Florida Submits 'Evolution Academic Freedom Act' to Senate
ByChristian Post Reporter
Thu, Apr. 10 2008 05:43 PM ET
The Florida Senate Judiciary Committee voted 7-3 this week to submit the Evolution Academic Freedom Act, which would guarantee the freedom of teachers and students in Florida public schools who challenge theories of Darwinism, for debate in the Senate.
Lawmakers felt prompted for the need of an academic freedom bill after the Florida Board of Education voted for the first time in its history to require the teaching of evolution in schools back in February.
According to lawmakers, teachers who opposed or were critical of Darwinism felt threatened by administrators and were purposely denied class planning time and other privileges.
The new bill, however, would guarantee the freedom of both teachers and students to share their views in the classroom without fears of reprisal.
"There are a variety of ways that people in leadership, other class members and teachers and department heads and principals can intimidate teachers from presenting the full range," said Republican Sen. Ronda Storms, the bill’s sponsor, according to the Palm Beach Post.
Opponents of the bill, however, argued that it was unconstitutional and nothing more than a masked agenda for the promotion of religion in schools.
“This bill is bad for education, it’s bad for our efforts to bring the biotech industry to Florida and it’s bad for the constitution,” said Rebecca Steele, Tampa regional director of the American Civil Liberties Union, according to News Press.
Senate Republican leader Daniel Webster countered criticism of the new bill, pointing out that evolution was a “theory” with “flaws” and that it was important to guarantee basic academic freedom.
"The point is are we or are we not going to have academic freedom? This is going to go a long way in allowing flaws in whatever theory is presented to be pointed out without fear of retribution by someone over you,” he explained, according to News Press.
In addition to Florida, two other states, Missouri and Louisiana, have also submitted Academic freedom legislation.
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w00t- Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:07 pm
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star2- Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:56 pm
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agentorange
Re:No it’s not star, I drew a correlation that perhaps, just maybe, possibly, you were the one flagging him and got him ejected as a result of you have flagged Howard (by your own admission), myself, and others earlier along with calling CP to have certain accounts expunged.
I have never flagged Howard. When he went by the name Dwen, I flagged once a comment he made to Slacker. I admited I flagged him and I apologized to Dwen later. He thanked me for apologizing.
I have flagged you several times, usually after your repeated ungodly attacks against me and my God. I flagged you once for your use of profanity. I get tired of it, you know.
Once CP identifies someone who is abusing the system like first/danny2/danny did on that Sunday in march 08, they went and deleted all his comments he had made on CP. That was their decision, not mine. They did it to him when he went by the name Dwen. Again that was their decision not mine.
If CP just loved me so much and highly regarded my opinion so much, then when I get flagged for saying stuff that is true and/or biblical they would restore my flagged messages. They don't. My stuff is less offensive in my opinion than anything you atheists/agnostics say.
Believe me CP does not love me and highly respect my opinion like you are suggesting. They respectfully listen to what I say, they investigate, and they make their own decisions.
Your defense of your arguments are getting to be a joke.
CP makes their own decision about who gets expunged. I don't make those decisions. Get real. Like I said, I don't own CP nor do I run it.
Re:No it’s not star, I drew a correlation that perhaps, just maybe, possibly, you were the one flagging him and got him ejected as a result of you have flagged Howard (by your own admission), myself, and others earlier along with calling CP to have certain accounts expunged.
I have never flagged Howard. When he went by the name Dwen, I flagged once a comment he made to Slacker. I admited I flagged him and I apologized to Dwen later. He thanked me for apologizing.
I have flagged you several times, usually after your repeated ungodly attacks against me and my God. I flagged you once for your use of profanity. I get tired of it, you know.
Once CP identifies someone who is abusing the system like first/danny2/danny did on that Sunday in march 08, they went and deleted all his comments he had made on CP. That was their decision, not mine. They did it to him when he went by the name Dwen. Again that was their decision not mine.
If CP just loved me so much and highly regarded my opinion so much, then when I get flagged for saying stuff that is true and/or biblical they would restore my flagged messages. They don't. My stuff is less offensive in my opinion than anything you atheists/agnostics say.
Believe me CP does not love me and highly respect my opinion like you are suggesting. They respectfully listen to what I say, they investigate, and they make their own decisions.
Your defense of your arguments are getting to be a joke.
CP makes their own decision about who gets expunged. I don't make those decisions. Get real. Like I said, I don't own CP nor do I run it.
agentorangex- Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:37 pm
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“This is a contradiction agentorange.”
No it’s not star, I drew a correlation that perhaps, just maybe, possibly, you were the one flagging him and got him ejected as a result of you have flagged Howard (by your own admission), myself, and others earlier along with calling CP to have certain accounts expunged.
“You need to get the facts before you make the accusations that you make. Wrong information, lack of information will lead someone to the wrong conclusion. You do that quite often.”
Facts summary: Star flags people? Check. Star in the past admitted to contacting CP to have certain accounts removed? Check. So, where are the missing facts that I need to understand you’re not flagging others and getting them booted?
“Did I flag your first entry? Yes, I did because of the remark you made of my Lord and Savior. I am sick of it.”
Did you flag my entry, now there I a rhetorical question. Well of course, I knew you did. It’s quite apparent. And why did you exactly? CP didn’t find it offensive, so perhaps you over reached just a tad? If you’d noticed I wasn’t offending your god, I was commenting on how I don’t need to call him a zombie or infer to continually saying Christians are magic lovers like Danny was doing and thus I am not acting in a profane manner. I am using his horrid acts to show that I don't need to disrepect you in such a manner, and yet still flagged.
“You do that quite often. Evolution is based on wrong assumptions and a lack of information. Evolution is nothing but a fairy tale full of magic.”
Wrong assumptions, lack of information like? Call it magic star, it doesn’t offend me, but we know the same can’t be said if Danny, or anyone for that matter says it of your beliefs now don’t we.
No it’s not star, I drew a correlation that perhaps, just maybe, possibly, you were the one flagging him and got him ejected as a result of you have flagged Howard (by your own admission), myself, and others earlier along with calling CP to have certain accounts expunged.
“You need to get the facts before you make the accusations that you make. Wrong information, lack of information will lead someone to the wrong conclusion. You do that quite often.”
Facts summary: Star flags people? Check. Star in the past admitted to contacting CP to have certain accounts removed? Check. So, where are the missing facts that I need to understand you’re not flagging others and getting them booted?
“Did I flag your first entry? Yes, I did because of the remark you made of my Lord and Savior. I am sick of it.”
Did you flag my entry, now there I a rhetorical question. Well of course, I knew you did. It’s quite apparent. And why did you exactly? CP didn’t find it offensive, so perhaps you over reached just a tad? If you’d noticed I wasn’t offending your god, I was commenting on how I don’t need to call him a zombie or infer to continually saying Christians are magic lovers like Danny was doing and thus I am not acting in a profane manner. I am using his horrid acts to show that I don't need to disrepect you in such a manner, and yet still flagged.
“You do that quite often. Evolution is based on wrong assumptions and a lack of information. Evolution is nothing but a fairy tale full of magic.”
Wrong assumptions, lack of information like? Call it magic star, it doesn’t offend me, but we know the same can’t be said if Danny, or anyone for that matter says it of your beliefs now don’t we.
GMG- Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:05 pm
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agentorange
>>>>....my past accounts were also targeted, ....<<<<
Lots of people have had to deal with this. One good example of someone's who was, who NEVER uses any type of questionable language, insulting speech, etc. was 'wilderness'. CP has very high standards, which have become even more rigorous recently (in great part thanks to first/danny.....), which is one of the things you have to deal with when you're on a Christian site vs. a non-Christian site. I, for one, think it's worth it.
>>>>....my past accounts were also targeted, ....<<<<
Lots of people have had to deal with this. One good example of someone's who was, who NEVER uses any type of questionable language, insulting speech, etc. was 'wilderness'. CP has very high standards, which have become even more rigorous recently (in great part thanks to first/danny.....), which is one of the things you have to deal with when you're on a Christian site vs. a non-Christian site. I, for one, think it's worth it.
star2- Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:36 pm
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agentorange
agentorange said : "contacting CP and having Howards account banned which she's also done in the past.
Then agentorange said: "I am not accusing you of flagging Howards posts or getting him removed"
This is a contradiction agentorange.
If someone goes nuts and abuses the system, which first/danny2/danny did back in March 08, then CP will remove that person. Even if I didn't complain on that Sunday when he was doing it along with at least three other people who complained via email, CP would have removed him anyway because they would have seen all the comments flagged. They know who flaggs what. What they don't know is 'why'.
You need to get the facts before you make the accusations that you make. Wrong information, lack of information will lead someone to the wrong conclusion. You do that quite often. Evolution is based on wrong assumptions and a lack of information. Evolution is nothing but a fairy tale full of magic.
Agentorange said "‘Magic’ is a profane word now?"
You know what I am talking about. I have had many dialogs with you. You have used profanity.
You are a L I A R to say that you haven't.
agentorange said :I choose not to offend you by saying Christ was a ‘stinking zombie corpse’ "
There was no need for you to even bring this up. Do I find it offensive? You bet I did. Was this a way for you to express your opinion of my Savior and the Savior of all mankind, Jesus Christ by concealing it in an example thinking that you could get away with it? I was offended by you even bringing it up. It is probably how you think anyway, isn't it agentorange?
Did I flag your first entry? Yes, I did because of the remark you made of my Lord and Savior. I am sick of it.
One day God bring you into account for all you have said and done.
I cannot understand why CP even restored your flagged message. But, they make the decisions, not me, even though you claim that I control them in that.
agentorange said : "contacting CP and having Howards account banned which she's also done in the past.
Then agentorange said: "I am not accusing you of flagging Howards posts or getting him removed"
This is a contradiction agentorange.
If someone goes nuts and abuses the system, which first/danny2/danny did back in March 08, then CP will remove that person. Even if I didn't complain on that Sunday when he was doing it along with at least three other people who complained via email, CP would have removed him anyway because they would have seen all the comments flagged. They know who flaggs what. What they don't know is 'why'.
You need to get the facts before you make the accusations that you make. Wrong information, lack of information will lead someone to the wrong conclusion. You do that quite often. Evolution is based on wrong assumptions and a lack of information. Evolution is nothing but a fairy tale full of magic.
Agentorange said "‘Magic’ is a profane word now?"
You know what I am talking about. I have had many dialogs with you. You have used profanity.
You are a L I A R to say that you haven't.
agentorange said :I choose not to offend you by saying Christ was a ‘stinking zombie corpse’ "
There was no need for you to even bring this up. Do I find it offensive? You bet I did. Was this a way for you to express your opinion of my Savior and the Savior of all mankind, Jesus Christ by concealing it in an example thinking that you could get away with it? I was offended by you even bringing it up. It is probably how you think anyway, isn't it agentorange?
Did I flag your first entry? Yes, I did because of the remark you made of my Lord and Savior. I am sick of it.
One day God bring you into account for all you have said and done.
I cannot understand why CP even restored your flagged message. But, they make the decisions, not me, even though you claim that I control them in that.
agentorangex- Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:48 pm
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“I don't flag too often”
If by too often you mean not always, then yes, but I find censorship generally a one-way street here. Others and I have changed our logins countless times when not being outright censored, can you say the same for you?
‘But there is a limit to my tolerance.”
So as soon as ‘magic’ is used, then it’s all over it seems. Well, how else is one to define ‘how god did it’ but by essentially invoking supernatural magic? Time to call a spade a spade folks. If it’s short on descriptive explanation and offers nothing on details on ‘how’ it was accomplished and the only recourse is to refer to scripture in which ‘god spoketh’ and the universe, galaxies, stars, and planets
I am not accusing you of flagging Howards posts or getting him removed, but I know you’ve done it in the past, so I draw the correlation there.
“Last night someone went crazy and flagged Howard's posts on many different articles”
Exactly what I mean, mostly a one-way street, but perhaps it’s revenge for something Howard flagged right?
“Sometimes you use profane words.”
‘Magic’ is a profane word now? I think others here can attest to my language usage and it’s not been anywhere near hate speech., especially not the type Danny and the aliases he’s had have used. Let’s be brutally honest star, I choose not to offend you by saying Christ was a ‘stinking zombie corpse’ and other ridicule as I know this is disrespectful, and still I am flagged…WHY?
Ok star, I don’t understand you. You’re a walking contradiction. I posted this earlier and you (or apparently you) flagged it….WHY? What is hate full about it at all? And STILL it’s flagged…WHY?
If by too often you mean not always, then yes, but I find censorship generally a one-way street here. Others and I have changed our logins countless times when not being outright censored, can you say the same for you?
‘But there is a limit to my tolerance.”
So as soon as ‘magic’ is used, then it’s all over it seems. Well, how else is one to define ‘how god did it’ but by essentially invoking supernatural magic? Time to call a spade a spade folks. If it’s short on descriptive explanation and offers nothing on details on ‘how’ it was accomplished and the only recourse is to refer to scripture in which ‘god spoketh’ and the universe, galaxies, stars, and planets
I am not accusing you of flagging Howards posts or getting him removed, but I know you’ve done it in the past, so I draw the correlation there.
“Last night someone went crazy and flagged Howard's posts on many different articles”
Exactly what I mean, mostly a one-way street, but perhaps it’s revenge for something Howard flagged right?
“Sometimes you use profane words.”
‘Magic’ is a profane word now? I think others here can attest to my language usage and it’s not been anywhere near hate speech., especially not the type Danny and the aliases he’s had have used. Let’s be brutally honest star, I choose not to offend you by saying Christ was a ‘stinking zombie corpse’ and other ridicule as I know this is disrespectful, and still I am flagged…WHY?
Ok star, I don’t understand you. You’re a walking contradiction. I posted this earlier and you (or apparently you) flagged it….WHY? What is hate full about it at all? And STILL it’s flagged…WHY?
agentorangex- Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:27 pm
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“I don't flag too often”
If by too often you mean not always, then yes, but I find censorship generally a one-way street here. I and others have changed our logins countless times when not being outright censored, can you say the same for you?
‘But there is a limit to my tolerance.”
So as soon as ‘magic’ is used, then it’s all over it seems. Well, how else is one to define ‘how god did it’ but by essentially invoking supernatural magic? I am not accusing you of flagging Howards posts or getting him removed, but I know you’ve done it in the past, so I draw the correlation there.
“Last night someone went crazy and flagged Howard's posts on many different articles”
Exactly what I mean, mostly a one-way street, but perhaps it’s revenege for something Howard flagged right?
“Sometimes you use profane words.”
‘Magic’ is a profane word now? I think others here can attest to my language usage and it’s not been anywhere near hate speech., especially not the type Danny and the aliases he’s had have used. Let’s be brutally honest star, I choose not to offend you by saying Christ was a ‘stinking zombie corpse’ and other ridicule as I know this is disrespectful despite how I disagree with it.
If by too often you mean not always, then yes, but I find censorship generally a one-way street here. I and others have changed our logins countless times when not being outright censored, can you say the same for you?
‘But there is a limit to my tolerance.”
So as soon as ‘magic’ is used, then it’s all over it seems. Well, how else is one to define ‘how god did it’ but by essentially invoking supernatural magic? I am not accusing you of flagging Howards posts or getting him removed, but I know you’ve done it in the past, so I draw the correlation there.
“Last night someone went crazy and flagged Howard's posts on many different articles”
Exactly what I mean, mostly a one-way street, but perhaps it’s revenege for something Howard flagged right?
“Sometimes you use profane words.”
‘Magic’ is a profane word now? I think others here can attest to my language usage and it’s not been anywhere near hate speech., especially not the type Danny and the aliases he’s had have used. Let’s be brutally honest star, I choose not to offend you by saying Christ was a ‘stinking zombie corpse’ and other ridicule as I know this is disrespectful despite how I disagree with it.
GeorgeX- Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:21 pm
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It's not reasonable to expect a non-Christian to respect Christian ideas.
star2- Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:13 pm
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agentorange
Re:contacting CP and having Howards account banned which she's also done in the past.
This is foolish. I don't own or run CP. They make their own decisions on who they bar and for what reason(s).
Re:contacting CP and having Howards account banned which she's also done in the past.
This is foolish. I don't own or run CP. They make their own decisions on who they bar and for what reason(s).
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