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Conservatives Urge Ban on 'Harry Potter' Over Witchcraft, Homosexuality

By Elena Garcia|Christian Post Reporter

The wildly popular Harry Potter books and their author, J.K. Rowling, have already been blasted by Christian conservatives for glamorizing witchcraft and the occult. The fantasy series is now charged with encouraging homosexuality following the author’s announcement that one of the novels’ main characters is gay.

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    The seven-book print set of Harry Potter books autographed by author J.K. Rowling are seen at the National Braille Press in Boston, Wednesday, Oct. 3, 2007. Rowling rarely signs books, and the copies being auctioned, as part of the nonprofit's annual fundraiser, by the Boston based press are the only known signed complete set in the U.S.

Roberta Combs, president of the 2.5 million strong Christian Coalition of America, said she was disappointed that Rowling chose to label Albus Dumbledore, the headmaster of fictional Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, as gay.

“It's not a good example for our children, who really like the books and the movies. I think it encourages homosexuality,” said Combs, who has called for a ban on the seven-book series.

“I would never allow my own children or grandchildren to read the books or watch the movies, and other parents should do so too,” she added, according to the U.K.-based Daily Mail newspaper.

Earlier this month at a book tour stop in New York City, Rowling was asked: "Did Dumbledore, who believed in the prevailing power of love, ever fall in love himself?"

In response, the British author said, "My truthful answer to you... I always thought of Dumbledore as gay."

"I know that it was a positive thing that I said it, for at least one person, because one man 'came out' at Carnegie Hall. I'm not kidding," she added afterwards.

Upon learning of the "outing" of the Hogwarts headmaster, many Christians who formerly had no qualms about children reading the books have reevaluted the books.

Tom Barrett, editor of Conservative Truth, reported in a column posted Monday on WEBCommentary that he has discovered hundreds of posts in chatrooms from parents and grandparents who had encouraged their kids to read the books but are now "finally starting to see the light."

"They have repented and have removed the books from their children's libraries," said Barrett. "They say they are trying to undo the damage they have done to the children by their exposure to them."

One website received over 3,000 postings in a day with many outcries from disappointed Christian fans, according to the Daily Mail.

"Not only has she destroyed a great hero, but she has tarnished the entire series," read one post.

Meanwhile, in a commentary posted on the website of the Christian Broadcasting Network, which has also called a ban on the Potter books, self-described cult expert Jack M. Roper reiterated past warnings from conservatives to parents over the impact that the disguised witchcraft contained in the novels may have on children.

"Over time the child can become adapted to the dark world of witchcraft and not even know that it is dangerous," he said.

"As a cult researcher for many years, I have seen contemporary witchcraft packaged in many seductive forms, and Harry Potter is the best," continued Roper.

"Potter makes spiritualism and witchcraft look wonderful."

While non-Christians may see the tales as "innocent fantasies," as Bennett noted, "Christians who understand God's condemnation of witchcraft, which is prominent throughout the Bible, should know better."

"Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows," the seventh and final of Rowling’s novels on the fictional Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, has been out since July 21 and has sold more than 350 million copies worldwide. It is currently on the best-sellers list of the Wall Street Journal and USA Today.

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  • Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:05 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    Rand503 sin is not a choice?

  • Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:34 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 4

    I just love how people are so afraid of someone 'promoting homosexuality.' If these people ever understand that it's NOT a choice, then they would realize you can promote homosexuality all you like, but you aren't going to convert someone.
    Unless, of course, they are so unsure of their own sexuality that the mere mention of homosexuality will make them kiss the next guy they see...

  • Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:44 am Agree: 5   Disagree: 3

    Yep, I believe witchcraft is a sin. Yep, I believe homosexuality is a sin. Do I believe witchcraft in Potter is the same as the sin of witchcraft in the bible? Nope. We would do well to define just exactly what the sin of witchcraft is (consult Vine's expository Dictionary). Namely, a deceiver and false prophet who uses charms, potions, and amulets to make their "patient" believe they get their powers from occult sources. They are false prophets who deceive the minds of men. That is the sin of biblical witchcraft, not some make believe story where kids blast bolts out of their wands. We KNOW this could not happen in real life; however, biblical witchcraft (deceit, false prophecy) most certainly could. I am against such witchcraft but not against Harry Potter's make believe sort. As for dumbledore being gay, if ithe whole story is this make believe concept than who cares if a fictional character is gay? It is the responsibility of the parents, not J.K. Rowling, to "bring their children up in the way they should go, so when they are old they shall not depart from it".

  • Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:34 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 2

    Funny how there is only a major attempt to censor this wonderful series when there is an opportunity to further historical prejudices and discrimination. Bravo to the religious right!

  • Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:30 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 7

    I dislike J.K. Rowling a lot..I was never considering reading her books and now that i hear this... that it promotes homosexuality, i NEVER will. I have heard her say things like "people who believe in god are weak," and other anti-Christian things. I think if children want to read this book, they can, but they have to remember not to believe any of it.

  • imho »
    Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:05 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    I wasn't going to comment, here, but this article seems to be hanging around, so... Why not? :)

    I noticed a tangent with Lot's daughters, and the comment was made that the sons from the incestuous unions were made patriarchs. Now, I'm not a scholar of the Torah, Bible or Quran, but my understanding of the term "patriarchs" in biblical context is that it refers to the fathers of the Israelites: Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Jacob's 12 sons, who became the heads of the 12 tribes of Judah, are also often referred to as patriarchs.

    As for the boys born to Lot's daughters - weren't they Moab and Ammon? I don't think the Moabites and Ammonites got on overly well with the Israelites... But, we do see something of God's gorgeous, redemptive grace in this story! The book of Ruth is about Ruth, a Moabitess, who chose to stay with the Hebrews rather than go back to her own people. Her heart was for God, and her reward was to be in the lineage of Jesus Christ! It is no surprise things came about that way, as the entire Bible points to Jesus, His redemption of the lost, and inclusion of the Gentiles.

  • Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:25 pm Agree: 13   Disagree: 5

    Ah, this is where things go wrong. Harry Potter is a FANTASY book geez. Also, Rowling makes her books free of religious or anti religious insinuations. In her world, magic is something neutral that can be used for both good and evil. The majority of the wizarding world use it for good. In her world, it has nothing to do with Satan, or evil origins. Kids will not go out and be witches or wizards because they read these books. Let's face it, no one really believes in that stuff anymore except weirdo new agers. Next, if you feel you have to explain to your children about the magical world of harry potter, by all means, let them know it's fiction *as if a kid can't already tell that). About the homosexuality part: In the real world, there ARE GAY PEOPLE. That is something that people have to deal with. There is no reason that the wizarding world of HP should be somehow exempt from this. Also, by outing one of her characters, she's trying to break the chain of intolerance that most people have against them, and showing that just because you are homosexual, doesn't mean you can't be a good person, or a great figure and moral guide. Obviously, there is no mention of him being gay in the books, and it was only brought up when asked. It's not like Dumbledore now has a sick streak where he ogles harry from a distance. These books are about overcoming everyday problems young people encounter, teaches bravery, honesty, self sacrifice,friendship, and love. These are wonderful books for children, Christian or no.

  • Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:55 am Agree: 4   Disagree: 2

    It is widely known that Mohammad plagiarized from the Old Testament, New Testament, and many other ancient texts when coming up with Islam. So seeing something that resembles something in either is not surprising. All he did was change some of the wording around.

  • Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:43 pm Agree: 5   Disagree: 7

    Pete: The story of Lot is actually a great story to teach our children the dangers of getting drunk, and what happens when generational sin infects a family. Lot's daughters actually got their father drunk (and they thought to take things in their own hands) to preserve their family. This is another story to teach how when we take things into our hands and don't let GOD handle things.
    The Bible is the Truth of God; it is foolishness to those who are perishing but it is the power of God for those who believe. The Bible is God's love letter to His creation; it is the most misunderstood book in all the world, because it is a SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED book; and unless one has The Holy Spirit you will not discern the Word correctly.
    In my own past I had read the Bible and I believed that it was in error, but I was wrong; my understanding was what was in error.
    Now, people can believe whatever they want to, but I will step forward as God gives me the nudge to do so and speak when He tells me to speak.
    His WORD unlike man's is trustworthy and thanks be to God He has blessed me to have a better understanding of His Word. His Word is truth, today man wants anything but the truth. Man likes to be in rebellion, be lord in his own life, well that's their own choice.
    If you choose to stick with a dead and dying world, that's your choice, I choose to cross over to the new and eternal World of God! and Glory to God for providing man a way out of his own mess. Thank you Father God! Open your eyes and your heart to really hear what The Spirit of God is saying in our time!!!
    I'm praying for you Pete and others who disbelieve God. One day we will all stand before Him, and then I wanna see folks tell Him to His face that He is not really there. Just because folks say there is no God, doesn't make that a fact.
    I look at the evidence of His presence, the creation around me, the early morning sunrise, the starry heavens, each star a miracle of its own, my own life, dark and destructive and HE brings me into the Kingdom of light and love, so excuse me if I choose to glorify Him, rather than man. For HIS Glory and By His Grace, Annie

  • Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:26 am Agree: 7   Disagree: 5

    Gee dgnymn, I wonder if you teach your children the story of Lot. No, I mean the WHOLE story. You know, the part where he offers his daughters to the sodomites for their pleasure, then impregnates both of them after his wife is turned into a deer lick.

    Compared to the Potter characters, the "heroes" in the your bible are some of the worst villains in all of fiction. Good thing they ARE fiction, I would hate to have to claim some of them as ancestors.


    HampsteadPete, please read Genesis before posting something like this again, geez you can't get it anymore wrong then you already did...

    And as for MY heroes of the Bible, they are just that, I am not sure what spin you put on them but hey if you haven't read the bible why would you think they were heroes, good day...

  • Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:36 pm Agree: 6   Disagree: 9

    dgnymn: I am a child of God too; but I wasn't always one. I used to walk in the world of occult and horroscopes, etc. I didn't always know the Lord, I knew things about Him. You know what changed my heart about Jesus, it was those Christians who shared their story with me, who showed me the love of God. It wasn't those who judged me and condemned me.
    We as children of God have to be very careful of what we approve of, both for ourselves and our families.
    We are to be teaching our children the ways of God; not the ways of this world, in this I agree with you! However, Jesus when He prayed for us in John 17; said, "not that I take them out of the world, but that you protect them from the evil one," and He does protect us from the evil one. The world outside of the body of Christ is under God's judgement; within the body of Christ that is our's. His Word's again.
    It does us no good to get into debates with non-Christians concerning God's Word. He tells us not to get into these very activities as they profit nothing.
    However if someone asks us for the HOPE that we have, we tell them, that it is Jesus Christ. The Word of God speaks for itself, people misquote it, they do not interpret it in light of The Holy Spirit, so they do not spiritually discern HIS Word! WE judge within the body of Christ, but not outside of it.
    As for Harry Potter, The Wizard of OZ, many of these stories, and other children's so called fables, are not healthy for our children.
    We live in a time of ever-increasing wickedness as our Bible tells us; and this too is a sign of the Lord's return.
    For all those who are unbeliever's my prayer is that one day the Lord will open the eyes of your heart to really want to know Him, to really want to know His love, peace and grace.
    It is sad that folks will be quick to believe the fables, but consider God's Word, a message of love to be fiction. Well, the Lord tells us that one day the whole world will see Him, and that day is not too far away!
    Prepare Ye the way of the LORD! "Behold HE comes!
    Brethren, Keep your eyes on our Lord Jesus Christ, and not the things of this earth. Hold loosely to these things, this is all temporal, HE is eternal. The KING Of Heaven is on His way, coming for HIS children! HalleluYAH! In His love and grace, Annie

  • Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:59 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    By the way, thanks for making your site a spam magnet. I registered only a few hours ago using an exclusive email address and I've already had more than a dozen spam messages in an email account that had not received more than a handful of spam emails in more than three years.

  • Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:56 am Agree: 17   Disagree: 6

    Regardless of how Rowlings PERCEIVED Dumbledore, there's not the slightest, vaguest hint of homosexuality in the Harry Potter books. Hogwarts is only a FICTIONAL setting, but the VALUES in the books are those of goodness, friendship, loyalty and sacrifice for the greater good. That the books do not EXPLICITLY reference God or Satan does not mean that they are immoral anti-religious works.

    I presume that you folks are just as diligent about making sure your children never read Aesop's Fables or Grimm's Fairy Tales, Greek or Roman mythology, and I'm sure you diligently protect them from all those Disney films where magic abounds. I'm sure it's difficult for you to live in the modern world where the mentally ill are not deemed as possessed, and lepers are not spiritually unclean, and adulterers aren't stoned to death, and "witches" are not summarily executed, and the world no longer views a people as noble who rampage through the countryside in a military campaign of conquest where "we left no thing alive" or where very young girl children were given to the soldiers as spoils of war.

    So by all means, boycott the Harry Potter books, the Disney movies, and everything else that offends your 3500 year old religious beliefs and values. The rest of us will continue to read, think, ponder, and continue to grow in wisdom and understanding.

  • Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:39 am Agree: 8   Disagree: 4

    May I just state that I think the idea of banning these books from children that because of them have sought out other books to read because the Harry Potter series showed them how to use their imagination. In a world where there is so stress on using the power of thought and creativity to entertain oneself a book that can draw a child that would other wise be playing some mind numbing video game....Heavan forbid. As far as promoting the ideas of witchcraft and the occult if you are worried about your children being unable to distinguish between reality and a fictional story then you have more to worry about than what your children are reading. I would be more worried about how they will be able to function in an everyday world where they will have to make decisions for themselves. If you are worried that your children will be influenced by these stories then have a discussion with your children about what is reality and what is a story.
    As far as Rowling "outing" Dumbledore promoting Homosexuality and pushing it on the children. Homosexuality is not something that can be forced on someone. It is how you are born you can't help who you love and Dumbledore does nothing to do with your child and their sexual orientation.
    Those of you who sit on your high horse and talk about Harry Potter as though he is the definition of all that is wrong with this world let me ask you this...

    Are you capable of forming a thought by yourself or do you instead rely on those of your pastors and ministers and evangelists telling us to take these books away from our children because they might be influenced in a negative way? Would it not make more sense to have faith in our ability to teach our children fact from fiction and right from wrong? Raise up our religious heros as well as those fictional heros that show children that it is ok to be different and create worlds of make believe. Why must it always be so black and white when this is a topic with so many shades of gray.

  • Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:04 am Agree: 9   Disagree: 2

    Following up on GMP, let's spin out this idea of literary characters being considered gay. So is it safe to assume that any male character who does not demonstrate romantic interest in females or is involved in a relationship is to be considered gay? Other than the offhand remark by Rowling, there is no discernable overt indication of Dumbledore's sexuality, gay or straight. He for lack of a better description is either asexual or celibate. Certainly Christians would not infer that Jesus was gay based on the fact that he was never married to or sexually interested in a woman...

  • Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:58 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    Pavilion, maybe you might benefit from some time reading books like Harry Potter. It would certainly improve your writing skills. Let's look at how much assistance you need.

    "I didnt say homosexuality is the only way to aquire serious problems like AIDS and the devestation that goes with it. It isnt the only way. I had 2 dear friends who were under age 30 that died of AIDS. They both had homosexual partners. No other friends of mine have died of AIDS. The risk is alarmingly high."

    So is it your claim that although homosexuality is not the only way to catch these diseases it's the only way you've seen? Hate to break it to you but if you look at Africa there are tons of straight people dying from AIDS (which could be prevented by using condoms but I won't even get into that topic because it's so sinful to protect oneself from diseases). The risk is alarmingly high no matter who you are if you have unprotected sex.

    "The great think about America is our freedoms, given that God is clear in the old testament that sex was intended to be a covenent relationship between a man and a women."

    I don't even know what this is intended to mean. You probably meant the great thing about America is our freedoms, but then you trail off into some bible thumping babble which doesn't even make sense in the context. And if you want to really split hairs on the old testament the specific prohibition was on a man laying at the foot of another man as a woman. Woman on woman love is completely fine. But the fact of the matter is that the bible, as much as many of you would like it to be, is no LAW. You may internalize its teachings and attempt to live by them but in no way does that give you the right to push those beliefs on others. If you want to boycott, go ahead and do it. That's your right as a private citizen. But an outright ban? Get real.

  • gmp »
    Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:09 pm Agree: 24   Disagree: 9

    Enough already! There is no magic or whichcraft. Never has been, never will be. These terms were coined by the ignorant and fearful to explain what they didn't or didnt want to understand. Waving a wand or climbing on a broom doesn't work. Nor do potions, charms or spells. Even my 4 and 7 year old girls understand this. Unfortunately many adults, including those who wrote the bible never figured this out. Unfortunately, their ignorance plagues us to this day.

    The Potter books do promote the concept of good triumph over evil, and emphasize the importance of love, honor, loyalty and self-sacrifice. These are the greatest of human qualities, and it seems to me that truly "conservative christians" would embrace these themes. Yet, many obsess over the use of magic, which we all know doesn't exist, and is merely used to help create the elaborate backdrop of this wonderful fantasy. Also, No character action, written word, or inuendo to homosexuality appears anywhere in any of the books. Only a recent comment to a live audience by JK Rowling that she always pictured Dumbledore as gay. No one reading these books would otherwise have any clue that Dumbledore is gay. Sure, we never hear of any wife or love interest, but does that mean every character who is not married or overtly heterosexual gay? Please! Besides, homosexuality has been part of the human equation since the dawn of man, and will continue to exist as long as humans walk the earth. Get over it. Learn some tolerance. Intolerance to others is the true evil here.

    Finally, In our society, There is no more important skill than reading. Millions of children (and adults) now say I like to read because of these books. Their value in this regard is priceless. I consider the Harry Potter series to be among the greatest books ever written. Those of you on your pious soapbox who haven't read the books should give them a try. you just might be entertained, like millions of the rest of us.

  • Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:49 pm Agree: 11   Disagree: 11

    Gee dgnymn, I wonder if you teach your children the story of Lot. No, I mean the WHOLE story. You know, the part where he offers his daughters to the sodomites for their pleasure, then impregnates both of them after his wife is turned into a deer lick.

    Compared to the Potter characters, the "heroes" in the your bible are some of the worst villains in all of fiction. Good thing they ARE fiction, I would hate to have to claim some of them as ancestors.

  • Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:47 pm Agree: 5   Disagree: 10

    All this BACK AND FORTH of opinion!!! The point is this: What does God's Word say about about witchcraft, homosexuality, and the like. Then you measure J.K. Rowling against the Truth of the Scriptures and Voila - you get the message. The BEST line of defense now is BOYCOTT!!! Parents don't have to force their children to read this stuff just because the public indoctrination centers known as government schools say so!! We should say - What does God say? As parents, we are ultimately responsible for training up our children in the way they should go - in holiness and righteousness, according to God's word, not some government school where the mention of Christ is anathema!! It's even TIME FOR CHRISTIAN PARENTS TO PULL THEIR CHILDREN FROM THE GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS!!!

    One last thing - Debbie 1120 - "This is a BIG DEAL!!! Potter is definitely different than the Wizard of Oz and Star Wars. What good fighting evil? How about the little evil fighting the bad evil!!! Star Wars is no measure against the Truth of God's Word, and Dorothy...well, she's fiction...well, Potter...he's definitely fiction...and Star Wars....it's all make believe. We need to focus on the real heroes of the Scriptures. Read the Book of Hebrews, Chapter 11, for the REAL heroes of the faith, and those are the ones we want our children to model!!!

    J.K. Rowling...Well, Jesus said we'll know them by their fruit!!! That was not hypocrisy. We've seen the fruit of Rowling and it's not good!!!

  • Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:55 pm Agree: 8   Disagree: 4

    I agree with Baptistboy, unless you read the books, you don't know what you are talking about. I had a discussion about this topic with one of my friends, and Harry Potter is no different then say, The Wizard of Oz which is a classic and if your around my age, the popular movies at my time were, Star Wars. It's always a fight between good and bad. The bible even talks about that fight. Harry Potter is not a mandatory reading in the schools down here. They choose books like Catcher in the Rye, and Slaughterhouse five, but I guess those are ok. Let's not agree with a little fantasy book. I just think that everyone is making a fuss over nothing.
    Everyone should focus on the issues at hand and not on some character in a childrens book.

  • Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:37 pm Agree: 9   Disagree: 4

    2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

    “Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live” (Exodus 22:18). Even today, we are to put a witch to death. How? By simply not allowing their spirit, their practices, and there teachings to manifest life in our life unto Christ.

    We are to put away even the images of wizardry and witchcraft. “Moreover the workers with familiar spirits, and the wizards, and the images, and the idols, and all the abominations that were spied in the land of Judah and in Jerusalem, did Josiah put away, that he might perform the words of the law which were written in the book that Hilkiah the priest found in the house of the Lord” (2 Kings 23:24).

    Let the sword of the Spirit put such things to death:

    1 Thessalonians 5:22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.

    Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

    Philippians 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

    Acts 19:19 Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all men: and they counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver.

    If there were any, I suppose all the entertaining occult stories ended around that fire also; as they embraced the light of the world, Jesus Christ.

  • RBB »
    Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:09 pm Agree: 5   Disagree: 4

    torus - I couldn't care less what the majority of mankind, whether English speaking or not think about anything. The one and only thing that matters to me is what God thinks about it. Mainstream America has done anything but "grow up", they have become children that only think of themselves, and where their next pleasure is coming from.

    I'm sure that Rowling would have made money without concealing Dumbledore's homosexuality until after parents could do anything about it. She just made more from all the Christian parents who ignored the witchcraft, and got blindsided by how far the evil would go.

  • Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:44 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 3

    BaptistBoy
    I believe you were directing your last comments to me. OF COURSE they read it! How do you review something without reading it. For anybody that's actually interested in the Biblical opposition to Potter, Focus on the Family is an excellent place to start. They have CDs from past guests, explaining in minute detail all the dangerous messages behind the Potter books, why they're not something any Christian should be reading, especially our children. Anyway, I'm done with this issue. I know what God says, I know what the majority Church voice says, and I know what book we'll be reading from in heaven. Better in this day and age for our children to read things that will feed their soul, not darken it. Thanks for the feedback, folks. I love a good debate.

  • Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:01 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 1

    Only the government can "ban" a book by outlawing its distribution. However, Christians can boycott a book by refusing to buy the book.

  • Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:36 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 2

    The fact the Dumbledore is gay has no relation to the story. Seeing that he dies in the sixth book his sexual orientation has nothing to the series. The fact taht the book deals with witchcraft and fantasy is no different than the Chronicles of Narnia wwhich has the same but is considered christian reading for children. Fantasy is a way to teach imagination as well as values and I think that the Harry Potter series deals with right and wrong in a very appealing way. As quoted y Dumbledore " you must choose between what is right and what is easy".

  • Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:33 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 2

    to:i-am-a-jew.... I didnt say homosexuality is the only way to aquire serious problemsl ike AIDS and the devestation that goes with it. It isnt the only way. I had 2 dear friends who were under age 30 that died of AIDS. They both had homosexual partners. No other friends of mine have died of AIDS. The risk is alarmingly high. The great think about America is our freedoms, given that God is clear in the old testament that sex was intended to be a covenent relationship between a man and a women.

  • Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:18 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 3

    tray76, then let's hear about one of your beloved leaders who've actually read the books. dissecting them without reading them is an exercise in futility and a true waste of time. it's also hypocricy, something Jesus hated, btw.

  • Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:19 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    chica - what public schools are you talking about? where? I've never heard of that. Public schools are going to mandate reading the Bible unless it is a religion class. Harry Potter is no more or less harmful than say Beowulf or Chaucer's Canterbury Tales.

    What would you suggest? The Left Behind series? Now, that is book series not based in Biblical reality at all.

  • Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:03 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 1

    I beg to differ. Potter is mandatory reading in Public School literature class, and I've known many Christian parents who had to call the school and insist on an alternative book for the required project. I bet they wouldn't be allowed to do a book project on the Holy Bible or its characters.

  • Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:38 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 1

    No one is making the Potter books mandatory reading. They are simply as BaptistBoy described them. Read them or not - it's your call and a decision based on where you are at. There's nothing wrong with that.

  • Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:34 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 4

    tray76
    Are your negative feelings grounded in the Word of God? It doesn't get more real than that. What do your feelings have to do with obeying God? He's already made it very clear how He feels on certain issues, and according to John's gospel and epistles, those that truly love Him do what He says. And that's HIS protective love for US.
    Tuprbabe
    I don't need to read that garbage because I listen to the more public Christian leaders of our day who have made it their business to disect these books for the sake of Christian families. Try Proverbs Chapters 11 & 15 where it speaks of safety being in the multitude of counsellors.

  • Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:22 pm Agree: 5   Disagree: 2

    only someone who hasn't read the potter books could have a problem with them. these are classic struggles of good vs. evil within a fantasy context, and it's clear who is who. harry and his friends are clearly on the side of good. no one except for the dark lord and his followers are invoking evil. you can call it God vs. Devil if it makes you feel any better, but it's not. these books are about the struggles we all face in life "between doing what is right and doing what is easy." these kids struggle, bond together, and do the right thing in the face of seemingly impossible circumstances. that is only a good thing. anything read into it about God or the Devil beyond that is your own fantasy...it's not there.

  • Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:55 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    Also, perversion means ungoverned or uncontrolled (lust) and distortion. So that gives some more food for thought.

  • Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:51 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 1

    Tuprbabe and Yes _I _am_ a _Jew,

    Great Comments. I hope that those who have not read the books will do so soon. A lot of the complaining about Harry Potter is due to false pre-suppositions. I would ask that each person read with a critical mind but also with an intellectually honest one. I admit at first I was against this book series just because of the initial controversy. However, after reading them for myself I found that a lot of my negative feelings were not grounded with reality.

  • Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:50 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 3

    Truth always makes itself known eventually. Rowling has evidently 'overplayed her hand' allowing the true nature of her books to be seen. I am glad that many parents are finally getting it. How bad does it have to get before we wake up? It's like the story about the Emperor's New Clothes (Google it.) It doesn't take a lot of people to say "Enough already!"

  • Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:29 pm Agree: 9   Disagree: 3

    Simply amazing. How is it that the sexuality of a character, which is never mentioned or alluded to within an entire series, can lead to such a virulent response? If he were promoting homosexuality I could understand the more (in)sensitive among you being perturbed; however, is it simply the fact that he's presented as a likable and decent character who might happen to be gay that offends your christian sensibilities?

    Roper for lack of a better word is a complete schmuck. A self-described cult expert? Those are some impressive credentials. Really. Perhaps I was raised in a different group and culture but it's a hard sell to me that by reading these fictional books that children are actually becoming seduced into the world of witchcraft and spiritualism. It's not an issue of christian vs. non-christian. It's an issue of rational and intelligent vs. irrational and dimwitted. Children may run around and pretend that they have magical powers, but thats just what it is, PRETENDING. I might add that exercising one's imagination is a pivotal part of mental development and assists in a child's ability to discern fantasy from reality. But getting back to the issue, is it really the case that children are becoming self-styled gay wizards and witches from reading these books? I'll concede that by reading these books children will refine their ability to discern patterns of letters into coherent words, which to some might seem like magic. Nonetheless, this is merely the act of reading. Nothing more, nothing less.

    And in response to pavilion, many of the things you mentiond such as AIDS and orphans and drug problems are not exclusive to homosexuals, not by a long shot. As such your argument is erroneous and absent more specific details that pertain to homosexuals void.

  • Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:24 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 4

    Oh, and one other thing ... Daniel would have had to read and learn the occult teachings of the Babylonians as "the ruler over the whole province of Babylon, and chief of the governors over all the wise men of Babylon," yet he never waivered in his walk with God.

    Reading a fictional children's book will not destroy your faith unless you want it to be destroyed. "Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it." (Proverbs 22:6)

  • Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:20 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    The way the article was written indicated the comment was thrown out based on a casual question from the audience. Reading the books (unless it becomes apparent in either book 6 or 7), there's nothing to indicate that.

  • Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:19 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 2

    Well, I'm still letting my kids read the Harry Potter books, regardless. If you have actually READ the last book, you would know that Dumbledore's homosexuality is carefully concealed. In fact, it's not even noticeable. When I told my kids what J.K. Rowling said, they - who finished the book in just 3 days - responded with a collective "What? You're kidding! No way!"

    Apparently, the "promotion of homosexuality" has been lost on my kids.

    The Harry Potter books DO NOT "promote homosexuality," as extremists claim. (If you recall, the same charge was leveled in the 3rd book, regarding Professor Remus Lupin. But *SPOILER ALERT* he ends up marrying Tonks - a woman - and they have a child together.) Most of the people who decry the Harry Potter books have never read them, and are going by the opinions of others (who also haven't read them).

    The Bible says in Proverbs 18:13 - "If one gives an answer before he hears, it is his folly and shame." Shame on those who condemn these children's books without reading them ... when most (if not all) of them let their children watch and go to Disney movies filled with the same kind of magic and witchcraft in their plots!

  • Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:49 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Merkin - Oh, I guess I do mostly agree with what you are saying! :)

  • Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:44 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    i flagged it as inappropriate, cause i accidentally clicked "submit" before i finished typing. i don't know why you can't delete your own comments on this site...lame.

  • Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:42 am Agree: 4   Disagree: 4

    Your true colors are showing, my Christian brothers and sisters. Are you in competition with your Muslim cousins? Whose religion can best demonstrate bigotry and fascism? For the moment you're still in second place, but I'm not convinced you won't pull ahead.

  • Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:42 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Well said BaptistBoy. . . I just read what Merkin said - not sure I agree with it but don't know why it was flagged as inappropriate.

  • Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:57 am Agree: 6   Disagree: 6

    don't be so frothy and distracted by this frivolity. it's a smoke screen. the corporate rich have Christians running around burning up all their energy on gays and abortion while they take from the middle class and give to the super rich (themselves). people will not starve and go to hell because of a fictional wizard. but good people will suffer and go hungry in this very country while you pour all your energy into this. cancer, nuclear threats, global warming, and you're up in arms about a fictional gay wizard. good grief. you gotta focus on the things that matter, like taking care of each other and God's creation, or we really are doomed.

  • Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:47 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    Torus: I hope your facts are not true because if they are, most are lost and destined to spend eternity in hell.

  • Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:45 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    Torus, I just wanted you to know that God is a God of Love. He loves us and gives us laws to keep for our best life. He isnt the mean and judgmental. He loves us all enough to let us choose to follow his laws or not. Our culture is pumping homosexuality but what they choose not to pump is the the AIDS epidemic , orphaned children,mental crisses, broken familys, drug alchol abuse ect.. That all gets conveniently left out of the story---It doesnt sound like it feels good at all. Back to Gods law simple dont do it and you wont get it-- Hes a Good God.

  • Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:09 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    Torus,

    Homesexuality is not an issue of growing up for most Christians. As Christians we beleive that God gives us his instruction on how we are to live life in the Scripture. Scripture clearly states that homosexuality is clearly wrong (Romans 1). As far as being biological, there has not been any concrete proof for this claim scientifically. But even if there was such proof, the explanation could be explained by looking at world that has been effected by sin (including biological worlds). We must not allow our handicaps prevent us from pursuing obedience to Gods Word

  • Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:02 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 3

    RBB, you should understand that a majority of the population of the educated English-speaking world has come to the conclusion that homosexuality is not the sin your religion seems to think it is. Most of us have figured out it's biological and acceptable. Mainstream America (and England, for example) has grown up, to some degree.

    Whether you ever figure that out is not relevant but keep in mind that Rowling would have made her money even if she'd announced it during the first book. Most people would have said "So what, I hope the story's good!" and just kept reading.

  • Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:47 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    I have read all the books and have watched the movies that have been released. The news that Dumbledore is gay really has no effect on the story itself. His sexuality does not come into to play in the movies or books. The statement has been made after the readers have read the books and I would say 99.9% of the consumers would have never even thought such a thing. I think this is silly and boycot is really to late. The only way one would come to such a conclusion of the charachter is to read an article on what Rowling has said. Your kids will not get from reading the book any homosexual undertones or mix messages.

    The key to this matter as well as any matter is to supervise your childrens reading if you feel it is questionable and help them decifer what is good or bad. There are things as Christians we can use to teach our kids from Harry Potter such as sacrifice, the battle btw good and evil, Loving others more than yourselves, etc... The key is to find truth and expose the false hood and then your child will be able to devlope critical thinking skills that are necessary for living in our world. Also, if you think that the occult and the witchcraft is evil (let your conscious be your guide as well as scripture) then you must consider Narnia and Lord of the Rings as being under your boycot as well. Fantasy I believe is find when you keep it in the context of fantasy. It is when you try to make it a reality when you get in trouble.

  • Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:49 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Wow, after listening to Dinesh D'Souza, I thought Christianity was responsible for freedom of speech. Go figure.

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