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Egyptian Court Grants Custody of Sons to Christian Mother

By Michael Larson|Compass Direct News

A Christian mother in Egypt has won custody of her twin sons from her estranged husband, who had converted to Islam and claimed them according to Islamic legal precepts.

The now 15-year-old boys, however, will still be considered Muslims despite their desire to remain Christian.

On June 15 the Egyptian Court of Cassation ruled that Kamilia Gaballah could retain custody of her sons Andrew and Mario, even though the father converted to Islam and the boys’ religion also changed as a result.

If the court does not allow them to return to Christianity, the family will open up another court case, said their older brother George Medhat Ramses.

“Up until now the court said they would have the right to choose their faith,” said Ramses, 21. “But if they don’t, we will start another trial. This is the only way.”

The decision overturns a September 2008 ruling by the Alexandria Appeals court that had granted custody of the twins to their father, Medhat Ramses Labib, due solely to his conversion. During this time Gaballah lived in constant fear police would take away her sons.

The ruling also affirmed Article 20 of Egypt’s Personal Status Law, which states children should remain with their mother regardless of religion until age 15, over that of the Hanefi School of Islamic jurisprudence, which says that a child must be granted custody to the Muslim father in an inter-religious marriage once he or she becomes 7.

But the Egyptian Initiative for Personal Rights (EIPR) advocacy group noted that while the court ruled a woman cannot be denied custody of her children solely on her Christian faith if her husband converts, children can still be removed from her home if there are “fears for the child’s faith.” An ex-husband or his family could easily exploit this clause, the human rights group said.

According to Gaballah, the trial was not a matter of custody rights but was religious in nature from beginning to end.

“My opponent is not only my divorcee; my opponent is everyone who hears this story and wants Andrew and Mario to become Muslims,” said Gaballah, according to Copts United advocacy group.

Mario and Andrew turned 15 in June. On their 16th birthday, they must apply for Egyptian identity cards, which factor heavily into Egyptian daily life. Barring another court battle, their religion will still be registered as Muslim.

Because of this predicament, the court verdict that granted the twins’ mother full custody only solved half of their problems, said Naguib Gobraiel, a lawyer familiar with the case.

As registered Muslims, they could face harassment while attempting to practice their Christian faith. And while they could marry Christian women, their future children would be registered as Muslims, following the Islamic dictum that children take the religion of their father.

“The court didn’t give them the right of freedom to choose their religion,” Gobraiel told Compass. “We must ask ourselves how the children are permitted to stay with their mother but must follow the religion of another man.”

Until then the family is worried that the court will not allow Andrew and Mario to return to their Christian faith and are taking every precaution. Last Wednesday (June 24) they appealed to the Ministry of Internal Affairs to have their birth certificates state their Christian faith. They had been recently changed to retroactively show the boys’ birth status as Islam. Continue >>

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  • Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:41 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    You must remember that Islams internal logic is that it and it alone in dominant. It must dominate or it has all kinds ofproblems. It is not just a belief system. It is a complete, social, political and economic system.
    In it all non-muslims are second class.

    It is also territorial.

    All property that comes under muslim control must stay there. it cannot become non-muslim. hence the problem over Israel. The Ottomans and local sheikhs sold most of the land comprising the 1949 State of Israel to the Jews against the wish of the mullahs.

    Most of it was swamp and useless. It was the Sabra who turned it into productive land one body at a time. to the jealous fury of the arabs. Hence there are physical, political and religious issues all intertwined.

    In Islam Children are the property of the father.
    hence the tension between a secular civil court and the Sharia court.

  • Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:26 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "The now 15-year-old boys, however, will still be considered Muslims despite their desire to remain Christian."
    Bizarre. When did "faith" cease being a matter of personal commitment and become a legal designation? Such is the nonsense when religion becomes a politcal concern and not a recognition of God's grace.

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