Tucker Carlson claims Trump 'hostile to traditional Christianity,' believes in supernatural

Tucker Carlson speaks with Gen Z podcaster Jack Neel during an interview that aired June 24, 2026.
Tucker Carlson speaks with Gen Z podcaster Jack Neel during an interview that aired June 24, 2026. | Screenshot/YouTube/Jack Neel

Political commentator Tucker Carlson claimed in a Wednesday interview that President Donald Trump believes in the supernatural but maintains hostility toward Christianity, especially toward Christians who oppose abortion.

During a lengthy conversation with Gen Z podcaster Jack Neel, who asked him if Trump had ever asked to pray with him, Carlson said, "Absolutely not. Trump is hostile to traditional Christianity. Very."

Carlson also claimed that "Trump is mad about Christians for opposing abortion and mentions it a lot — a lot — in private. A lot. He's very annoyed by it, and opposition to abortion annoys him a lot. He's mentioned it to me, like, 30 times. I vehemently oppose abortion, just to be clear, because I think it's killing a child. Like, what are we doing?"

Carlson said he has refrained from arguing with Trump on the topic, noting, "Maybe I should have, but I didn't."

During his interview with Neel, Carlson also claimed that Trump, who has been open about the influence of the late Rev. Norman Vincent Peale on his worldview, believes in the supernatural power of words to affect reality. He said many world leaders "think they can speak reality into existence," and that words "have magic power."

"If you say it enough, it becomes true. Like, they definitely believe stuff like that, because it's true, by the way. And they're right. They're absolutely right. Those powers are real," he said.

He claimed Trump's habit of meandering "into a kind of labyrinth of other seemingly disconnected observations" when he speaks is a deliberate rhetorical technique intended to disorient his opponents.

"I do think that Trump — he would not describe it as a spell, but it's obvious to me, and I've experienced it a lot, that Trump uses a kind of communication in order to lull his audience into a defenseless stupor," Carlson said.

"And so, then the question becomes, like, does he know he's doing this? And the answer is, oh yeah. Because there's a way in which it's a spell. It's a spell. It's designed to disarm you, to make you less powerful and less able to resist," he said.

"Is that the same as a witch's spell over a smoking cauldron? No. But it's a first cousin of that. It's using words to change reality. It's an incantation," added Carlson, who has become increasingly outspoken about his beliefs regarding the supernatural since claiming he was physically attacked by a demon in his sleep during his final months at Fox News.

Echoing criticisms he has made previously, Carlson also questioned why some of the Christian spiritual advisers to the president have seen fit to endorse more war.

"I don't understand these Christian leaders, self-described Christian leaders, going in and endorsing violence. I just, I don't see any part of the New Testament that would justify that or inspire that. And it seems really clearly evil to me," he said, noting he's not a theologian.

Carlson went on to say that "Christian leaders should be very careful about lending their moral authority to political figures," warning the influence of political power can be spiritually corrupting.

"Their job is to change the political figure and make him more Christlike. It's not to become themselves more like a politician. And unfortunately, when religious leaders and powerful temporal leaders mix, it tends to corrupt the religious leader," he said.

"It doesn't have to be that way. I mean, you can imagine a world in which a spiritual adviser elevates a leader and gets him thinking about things that are really important: like God, and the humanity of people, and stuff like that. But mostly, it doesn't work that way at all. Like, Franklin Graham goes into the White House and it just degrades Franklin Graham, you know? It's sad," he added.

Carlson has been critical of Franklin Graham since the outbreak of the Iran war, alleging that the Samaritan's Purse CEO misapplied the book of Esther during an Easter luncheon at the White House to endorse the conflict.

Carlson also claimed Graham called him an antisemite in a private letter to Trump, which Trump later shared with Carlson. A spokesperson for the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association pushed back against Carlson's claims in March, telling The Christian Post that Graham did not accuse Carlson of being an antisemite, but rather commented that some of his views could be interpreted as antisemitic.

Carlson, once a staunch Trump supporter who campaigned for him during the 2024 presidential campaign, has broken with the president over the Iran conflict, which Carlson unsuccessfully lobbied against during a visit to the Oval Office days before it began. He also revealed during his interview with Neel that the two have not spoken since the outbreak of the war nearly four months ago.

Jon Brown is a reporter for The Christian Post. Send news tips to jon.brown@christianpost.com

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