So when I first heard that Harrison Ford was coming back for a fourth serving of the Indy series, my first thought was
Huh?
No disrespect here, but Ford is old enough to play his characters father - which is fine if were talking about a time travel movie or something but this series is about action and adventure - right?
So I assumed the movie would be called Indiana Jones and the Greeters at Wal-Mart or something to that effect.
Watch as Indy and his sidekick Silo LeBeef discover the lost hearing aids of aisle 51!, Be shocked and awed as full contact checker games unfold before your very eyes!
But ya know what? I believe this movie is going to be all right after all. If anyone could pull off being a geriatric super hero, its Harrison Ford for sure. So yes - I think youll enjoy Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
Ah yes...the Crystal Skull (semi-spoiler to follow!). The cryptic and creepy remains of an ancient alien dude. He (or she) who returns them to the City of Gold will wield supreme power over life, the universe, and everything (end semi-spoiler)!
So do you believe in aliens? Are there really races of creatures cruising around the friendly skies kidnapping cattle for farm aceutical purposes?
Well, Im not sure - and frankly, Im not sure I care either. But do you know who does care to know? The answer to this might surprise you - but in my experience, the group of folks who need aliens in their worldview are atheists.
Again Huh?
Well you see, there is a very important question in this world that is not only a question, but one of the big questions:
How did life begin?
As one very smart person put it: questions that dont get answered properly dont tend to go away. And this question has had some very poor answers in recent years.
What poor answers? Here are two biggies:
-Life has no beginning.
-Life was started when a bolt o lighting struck the chunky gooey primordial soup and PRESTO! We got us a livin organism!
Uh, no and no. Time doesnt allow us to fully evolve the reasons as to why those are poor answers - but do a little research outside of the atheists-r-us dominated sources, and you might be surprised.
So when those two answers dont cut the mustard, naturally you must select another as the fittest option. Option one would be, you know, God or something - but as it turns out, thats not a great one if one wishes to maintain a non-God belief system.
Option two is (cue the suspenseful music) none other than an alien race who seeded life on this planet some 128 gazillion years ago (give or take a few leap years added in).
No, I am most certainly not making this up. Go see (or rent in the future) the movie Expelled - No Intelligence Allowed - and at the end youll witness Richard Dawkins - author of The God Delusion (hint - this classifies him as an atheist) - essentially take seriously the alien theory as an explanation of where life came from.
And this is sort of the common logical descent that happens when the origin of life question is raised and God is put down.
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I don't know of too many atheists who think "alien seeding" is sufficient to explain life. It has the same problem God has. What created the creator?
Please be assured I would not scoff I think you are quite correct for the assertion you make concerning some peoples beliefs (or lack of them for that point).
But as with Blaises comment , life has taught me that it is very incorrect to tar all people with the same brush. Have you considered that if I or others (I can't be the only one) differ from you it is not because we ignore the evidence before our eyes but that we come to a different conlcusion to you? How do you know I once did not hold to what you do, can people change views, Is that allowed for in your universe? Is It possible that others do not see what you do because it is not there (and of course the same applies to me).
Thank you for asking the question concerning Nietzsche, it does not apply to me, he may have admitted it but I am not him (remember, don't tar with the same brush) , how could you have confused us, I have never hugged a horse in the market place :-)
Kind regards
Steve
steveh20 -
<<Why is it that many don't see that then?>>
I'd respectfully assert it's because you don't want to. Real belief involves much more than mere intellectual assent - it's a matter of the will. Don't scoff - people act contrary to evidence all the time, in many different ways. Pascal said, People almost invariably arrive at their beliefs not on the basis of proof but on the basis of what they find attractive.
This is why Jesus asked his opponents, "Why are you reasoning about these things in your hearts." Not minds - hearts. That's where the human 'seat' of willpower is. Nietzsche once admitted, "It is our preference that rules against Christianity, not arguments". Does that describe you?
Mr. Palmer puts everything neatly in perspective when he compares the different ways people react to ideas of where life came from , using a logic ("head") versus emotion ("heart"): "Heart: Think about what feelings come from the belief that we are nothing more than a result of undirected mutation which originated from either a scummy pool that got electrified, or a seed from an alien race."
And there we have it: Mr. Palmer would have us follow our emotions, even though it is quite clear that reason and evidence are much more reliable that emotion when it comes to discovering what is true and what is false. Sorry, Mr. Palmer. There are many millions of us who will not throw away our greatest capacity as humans to indulge in comforting, infantile fantasies about magical, invisible friends.
And why do believers who question evolution seem so preoccupied that our ancestors were once algae? Yes, algae is not always aesthetically pleasing. Yes, "scum" is used to describe algae, and to serve as an nasty insult. But those who dislike the idea that we descended from one-celled plants like algae seem so hilariously disgusted by this notion as to appear mentally unbalanced. It's as if the conversation goes something like this:
"You are descended from a single-celled plant."
"How dare you call my granddaddy a single-celled plant! That idea is disgusting!"
People, please get a clue, and life, preferably in that order.
Why is it that many don't see that then?
steveh20 -
Not looking for a challenge at all. The point I was making is that you *can* know Who existed before our space/time paradigm came into being. For me, it's fascinating to see how someone can philosophically reason to a conclusion that perfectly matches the revelation of God given in the Bible. No shoe-horning or pushing a square peg into a round hole. General revelation = Special revelation. What a beautiful thing.
I for one can't challenge you because I have no idea of the state of what existed before Planck time, all I do know is that our ideas of spacetime break down completly so I can't even say if the moment of the big bang (hate that phrase as it was not an explosion) was the actual start of the particular universe we happen to inhabit and whether because of the breakdown of spacetime, cause and effect really have any meaning in that situation.
It is something I can live with.
Hope you find the challenger you desire.
Kind regards
Steve
First, Ill also pile on and say the writer of this articles style isnt to my liking either. As Christians, we all need to adhere to the with gentleness and respect part of 1 Peter 3:15.
As to the issue at hand, I dont see how positing an alien race for our existence is one that can be seriously clung to apart from God. Two big obstacles to me are the matter of causation and the impossibility of an infinite regress of causes. Instead, I would put forth the following lines of reason:
- Limited, finite, changing beings exist (us and other things)
- The present existence of these beings is caused by another
- There cannot be an infinite regress of causes of being
- Therefore, there is a First Cause of the present existence of these beings
- This First Cause must be infinite, necessary, eternal, simple, personal, and immutable
And it so happens that this First Cause matches up perfectly with the God of the Bible, and not an alien race. Positing an alien race merely pushes the question out a level and does nothing to answer the ultimate question of existence.
I have no doubt some will challenge my last premise above (the others are pretty self-evident I believe) and Im ready to answer the objections when you are
Dear Blue
Athesist or Christian or whatever matters not to me, your point is very well made.
Regards
Steve
I must say, I did not completely read your article on this topic. The first section was disrespectful, rude, and insulting. I did not see any charity or Holy Spirit leading in the writing of your comments about elder people. This is not a good example to the youth of our country; showing disrespectful comments about older generations and "Wal-Mart greeters" whom you have no idea if they are on a fixed income and survive on those checks, nor do you know anything about their life situations.
I fully understand that you were trying to be humorous, add light to your article, and entertain (as a writer myself, I understand that article writing must grab the audience) yet your comments have gone astray from the humorous here. In a country that is already disingenuous to elder generations, comments such as these only perpetuate the disrespectful attitude seniors must face every day.
So, as a gentle rebuke of your comments, please remember that REAL people are reading your articles and words are powerful, can be hurtful, and need to be lead by the Spirit. Especially on a Christian news website.
"Several thousand years ago, there was a group of very oppressed slaves who looked around for a sign of hope in their very cruel world. The biggest questions on their mind were:
Is there really a God, and did He really create all that we see around us?
You are sadly mistaken my friend... because there were also slaves not even 150 years ago who were oppressed by Christians. In fact, slave owners followed the same rhetoric and morale as authors such as "George Fitzhugh: Cannibals all! Or slaves without masters." They USED the bible to justify their slavery. Farther back, Kings and Queens in Europe ruled by Divine right; justified their society and the HUGE difference between the rich and poor using God.
So suddenly, because I remind you of that, questions arise: Am I an atheist? Am I a Christian? Am I, apparently from your writing style, stupid - probably annoying - uneducated, etc... because I believe that microscopic organisms may have been blasted to Earth by a huge collision between a planetesimal and Mars? I feel no need to tell you what I am, seeing that you write for the Christian post and will probably blast my proud background, but I will tell you this: To call the unconvinced (life has no beginning) and the scientifically excelled (life came from nothing, as did everything else) and their answers as "poor" is wrong. How is that different from your so called atheists calling your little book story, bible, a poor explanation; using simply words and 'trusting' your ancestors? You might feel the need to protest and defend the Bible's Genesis, but I would certainly never call it a poor explanation.