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'Ex-Muslim' Pastor Naeem Fazal Refutes Claim That 'Muslim Spies Are Inside Every Church in America'

'Ex-Muslim' Pastor Naeem Fazal Refutes Claim That 'Muslim Spies Are Inside Every Church in America'

Jewish author Avi Lipkin speaks at the FUTURE Conference at Skyline Church in San Diego on June 15, 2015. | (Screengrab: SkylineChurch.org)

Fazal reasoned that although most Muslims are peaceful and are just looking to be a part of the American society rather than cause harm, the actions of a very small population of radicals who call themselves Muslims, have placed a bad reputation on the entire Muslim community.

"I hope Muslims could be more organized and figure out how to take back their religion because it's been taken over," Fazal said. "Most Muslims I know are not trying to create fear. They are afraid and they know that they are going to be profiled, and they know that they are going to be viewed as people who are not for the world. Islam, you have to understand, ... people have to understand that most Muslim wars have not been Islamic or have not been religious wars, they have been political wars for power."

Although only a small minority of the American Muslim population is actually radicalized, Lipkin told CP that he believes there is no such thing as a moderate Muslim and even if they do exist, they are not in a position to advocate for peaceful reform of the religion.

"My opinion, moderate Muslims are kind of like moderate Nazis. Have you ever heard of a moderate kamakazie from Japan? Have you heard of a moderate communist?" Lipkin asked. "The ideology is evil and the only solution for Muslims to get away from this is to convert to Christianity or Judaism, to renounce it. Muslims who renounce it get killed by their own community. They are not in a situation to stand up and protest against Jihad leaders."

Fazal's last assertion was that leaders need to stop playing into the fears of Christians by delivering fear-driven remarks just to sell believers on the idea of heaven.

"I feel a burden that Christians need to just stop the nonsense. Christian leaders need to stop speaking into fear and anxiety of people ... because that is manipulation," Fazal argued. "No one wants to call it that but that is really true — that's the reality of it. I think Christian leaders do it all the time. They either threaten people with hell or they sell them on heaven. It's just manipulation."

"I think, if there is anything, Christians and Christian leaders should understand that when you do and say things out of fear and anxiety, you are coming from the wrong place and you are wrong. It's not even the spirit of Jesus," he added. "It has nothing to do with Jesus. He is never motivated by fear."

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