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Christians Urged to Meet Atheists in the Public Square

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Thu, Oct. 11 2007 01:55 PM ET
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"[Christians] are going to meet arguments that cannot be settled simply by 'the Bible says this, the Bible says that' because the other person will promptly reply that they don't accept the authority of the Bible," D'Souza noted.

He suggests Christians become "bilingual" in which they are educated in both the biblical language and a secular language the world can recognize – a language anchored in history and reason and experience.

In his upcoming book release, due out Oct. 16, D'Souza dispels common myths about faith, many of which are argued by atheists.

Myth #1: Atheism is growing and more people are choosing it over church

Pews might be empty in some urban parts of America, but the world is witnessing a huge explosion of Christianity, says D'Souza who notes Christianity as the fastest-growing religion in the world and that the number of unbelievers is actually shrinking. In America, about half of the population goes to church and an overwhelming majority believes in God. But there are also "powerful currents of secularism" in this country that counter that, the author acknowledged.

Myth #2: Religion has caused history's wars, murders, and violence

The number of people killed in religious wars such as the Crusades or the Spanish Inquisition is infinitesimal compared to those killed during modern atheist regimes, the author notes. "We have to keep a sense of proportion," he says.

Dawkins had argued in an earlier debate that atheists never commit atrocities in the name of atheism while religious people do so in the name of their faith.

D'Souza disagrees. "Somebody should send Dawkins a copy of 'The Communist Manifesto' [because] the truth of the matter is that these secular ideologies of the 20th century were explicitly opposed to religion."

"Communism was explicitly atheistic. It committed attacks against the church, imprisoned priests, shut down prayer meetings ... in the name of creating atheist utopia freed from the shackles of traditional religion and traditional morality," said the conservative author.

Myth #3: There is no such thing as a human soul

Atheists use science to argue that there is no soul, as there is no physical evidence of one. "If the atheist universe were true, there would be no free will in it," says D'Souza. The world of science, of atoms and molecules, is one in which there is no free choice because the actions of the atoms and molecules determine the outcome, he argues. Atheists believe the only things that exist are the material things that can be seen under the microscope and smelled and touched to which there is empirical evidence, he adds.

"There are dimensions of reality that cannot be captured in purely material terms. When has science ever located a thought or a feeling or a choice?"

Myth #4: Where is God when bad things happen?

D'Souza turns this question around and asks where is atheism when bad things happen? At the tragic event of the Virginia Tech shooting in April, there were nonstop memorial services and everyone began to speak a very religious language of healing and spirituality, he noted. "Atheism has absolutely nothing to offer us at moments of life that matter the most – birth, marriage, death, suffering."

What's So Great About Christianity is a defense of Christianity, D'Souza explained, "but it's a defense that meets the critics of Christianity by taking them seriously."

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ProfessorX
  • Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:00 am
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DARWINISM and ATHEISM: UNSCIENTIFIC and MYTHICAL

http://www.evolutionfacts.blogspot.com
ProfessorX
  • Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:01 pm
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WE ARE NOW WITNESSING THE EXTINCTION OF ATHEISM.

http://evolutionfacts.blogspot.com
BobC
  • Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:36 pm
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"So the atheist in a way is getting a little more desperate," D'Souza believes.

The atheist is getting a little more disgusted, not desperate. The atheist wonders when will people stop acting like children who have invisible friends. The atheist see religious stupidity everywhere and he wonders when the world will grow up.
Euripedan
  • Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:46 pm
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If we as Christians are to successfully present our case in the public arena, we must first confess our own diversity. We range from Liberal to Conservative, span all ethnicities, and interpret the Bible in a multitude of ways. Some of us are Theistic Evolutionists, like Joan Roughgarden of Stanford University who is a world-renown Evolutionary Biologist and a person of strong, Christian faith. If you interpret every word of the Bible literally, I believe you're going to run into a lot of scientific roadblocks. Though I believe strongly in the divinity of Jesus Christ, I also accept the fact that the universe is billions of years old and that evolution is itself a manifestation of God's glory. I believe that humanity is but one of many sentient races that God has created throughout the universe. The time scales of evolution and the magnanimity of the cosmos do not derail my faith. I was raised in the Fundamentalist tradition in a Christian school before graduating from a public university with a degree in Mathematics and Physics. I am also an author of Civil Rights literature. However, as I read history, I see that the face of Christianity is not always the face of Christ. Many fools have committed atrocities in the name of our faith. But there is another river that flows through history that is far more compelling; and that river flows through the stories of great human beings like Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and the Quakers of the 19th Century willing to risk fortune, life and limb to liberate slaves. You’re not going to reach people by showing God to them in a test tube, or in elaborate mathematical formulations. The language of science does not answer WHY. Rather, it follows a sequence of repeatable events that lead to expected conclusions. An unbeliever will more likely be reached by the love of God expressed through human beings than by a science text. We seem to have forgotten that essential truth when we blast gays with greater venom than we show toward terrorists. God is the God of all people, not just those who look, behave, dress, act and talk just like us. We need to show how our faith has pioneered the great liberation movements of history, either directly or indirectly. To be honest, the face that we present to the world is most often penchant, intractable and exclusive. You don’t reach unbelievers that way.
holito8
  • Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:32 am
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holito8: your analogy fails. Parents are accountable to society for how they raise their children. You believe in a god who is accountable to no one, and you can't recognize the corruption in that.

So parents pass every decision thru the community before they make it? If so tell me why haven't I been asked any question about clothing, schooling, hygine, and etc concerning every child in society. Ooops! My parents made in their own choices on many matter. So you equate God, omiscient to a person limited intellect.
mburkel
  • Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:07 pm
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Here’s a link to an article from the LA Times, titled “10 myths -- and 10 truths -- about atheism”:

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-op-harris24dec24,0,6970228,full.story

From the story:

“Most polls show that about 90% of the general public believes in a personal God; yet 93% of the members of the National Academy of Sciences do not. This suggests that there are few modes of thinking less congenial to religious faith than science is.”

I don’t think you’re going to win any arguments with atheists that are based on science.
holito8
  • Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:28 pm
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Ezekiel 28: 2
.. Thus says the Lord God: ‘Because your heart is lifted up, and you say, I am a god,
I sit in the seat of gods, in the midst of the seas, yet you are a man, and not a god, though you set your heart as the heart of a god (Behold, you are wiser than Daniel! There is no secret that can be hidden from you! With your wisdom and understanding you have gained riches for yourself, and gathered gold and silver into your treasuries; By your great wisdom in trade you have increased your riches, and your hear is lifted up because of your riches….


I never said expanding your knowledge is a bad thing. Do have children? Do you tell them all the decisions you make? Can you understand what God is saying?
Citizen
  • Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:06 pm
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holito8: Hey, you are the one who chooses to artificially limit your horizons by buying Christian dogma. If you refused to believe things which lacked evidence, then you too could expand your knowledge and learning without fear of losing a stagnant and fragile faith. But since you do not, that's no cause to issue threats against those of us who do learn and grow. If everyone took the same attitude you express, we'd all still be sitting in caves eating raw dead animals.
holito8
  • Thu Oct 18, 2007 2:17 pm
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Ultimately you want to master life and death, creation and destruction and be masters over all sounds familiar like survival of the fittest. Stalin, Kublai Kan, Alexander the Great, and etc to name a few had a similar plan. You will say no; we have no alterive motive. But you won’t take responsibility for your actions.

Genesis 3:22
…the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of us, to know good and evil. And now lest he put out his hand take also of the tree of life, and eat and live forever.”

Genesis 11:4
And the people said, “come, let us build ourselves a city, and a tower whose top is in the heavens; let us make a name for ourselves, lest we be scattered abroad over the face of the whole earth.”

Isaiah 14:13-14
For you (Lucifer) have said in your heart:
‘I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;
I will also sit on the mount of the congregation on the farthest sides of the north;
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High.’

You assail that you have a right to know it all. Science will prevail against God. His creation will be like Him a god. You will use His natural world to prove your theories. You will change and become truly great.

Man was expelled from the garden. The people were scattered at Babel. Lucifer and all those who followed his teaching were cast out of heaven.
Thus will be the fate of all who challenge God.
holito8
  • Thu Oct 18, 2007 12:17 pm
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He a man who wrote a book that doesn't make him an authority on nature. He still learning. If he knew everything, he'd be a god. But he not and he is making speculations on what appears to come from "controlled data." He puffing himself up to be a truth teller, but he still doesn't have the complete picture. Thus, you can follow him all you want. A man leading a man... Yet better, a man still learning and telling another his has sure knowledge and wisdom. That's kinda funny... Blind leading the blind and neither knows whats around the corner. Some people would rather be in darkness than seeing in the light stumbling from one theory to the next hoping its the "holy grail."
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