts about Evolution, and the disgusting sexual positions of Satan's closest friends.

    I vividly remember when they told concerned parents that sex-education would be limited to biological information and they would never be handing out the Pill in the schools. Now the teachers drive the children to the nearest Planned Parenthood abortuary, when they're not having sex with them.

    There's so much violence in the Zero Tolerance schools, so much drugs in the Drug-free schools, and so much sexual deviant inculcation in the safe-sex schools today, that we thought:

    "Do we want to send our precious children to this left-wing factory, just because we had a few happy memories during a less-evil era - a time when there was more balance in the teacher ranks, kids said the Lord's Prayer, there was Christmas Plays every year, and teachers represented the parents' values in the daytime?"

    TGF

  • Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:14 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    "i went two publick scool and i turnd owt jist fin."

    So...you went to public school in the south?

  • Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:13 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    "As I alluded to, evolution may have played a role in its prevalence today."

    I would disagree. There are many causes of ADHD.

    "In some cases, though, there is no genetic link to ADHD. Nevertheless, this common behavior disorder is still diagnosed in children whose mothers smoked or drank alcohol during pregnancy. It's also diagnosed in children whose mothers had difficult pregnancies.

    Babies with low birth weight may have an increased risk of ADHD. The same is true for children who have had head injuries, particularly an injury to the frontal lobe. Young children who are exposed to lead or other environmental toxins such as PCBs early in life may also have a higher risk of ADHD."

    http://www.webmd.com/add-adhd/guide/adhd-causes


    One question that has yet to be answered is how the chemicals that have been used over the past 50 years has contributed to the drastic rise in ADHD. How do those chemicals effect a persons genetics?

  • Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:12 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    i went two publick scool and i turnd owt jist fin.

  • Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:07 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "I have a mild form of AD myself, I'd rather not have it as my work requires intense concentration in the area of problem solving, but I have found ways to cope"

    I guess that would depend on your job. My work has always been where I have to spin many plates at the same time. I have had to be able to put a job on hold and pick another one up where I left off on it before it went on hold! I have been more successful then many of my peers who are not ADHD. Still, I can see where many jobs would NOT benefit from ADHD.

  • Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:16 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    Flagged as inappropriate. show izwyck << evolution (though they taught it as a theory)>> Well thats good, evolution is a theory- the Theory of Evolution, just as there is the Theory of Gravitation (Einsteins General Theory of Relativity), Quantum Theory, Plate Tectonic Theory, Germ Theory, Cell Theory, Theory of Special Relativity, Theory of Optics, etc, etc,etc. You see, science is all about theories. So yes, evolution is based on a scientific theory. Theories are what make the internet, cell phones, space travel, MRI's, pharmaceuticals, pace makers, TV, radio, atomic bombs, skyscrapers, clean drinking water, cameras, Kevlar, radiometric dating, particle accelerators, telescopes, spectrometers, etc all possible. hide

  • Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:47 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Flagged as inappropriate. show DP << As someone with ADHD myself I tend to see those without it as having the disability>> I have a mild form of AD myself, I'd rather not have it as my work requires intense concentration in the area of problem solving, but I have found ways to cope. As I alluded to, evolution may have played a role in its prevalence today. When humans were trying to survive in the wilderness thousands of years ago, I can see how having some members of the population with attention deficit that might easily be distracted by threats such as a lion making subtle noises in the bush as it approached say a group of humans who were intently focused on a campfire. The AD person would pick up on the threat and alert the group to the danger. hide

  • Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:06 pm Agree: 7   Disagree: 1

    I attended public school and are home-schooling my four children. Home-schooling is much better and more efficient. My children are tested and graded objectively... they are ahead of their peers that are in public school, plus they are not indoctrinated with evolution (though they taught it as a theory), Planned Parenthood agendas, humanism, and sexual immorality.

  • Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:20 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 1

    "In modern times ADHD is considered a disorder"

    As someone with ADHD myself I tend to see those without it as having the disability!

  • Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:29 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 1

    D626,
    Your conclusion is correct: Focus on those things above and point your children to Christ.

    You may be ignoring that it requires Truth for a child to find and know Christ. You don't find Truth in government schools; you'll only find the world's lies based on the religion of humanism. Nehemiah Institute has demonstrated quite well how government fed students deny God's truths and adhere to secular humanism and marxism. http://www.nehemiahinstitute.com/ take a look at the power point presentation.

    The real issue you bring up is whether or not these dedicated Christian parents are teaching Truth to their children and preventing the indoctrination of the world's lies to those they are responsible for.

  • Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:49 am Agree: 6   Disagree: 1

    Diana626
    I think that your comments are uncalled for!
    God has blessed many of us so that we can home school. I home school so that my son is not indoctrinated with lies and worldly views. I do not look at the unbeliever as the enemy but as an opportunity to share Christ.
    Our enemies are principalities, against powers and rulers of darkness of this age, against spiritual host of wickedness in heavenly places. My son age 11 will and does witness to unbelievers with love and compassion. The unbeliever is opportunity to shine our light and not the enemy.
    God bless you D626 and I pray that God will give you revelation concerning this matter.

  • Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:30 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 5

    Flagged as inappropriate. show DP, In modern times ADHD is considered a disorder, thousands of years ago as man was scratching out an existence on the savannah, what is termed today as ADHD, may have provided an important survival attribute from an evolutionary standpoint. I am glad home schooling is working well for your child. hide

  • Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:19 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 1

    I went to public school every year save one (when we were short term missionaries). When I move to SC in the 10th grade they were pushing evolution hard. It didn't work out well for the teachers as the text books contradicted themselves.

    Students who learn and speak up can do well in public schools. The truth is you have to teach your kids how to live in the world but not be of it.

    So, why do I do public school at home? Simple...my kid is ahead of his pears and ADHD as well. Not a good combination at that age as far as school goes. Plus, as a lay advocate for special needs children, I don't want to put him in the line of fire....

  • Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:59 pm Agree: 7   Disagree: 0

    Thanks believer. While many of my best friends (and even some of my business partners) are unsaved folk who believe differently than I do (I consider none of them to be "the enemy"), my children would be easily deceived by the "wiles of the Devil" during their impressionable years. I would be "grossly deceived" and "grossly ignorant" if I allowed them to be indoctrinated by those who hate Christianity.

  • Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:07 pm Agree: 7   Disagree: 0

    D626, I wholeheartedly agree that we should not see the unsaved as our enemies and at the same time our children are not academically or even spiritually mature enough to take on our true enemy's tactics and theories being taught or promoted in the curriculum found in many of our public schools today.

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